What makes Farmpro better than others?

[Woodbeef]

I keep running across lots of praise for the Farmpro line of tractors. What makes them so good? Afterall they are Jinmas are they not?

 

[frigman]

well---here,s my 2 cents--I,ve got 2425 farm pro (jimna 254) and it,s 2 years old. It,s not a fancy machine. It has a front loader (zl 20) and AG tires.I,ve scooped out ditches,pulled logs,pushed and pulled many many big honeysukle. I put a pole-hoist setup on the loader and set 6/6 beams and all the truses on two pole barns. It justs keeps on going. I have about 300 hours on and still starts and runs good. The best thing is ---the price----half the price of thetop machines and basically does the same job.

 

[greg_g]

I keep running across lots of praise for the Farmpro line of tractors. What makes them so good? Afterall they are Jinmas are they not?

Interesting, I've never run across a lot of praise for the FarmPro - or aren't you talking about the Homier line of FarmPro? Cuz Homier simply isn't set up for service-after-sale. Replacement parts by phone, yes. But fixing it for you? Uh-uh.

That said, there are some independent dealers that have recently picked up selected models from the FarmPro line. It's easier when one big outfit does the importing, then jobs off to resellers. The independents can give you limited availability AND (usually) service after sale.

Other than that, a Jinma is a Jinma is a Jinma - no matter what the decals say.

//greg//

 

[shvl73]

I think Farmpro also carries the Foton tractors as well as Jinmas.

 

[bluechip]

The big difference is the warranty. This has been good and bad. the good is that buyers get a real parts and labor limited warranty administered by Fail Safe. The bad is the tractors can be higher priced than at an independet dealer who imports his own inventory. Farm Pro does have an extensive parts inventory, but contact necessary to get those parts remains difficult, There has been quite a bit of turnover within the organization over the last year or so. They have not done the best job of selecting or qualifyind dealerships and have suffered as a result of sub standard dealers. If you have a good dealer with a good reputation to deal with, it will not matter a lot if it is Farm Pro or some other name on the hood as Greg said.

I will say that Farm Pro played a big part in the jump in quality that occured a few years back in the Jinma tractor. At that time they were importing something like 5000 to 7000 a year and they held up on a large order pending some comittment from the factory for quality improvements. I have not had a lot of assembly issues on the farm pro tractors we have handled.

Farm Pro has lost a lot of dealers over the last year or two which I attribute to the comptetitive nature of the business, (this is not an easy money business), pricing and to some extent, internal communications issues.

 

[thingy]

Boy,hate to agree with greg on anything,,but wasn,t aware of great uplifting and praising for farmpro,,,,,thingy

 

[Soundguy]

I keep running across lots of praise for the Farmpro line of tractors. What makes them so good? Afterall they are Jinmas are they not?

They may be one of the larger firms selling them.. but not sure about 'best'.

I'd look at northeren as another large sell.. that may have better service after sale.. etc.. at a loss of economy.. etc.

Soundguy

 

[greg_g]

They may be one of the larger firms selling them.. but not sure about 'best'.

I'd look at northeren as another large sell.. that may have better service after sale.. etc.. at a loss of economy.. etc.

Soundguy

Naw, same as Homier. They sell 2nd party warranty service. And just like Homier, complaints are rampant about getting parts over the phone.

These mass market types are all hype, suckering in the gullible. Independent dealers - ideally local - are the way to go.

//greg//

 

[Bob Rooks]

Independent dealers - ideally local - are the way to go.

Greg, I would take that one step further to include dealers that have a shop, know the difference between a shuttle clutch and hydrostatic transmission, and stock parts. I'm beginning to see "dealers" popping up in this neck of the woods operating out of their front yards and barns that don't even know what they're selling (I'm referring to whoever sold it to this guy). This one blew me away. To wit:

2003 Jinma Dozer 6 way blade steel tracks

 

[greg_g]

I would take that one step further to include dealers that have a shop, know the difference between a shuttle clutch and hydrostatic transmission, and stock parts.
This one blew me away. To wit: 2003 Jinma Dozer 6 way blade steel tracks

Whereas I had hoped that point would have been self-evident - especially since I was addressing service after sale - I guess I could have said full service dealer.

