Went from a Category 1 to Category 2 tractor. Now attachments won't fit

[ruffdog]

I agree. Take one of the stabilizers off and see why they won't extend more.

 

[LD1]

Aparently no body reads the posts before replying. Everyone keeps repeating about not an equal amount of threads showing.

It was addressed in post 11.

Only ONE side of that type of stabilizer is even threaded.

 

[LD1]

Thank you for the replies. Getting frustrated here as I seem to fix tools about as much time as using them!

Yes, not a bushings/pin issue. I can/have changed my implement's pins to cat 2. It's an issue with the minimum distance between the lower control arms (32" minimum). I'll have to see if TSC has pins that are long enough. A rake I want to use only goes to about 30 1/2".

I was also thinking about changing out the stabilizer bars to the pin type.

I do find that odd, since cat 2 specs are 32" for lowers. So its strange that 32" is at its max for narrowness.

Couple of options....

1. contact your dealer. Looks like some of those tractors had the more traditional pin-type stabilizer. See what the working range is on those and if you could swap.

2. Retrofit a generic pin type stabilizer that gives you the working dimensions you want.

3. Run with only one stabilizer. For a light category 1 flail mower (or any light cat 1 implements on that size tractor) I dont see being much of an issue.

While I havent measured....every category two tractor I have operated has had no issues going narrow enough for standard category 1 implements....which are typically only 26" pin spacing

 

[Bansil]

I know everyone says it's not threaded etc.

But that rod end/heim joint had to be installed; it is either threaded into the steel tube all the way, or it is inserted and pinned which means there is a pin that can be removed.

And I believe since they both have spin adjusters on the steel tube, I vote for them both being threaded one right hand and one left hand.

Only way to know is to remove the link and turn the inside one the opposite of the one extended

removing just the end that is extended will not allow the inside to turn because its already screwed in all the way.

I could be wrong, but they have the factory spin adjuster on it

 

[MossRoad]

There's what I think is the hole for a pin that's missing.
(click to enlarge)

 

[MossRoad]

Here's a picture from a 4710 for sale in the interweb...

You can see the clip installed.

 

[Brown Dog]

I would think the the tractor end has two adjustment holes for the pin.

 

[WranglerX]

Here's a picture from a 4710 for sale in the interweb...

You can see the clip installed.

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IF that is the case, the "PIN" is missing on both sides....

From MF 4710 parts book....

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[ruffdog]

I'm thinking the "pin" is just so the turnbuckle can't loosen after set.

 

[MossRoad]

I'm thinking the "pin" is just so the turnbuckle can't loosen after set.

Yes. but it kinda confirms there are no threads on that end of the arm.

 

[LD1]

The pin is loosened to allow the half that is threaded to spin.

The pin is re-installed. It does TWO things. First....yes it keeps it from spinning and changing the adjustment. But second....that is also how it is attached. Without that pin installed, the two halves of the stabilizer can simply come apart

 

[LouNY]

IF that is the case, the "PIN" is missing on both sides....

From MF 4710 parts book....

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The original poster has both pins removed and sitting on top of the PTO shield in his first photo.

 

[MossRoad]

The original poster has both pins removed and sitting on top of the PTO shield in his first photo.

Well there you go.

 

[sandman2234]

I went from a cat one to a cat 2 tractor and the first thing I did was tear up a bunch of implements! Didn't help that they were bought to fit a 13hp tractor and I bought a 70hp tractor to destroy them with! I should have sold them with the tractor!
David from jax

 

[WranglerX]

The original poster has both pins removed and sitting on top of the PTO shield in his first photo.

I noticed that in pic but it didn't "register", just going to walk away from this discussion....

 

[Brown Dog]

I noticed that in pic but it didn't "register", just going to walk away from this discussion....

It’s funny the OP has only posted twice on his own thread

 

[Bansil]

Great call on the diagram!
Still amazed that oem doesn't have more adjustments, and op could of made this just 1 page if he would of said he pulled the pins, I thought they were just pins for the attachment

 

[gstrom99]

I went from a cat one to a cat 2 tractor and the first thing I did was tear up a bunch of implements! Didn't help that they were bought to fit a 13hp tractor and I bought a 70hp tractor to destroy them with! I should have sold them with the tractor!
David from jax

I have the same issue. My green tractor is a cat 1 and my orange tractor is a cat 2. Being a cheapskate, I thought I could share implements with the two. Nope. Doesn't work well at all.

 

[JethroB]

I have the same issue. My green tractor is a cat 1 and my orange tractor is a cat 2. Being a cheapskate, I thought I could share implements with the two. Nope. Doesn't work well at all.

I went from a 47 HP Cat I to a 54 HP Cat II with no issues damaging implements. Don’t see how 7 add’l HP should make much difference other than the stoutness of the lower 3 pt arms. I do use adapters to reduce slop. Plus I‘m careful with my toys.

 

[JethroB]

The original poster has both pins removed and sitting on top of the PTO shield in his first photo.

Good catch! I also noticed the tractor end wasn’t crimped like the implement end for any threading.