What was Kubota thinking?

[Sully2]

Almost all do, the ones that I know do not are Kubotas with HST, at least not in an easily useable way. That was the key phrase in my post. You can split the pedals sure, but you have to ride side saddle to use them independently.

I got lost somewhere along the line..?? Either that or your legs are attached differently than mine?? I can sit in the seat and hit either / both with equal ease.

I HAVE a Kubota WITH HST...and twin brake pedals that I can hit EITHER or BOTH with equal ease..?? I choose to NOT use them independantly for more than one reason. ( main one is that I dont have any need to do so)..

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[_RaT_]

I got lost somewhere along the line..?? Either that or your legs are attached differently than mine?? I can sit in the seat and hit either / both with equal ease.

I HAVE a Kubota WITH HST...and twin brake pedals that I can hit EITHER or BOTH with equal ease..?? I choose to NOT use them independantly for more than one reason. ( main one is that I dont have any need to do so)..

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But how do you hit them with your right foot on the HST pedal going forward? After all, I think what we are talking about is steering with them. I have yet to really have a need to ever brake to stop with just the left or just the right.

 

[Sully2]

But how do you hit them with your right foot on the HST pedal going forward? After all, I think what we are talking about is steering with them. I have yet to really have a need to ever brake to stop with just the left or just the right.

OHHHHH...*duhhhhh*... Ya CANT! THATS where I "got lost"...

 

[RobertN]

If I DONT have independant rear wheel braking..??...then why do I have TWO brake pedals? ( which "I" always keep locked together anyway)

I think a lot of that is left over from same model gear tractors. When my B8200 was made('84-87), you could get it 2wd or 4wd, gear or HST. I have sat on the gear version tractor; it would be easy to use the brakes seperately. It was probably cheaper and easier to just build one brake system for both versions of tractors.

 

[_RaT_]

I think a lot of that is left over from same model gear tractors. When my B8200 was made('84-87), you could get it 2wd or 4wd, gear or HST. I have sat on the gear version tractor; it would be easy to use the brakes seperately. It was probably cheaper and easier to just build one brake system for both versions of tractors.

Probably so Robert. With HST you can use independent braking in cruise control very easily. I have done it if for no other reason then to report here that it is quite easy to do. Since on the north side of the American River we get virtually no snow compared to those on the south side who get 1.2859 inches a year, I have no reason to use independent braking.

 

[mikeyd]

I'm a little confused as well. Seems the "float" would keep the wheels on the ground, although I concede that they still don't do a darn thing unless you actually lift the FEL off the ground (out of float). Had plenty of practice with that. Don't see any point to driving around with the front end propped up in the air.



Am I missing something? Does any SCUT comes with independent braking of the rear wheels? I honestly don't know, but also don't recall seeing this feature on the Deere 2305 or smallest NH Boomer, the two major competitors to the BX line as I see it.

I have a 5030 with curtis plow on my FEL. Almost always snowplow in float position but sometimes I use the downward hydraulic pressure of the FEL to scape stubborn matted snow. This will raise the front end or at the very least lighten the front end enough to make steering tough. Other times, even in the float position , with heavy snow, the weight of the snow in front of the blade will push the front end of the tractor one way or another. It is situations like these where brake steering is very effective because the tractor has enough snot to keep pushing forward as long as I can keep it pointed in the right direction. Kubota puts two independant brake pedals presumable to let an operator assist steering when need be. Why on earth they put it on the same side as the HST pedal is beyound me. At least they could have made it so the operator could use his heel to move the HST forward while at the same time use his toes for the brakes, trouble is the pedals are too far apart. If the independant brakes aren't for brake steering then why even bother having them on a HST. Frankly, all you would need is a parking brake.

 

[WALT]

Ready to throw in one more pedal on the right side?

On my L-39 with GST, the differential lock is also on the right, to be pressed down by the heel of your right foot. As you might imagine, using your right heel ends your ability to use your right foot/toes to use the foot throttle or brake pedals. However, due to the open platform operator station, with practice, it is possible to swing your left foot over to hold down the diff. lock, and use your right foot for the brakes, and your right hand on the hand throttle. You generally are not using the diff. lock and single wheel brake at the same time, unless a wheel is stuck, but you are using the diff. lock and the foot throttle in many situations.

With this operation, you need to be thinking like an octopus, or you run out of hands & feet......

WALT

 

[_RaT_]

Ready to throw in one more pedal on the right side?

On my L-39 with GST, the differential lock is also on the right, to be pressed down by the heel of your right foot. As you might imagine, using your right heel ends your ability to use your right foot/toes to use the foot throttle or brake pedals. However, due to the open platform operator station, with practice, it is possible to swing your left foot over to hold down the diff. lock, and use your right foot for the brakes, and your right hand on the hand throttle. You generally are not using the diff. lock and single wheel brake at the same time, unless a wheel is stuck, but you are using the diff. lock and the foot throttle in many situations.

With this operation, you need to be thinking like an octopus, or you run out of hands & feet......

WALT

Walt, do the Japanese know something we do not?

 

[MD11Fr8Dog]

If I DONT have independant rear wheel braking..??...then why do I have TWO brake pedals? ( which "I" always keep locked together anyway)

Left and right, not front and rear!

 

[Stef]

On my L-39 with GST, the differential lock is also on the right, to be pressed down by the heel of your right foot. As you might imagine, using your right heel ends your ability to use your right foot/toes to use the foot throttle or brake pedals.

That's another good example. What could I say about that?... I don't know.