But I don't read that advert the same way as do you. What I see is a fella selling a used dozer, with a disclaimer that he doesn't want to be contacted for excavation work.

//greg//

 

[Bob Rooks]

I responded to his ad and informed him of the mistake. I even told him that Jinma doesn't make dozers, they make wheeled agricultural tractors only, and some implements and attachments.
He was adamant that the dozer was a Jinma because that's how it was listed on the bill of sale. He may have bought it from that guy in Puyallup, WA. I asked him who he bought it from.....didn't get a response.

Oh well........

 

[Gerifalte]

He may have bought it from that guy in Puyallup, WA

Out of curiosity, what's the problem with the guy in Puyallup? I have seen his adds on eBay, but that's it.

 

[greg_g]

Jinma doesn't make dozers

Ah, good point. Since JinMa means "golden horse ", I just assumed (incorrectly, I guess) that Golden Bull (dozers) was a Jinma name too. Now I see your point, thanks Bob.

//greg//

 

[Bob Rooks]

Out of curiosity, what's the problem with the guy in Puyallup? I have seen his adds on eBay, but that's it.

I have seen his ads also, and we shot a few emails back and forth. I guess you'd have to have been a fly on the wall. I allege he is one of the non-participating lurkers on these tractor websites (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Greg: I also told him all of the little dozers were made by Yuchai, and that he wouldn't find the Jinma name anywhere on the dozer itself. He wouldn't listen.

 

[Frankm]

Northen has the part , good supply, and they stand behind there Tractors, good service , when my tractor broke down they had it picked up , had it fixed and came back working great , i didnt have to pay a dime , bent PTO Shaft , bad HD Pump and valve , its been working great now , i now have 49 Hr on it . Frank From Near Erie Pa

 

[thingy]

I got 570 hours on my jinma 254 now,,never broke,,never failed to start,,its a nortrac,,but,,bet there are many farmpros out there who can say the same,,,[same tractor],,,question is,,,greg,,,any body got 500 hours on a kama??thingy

 

[bluechip]

I'm sure we have some getting close, but keep in mind the current KAMA models have only been sold in any quantity the last 4 years or so, the average use is less than 100 hours a year on most of these "compact" tractors. but I have ordered parts for many 10 and even 15 year old Taishan tractors previously sold under a variety of names, many of those well used by now so the durability of these tractors is well established. Of course Jinma does not make their own engines. KAMA does, but for US market sources their EPA complaint engines, many from the same places Jinma gets theirs.

500 hours is not really a lot when it comes to diesel engines...and of course it seems that a lot of the higher hour users don't have much time to post about it here.

 

[thingy]

Blue,,,yeah,,was thinking,,,1000 hours is like 50,000 miles on a car,,,,,,,you know,,give or take,,,,,,why don't those guys with over 500 hours brag about it blue?,,maybe cause they ain't none?,,I watch all the chinese boards,,,heard rumors,,but seems like I got about the most hours,,,,,now kamas,,,gregs been bragging on them for awhile now,,and cutting down jinmas,,,he maybe right,,but,,,so far,,the most hours I've heard of on a karma is 200 or so,,,,man,,I wouldn't brag if my jinma only had 200 hours and say it was better than a kama,,,,,course,,I ain't bragging now,,,just stating the facts and hopeing somebody will tell me they got 960 hours on their jinma,,,,thingy

 

[thingy]

Blue,,one more thing,,do you sell jinmas? ok,,now,,do you sell kamas,,you do! ****,,never would a figured it! let greg take care of greg,,,thingy

 

[Larryk]

Thingy Iput a 284 jinma crate Tractor in Feb 05. I did all flushing and tighting that could be done. I broke the tractor several times [minor] the tractor let me down Once. The bolts between the block and the bellhousing came loose i had to split the tractor and tighter them. Something i couldnot see when i put it together no parts just locktite and a honemade gasket. It Is a good tractor and i have no dsoubt it will last aaas long as i am on this earth as long as i do all nessary maintance . In the 25 Months i have used it [I didn't baby it] i have 820 hrs on it