What a Mess!

   / What a Mess! #31  
Does anyone do CC filling anymore? All the places I know stopped using it years ago. Even if you wanted it, I don’t think any tires shops offer it. So you’d be mixing and filling yourself.
Yep, every tractor tire shop I know of in Indiana will add whichever fluid is requested.
I don't know what was used to fill the rear tires on my GC2610 but the rims appear to be badly rusted and I've prepared myself to buy new rims when I need new tires. If I fill the new rims with used antifreeze as described above here, will that prevent them from rusting? I'm hopeing that the Kabota dealer has good prices on buying tires and rims together like when I bought new front ones which was cheaper than any tires alone that I could find.
Rims exposed to CC can be washed with a chemical the mobile trucks carry to neutralize CC.
The only reason your rims rusted was from a leak somewhere. Valve cores are the common source, CC requires a special valve core in the tube.
IMO filling a tubeless tire with CC is inviting corrosion.
 
   / What a Mess! #32  
Yep, every tractor tire shop I know of in Indiana will add whichever fluid is requested.

Rims exposed to CC can be washed with a chemical the mobile trucks carry to neutralize CC.
The only reason your rims rusted was from a leak somewhere. Valve cores are the common source, CC requires a special valve core in the tube.
IMO filling a tubeless tire with CC is inviting corrosion.
I had the rears loaded when new and don't know what was used and they are tubless. Yes there was a leak on both rears and the bead area on the outside has a large thicknesses of rust pealing off. I mostly just look at the tires to determine if they need air as I've ruined several tire gauges by using them on the loaded wheels. They are likely over pressurised but I don't care as it has already gotten me at least four extra years out of the tires. It's when I get new wheels and tires that I am concerned about.
 
   / What a Mess! #33  
I had the rears loaded when new and don't know what was used and they are tubless. Yes there was a leak on both rears and the bead area on the outside has a large thicknesses of rust pealing off. I mostly just look at the tires to determine if they need air as I've ruined several tire gauges by using them on the loaded wheels. They are likely over pressurised but I don't care as it has already gotten me at least four extra years out of the tires. It's when I get new wheels and tires that I am concerned about.
A special air gauge is made to use with CC-filled tires.
 
   / What a Mess! #34  
A special air gauge is made to use with CC-filled tires.
Any gauge used on fluid filled tires needs to be rinsed out after each use.
The tire should be rotated so the valve stem is at 12 o'clock on the rim,
then a short shot of air used to clean out the valve stem.
The pressure read and adjusted, then it doesn't matter what the fill fluid is.
The gauge needs to be be cleaned, the pencil type gauge can be held in running water and exercised by pulling and pushing the stem several times.
It doesn't matter what fluid is used it has the potential to screw up a tire gauge even plain water.
 
   / What a Mess! #35  
I was looking at my mine air valve and it twist. That's strange I never Sean that before.
 
   / What a Mess! #36  
If he plans to add ballast again, he should use metal stems.
If the dealer filled the tires, the dealer should be responsible for the
fix.
Metal or brass valve stems is the ONLY Ones to use.
Period.

The dealer shouldn’t be held responsible since they lasted 4-5yrs as stated.

@5030 @LouNY @ruffdog

WHAT do all you guys hate about liquid filled tires ???
:mad:

Now I totally agree with NOT using CORROSIVE calcium chloride OR Expensive beet juice (y)

Antifreeze mix, washer fluid or RV antifreeze is readily available anywhere & worth it’s weight in gold for traction, ride & versatility imo

You have to be capable of removing & installing a fluid filled tire assembly.

I hate & don’t have time to go hook up a weight box or an implement every time weight is needed.

You cant bolt on enough wheel weights to equal liquid filled tires.

I run all 4 tires completely filled with antifreeze / water AND 150-350lb of rear wheel weights.

The heavier the better.
 
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   / What a Mess! #37  
... The LS dealer refuses to accept any ownership of the issue.

Not being ugly at all but
You shouldn’t be angry with the dealer since you stated the tractor was 4-5yrs old.
 
   / What a Mess! #38  
Metal or brass valve stems is the ONLY Ones to use.
Period.

The dealer shouldn’t be held responsible since they lasted 4-5yrs as stated.

@5030 @LouNY @ruffdog

WHAT do all you guys hate about liquid filled tires ???
:mad:

Now I totally agree with NOT using CORROSIVE calcium chloride OR Expensive beet juice (y)

Antifreeze mix, washer fluid or RV antifreeze is readily available anywhere & worth it’s weight in gold for traction, ride & versatility imo

You have to be capable of removing & installing a fluid filled tire assembly.

I hate & don’t have time to go hook up a weight box or an implement every time weight is needed.

You cant bolt on enough wheel weights to equal liquid filled tires.

I run all 4 tires completely filled with antifreeze / water AND 150-350lb of rear wheel weights.

The heavier the better.
On the farm tractors and even mine at times we do a lot of road travel fluid filled tires take horsepower to turn the tires and get the fluid moving in the tire. Hauling a heavy load uphill liquid filled robs horsepower more then bolt on iron. When you do have a flat not if but when it is much easier and faster to either plug a tire and keep going or to break one bead and go in with a plug patch.
I very seldom need to drop the iron off my tractors but if desired I can do easily. On a rough field the liquid filled tire has a bit harsher ride. When stopping the liquid will rock the tractor back and forth. I haven't noticed that in my little tractor which does have filled tires but on the larger ones fluid slosh is felt.
My Branson has 1200 pounds of iron on her.
I have never filled front tires I see absolutely no reason too.
You mention ride improvement with liquid filled tires I have never seen an improvement.
Also the alternatives you mentioned will not be liquid at -20F, ice will destroy a tire.
 
   / What a Mess! #39  
Not being ugly at all but
You shouldn’t be angry with the dealer since you stated the tractor was 4-5yrs old.
The dealer used the wrong stems creating a premature failure. Barring any impact events to the stem, beet juice should have lasted double or triple the time the op had before failure.
The dealer should have made good on some level with his customer.
 
   / What a Mess! #40  
The dealer used the wrong stems creating a premature failure. Barring any impact events to the stem, beet juice should have lasted double or triple the time the op had before failure.
The dealer should have made good on some level with his customer.
LS installed the valve stems. Not the dealer.
Touchy situation I guess.
 

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