What a Mess!

[Ken45101]

As I understand it, you should have tubes installed when they put the Rimguard in. I know the Rimguard dealer did that when I had it added to my Kubota M5040. I'm not sure how the M9540 was done.

 

[LouNY]

From Rimguards own web site;

Beet Juice does not require tubes in the tires. What if I already have tubes in my tires?

Beet Juice can be used with or without tubes equally effectively. The difference between the two lies solely in the repair cost of a minor puncture. Repairing a puncture in a tire with no tubes is very simple and cost effective. However, repairing a puncture in a tire with tubes is more involved and more expensive.

Can I use rubber valve stems with Beet Juice Ballast?

It is important when installing liquid tire ballast that you consult a tire professional to ensure that you have industry standard valve stems capable of handling air AND liquid. Many rubber valve stems are air only and therefore the adhesive holding the core in place is subject to dissolving. This can potentially lead to a catastrophic failure and loss of all liquid in the tire.

So nope tubes not required.

 

[RayIN]

Rimguard is a farce IMO. their website states it is the heaviest liquid ballast available @ 10.7# per gallon. It is also very expensive.
Compare that to Calcium Chloride/water weights @ 14.7# per gallon.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/agriculture-and-seafood/farm-management/structures-and-mechanization/200-series/210104-1_calcium-water_table_for_tractor_tires.pdf

If CC was so harmful to the environment, why does Canada endorse it's use.
Yes CC is corrosive, if the tube is punctured or valve stem leaks. My 1972 MF 135 rears were filled with CC at the dealers when dad bought the tractor. The rims finally rusted out in 2021.
I have filled every rear tractor with CC I've owned.
P.S. What will you do in 45 years if your rims rust away?

 

[grsthegreat]

Rimguard is a farce IMO. their website states it is the heaviest liquid ballast available @ 10.7# per gallon. It is also very expensive.
Compare that to Calcium Chloride/water weights @ 14.7# per gallon.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/agriculture-and-seafood/farm-management/structures-and-mechanization/200-series/210104-1_calcium-water_table_for_tractor_tires.pdf

If CC was so harmful to the environment, why does Canada endorse it's use.
Yes CC is corrosive, if the tube is punctured or valve stem leaks. My 1972 MF 135 rears were filled with CC at the dealers when dad bought the tractor. The rims finally rusted out in 2021.
I have filled every rear tractor with CC I've owned.

Water weight 8.3 pounds per gallon by itself, im not sure what ratio of CC to water is used to figure real weight. I had CC in my old JD870, and when the tire burst, it ruined the interior of my steel lean too overnight. Ill never have that crap in a tractor again.

 

[RayIN]

Water weight 8.3 pounds per gallon, not 10.7

Rimguard states their product weighs 10.7# per gallon.
You're right, not much different than water.

 

[MossRoad]

Rimguard is a farce IMO. their website states it is the heaviest liquid ballast available @ 10.7# per gallon. It is also very expensive.
Compare that to Calcium Chloride/water weights @ 14.7# per gallon.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/agriculture-and-seafood/farm-management/structures-and-mechanization/200-series/210104-1_calcium-water_table_for_tractor_tires.pdf

If CC was so harmful to the environment, why does Canada endorse it's use.
Yes CC is corrosive, if the tube is punctured or valve stem leaks. My 1972 MF 135 rears were filled with CC at the dealers when dad bought the tractor. The rims finally rusted out in 2021.
I have filled every rear tractor with CC I've owned.
P.S. What will you do in 45 years if your rims rust away?

CC weighs about the same as Rimguard when mixed to the same -35 temperature rating.

But yes, you can add a lot more CC than that to get up to the 14#/gallon range.

I had CC in my 70's IH2500b. It rotted the rims by the late 90s. I opted for new tubes and a removable cement counterweight on the 3pt instead of replacing the rims. The counterweight was removable and much more versatile than the filled rims in my situation.

 

[MossRoad]

Rimguard is a farce IMO. their website states it is the heaviest liquid ballast available @ 10.7# per gallon. It is also very expensive.
Compare that to Calcium Chloride/water weights @ 14.7# per gallon.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/agriculture-and-seafood/farm-management/structures-and-mechanization/200-series/210104-1_calcium-water_table_for_tractor_tires.pdf

If CC was so harmful to the environment, why does Canada endorse it's use.
Yes CC is corrosive, if the tube is punctured or valve stem leaks. My 1972 MF 135 rears were filled with CC at the dealers when dad bought the tractor. The rims finally rusted out in 2021.
I have filled every rear tractor with CC I've owned.
P.S. What will you do in 45 years if your rims rust away?

Something isn't right with that chart in your link.

It says 10 gallons of water weighs 100 pounds.

10 gallons of water weighs 83 pounds.



That chart is in imperial gallons.

 

[RayIN]

Something isn't right with that chart in your link.

It says 10 gallons of water weighs 100 pounds.

10 gallons of water weighs 83 pounds.

View attachment 2105516

That chart is in imperial gallons.

OK, Rimguard weighs 12.84 lbs. per imperial gallon; 10.7 lbs. per U.S.A. gallon.
That makes CC weighing 4 lb.s more than Rimguard according to the Canada chart.

 

[hayden]

Does anyone do CC filling anymore? All the places I know stopped using it years ago. Even if you wanted it, I don’t think any tires shops offer it. So you’d be mixing and filling yourself.

 

[not2old]

I don't know what was used to fill the rear tires on my GC2610 but the rims appear to be badly rusted and I've prepared myself to buy new rims when I need new tires. If I fill the new rims with used antifreeze as described above here, will that prevent them from rusting? I'm hopeing that the Kabota dealer has good prices on buying tires and rims together like when I bought new front ones which was cheaper than any tires alone that I could find.