What NOT TO do!!

[Gerifalte]

If you don't want to spend a lot of money on a Koyker you may want to consider selling your loader and getting the Jinma loader. I just saw them on eBay for about 2,100 + pretty reasonable shipping rates.

 

[JohnS]

While the ZL-20 is structurly superior to his loader, it sounds like he values very smooth hydraulics, (especially joystick model) in which case I would not recommended it. The Koyker has a number of other advantages over a ZL-20, too. Price might not be that much different for a Koyker 140 drop shipped. Worth checking, anyway.

 

[fishmasterdan]

Sorry about not keeping things updated here.

I have been without power for 4 days (snow storm).

I had to use the tractor to remove SEVERAL trees so I temp. fixed the tractor to use the loader. So I wont be getting any pictures of the recent damage. I just welded a piece of angel iron over the cheesy metal that was there.

I am still without power but I got a generator.

Anyway this recent storm WA got has got the internet off and on at unknow times. Will report back win thing are more stable.......

 

[vallyfarm]

I have never had one of these small tractors, but I did take the loader off my Case 211B (25 HP) and installed it on a 1600 Oliver (60 HP) and then proceeded to use EVERY BIT that the tractor could muster to pull stumps, dig rocks,and buldoze a large rock and heavy clay berm (undisturbed) at full throtle in 3rd gear. MAJOR,MAJOR abuse! Other than scraped paint, NO problems at all!!! If a loader frame folds up like that under ANY usage, it is built WRONG. A little Jinma should never be able to generate enough power to twist that loader frame. This is just my opinion, no facts were used.Mike

 

[SPIKER]

Vally not nessecarly true, the hydraulics and tractor weight CAN and DO bust up a lot of things.

I have my loader ( ZL-20 ) tweeked by gouging into and removing concrete blocks 24" x 18" x 42" deep. I dug them 1/2 out and then proceeded to shear off and or smash loost the tops and or remove them all depending if they broke away or came out... now THAT is some loader/tractor abuse. (I just recently paid for some of that abuse with a sheared off front axel. yep it twisted off the front wheel so try & not say that it was because the china tractors are junk. I'm sure I would have broken ANY tractor and most prior to this with the abuse it's taken...

anyhow the single cylinder does seem to be a poor design, I would add a 2nd cylinder & move them oputboard onto the lift arms not on the center brace...

mark M

 

[vallyfarm]

SPIKER - I in NO WAY meant anything about the tractor at all!!! I've never used one, nor known anybody that has. My point is that a sub-compact ANYTHING shouldn't be able to destroy a loader that was designed/built properly. My Oliver is almost 12,000 lbs. That has enough power/weight to mess up equipment quickly. A 25 hp. sub-com. does not have enough weight to put enough force onto a properly made loader to twist the loader frame up into a train wreck, and defenatley not if all that was done was to curl the bucket with a little foward motion! Those tires would just slip HOURS before that loader frame should tweek. Mike

 

[thingy]

These 25 h.p jinmas tractors ain't that big,,but they ain't no subcompact tractor,,they ain't no fluffed up riding mower,,course they ain't in same catagory as that case of course,just thought I'd throw that in for those who havn't seen one.
Second,where is he going to sell a broken up little loader,,might be able to give it away,,if he goes to the trouble of fixing it up,,might as well keep it.
Just goes to show you,,american or chinese,they all break,,thing of it is,,that steel may have come from china,,,and the chinese loaders might be from an american design.
I always did think that you would be asking for trouble in one way or other by getting a loader on one of these littler tractors,I ain't got one,didn't want one for that reason on my 254.,,If its on there,you are going to use it for things other than lifting a few hundred lbs of loose dirt or snow,,which is about all they are suited for...thingy

 

[Soundguy]

Unfortunately.. I have to agree with 'thingy' A 25hp tractor is probably not a SCUT.. but rather a full CUT.

Still... Just about any tractor// scut or not.. can probably tear up most implements sized for it.. if you operate the tractor/implement incorrectly... Nothing that is ground engaging is bulletproof...

Soundguy

SPIKER - I in NO WAY meant anything about the tractor at all!!! I've never used one, nor known anybody that has. My point is that a sub-compact ANYTHING shouldn't be able to destroy a loader that was designed/built properly. My Oliver is almost 12,000 lbs. That has enough power/weight to mess up equipment quickly. A 25 hp. sub-com. does not have enough weight to put enough force onto a properly made loader to twist the loader frame up into a train wreck, and defenatley not if all that was done was to curl the bucket with a little foward motion! Those tires would just slip HOURS before that loader frame should tweek. Mike

 

[thingy]

Soundman,so glad a guy with all your tractor knowledge agreeed with little ole me,[sleep better now].
It ain't the h.p. of the tractor [to my way of thinking] that makes it a sub,small,or whatever,,,,its the size and weight,,,my sears riding mower is 25 h.p,,,,what I'm getting at is a jinma 25 h.p. is a big tractor compared to those little bx kabotos or whatever they are called,,,,mine uses a 5 ft hog,,a 5 ft tiller,,a 6 ft heavy duty blade,,,,
you got your great big tractors,,your big tractors,,your average size tractors,,your small tractors,,and than you got them subcompacts or whatever they are called,,suped up riding mowers is what I call them,,,the jinma 254 is a small tractor,,,thingy

 

[Soundguy]

I usually judge by physical size.. not specifically weight or hp.. generally though.. all 3 go hand in hand. .. However.. the small frame of the bx kicks it into SCUT category.. even if it's hp is a bit higher than some other SCUT's.

Soundguy