bigdad
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My hooks are cast. Those look like they are welded.
Where is "Pats" Quality Control?
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emmy71
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That looks nothing like the Pat's hitch I bought. I think you got a cheap copy. The workmanship is not Pat's and I have never seen a price that cheap. Rest assured that Pat's will take care of their customer, but I think your beef will be with Agri-Supply. Look at the pictures of Pat's hitch on this site and notice the difference. Demand your money back and spend $20.00 more and get the real thing.
Terry
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I agree here is the Ag link they call it pats
PAT'S QUICK HITCH CAT 1 / STABILIZER BAR INCLUDED - Agri Supply
It is the lowest price I've seen.Maybe they make it up in shipping.
PAT'S QUICK HITCH CAT 1 / STABILIZER BAR INCLUDED - Agri Supply
It is the lowest price I've seen.Maybe they make it up in shipping.
I've had 2 sets of Pat's (the real version) and have never had a question about the quality control. They are very well built. Buy them directly from Pat if you want quality, otherwise you are just getting a cheap knockoff.
I've never seen the Cat 1 version, but what you have has a lot more welds than mine...they look like they were scrapped together.
I've never seen the Cat 1 version, but what you have has a lot more welds than mine...they look like they were scrapped together.
patrick_g
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I have a "Pat's" directly from Pat. It works pretty good on most of my implements most of the time. I have never considered taking it off.
I had an issue about my hydraulic top link not being long enough after the "Pat's" lengthened the bottom arms. Pat mailed me at no cost an extension for the top link. Problem solved at no cost to me for accessory or shipping.
Not all my implements are the same width. Not all Cat 1 implements rigidly adhere to the "standard." Some implements come with reversible dual use pins so the implement can be set up for Cat 1 or Cat 2. So, if you have a system that is fixed width like the ones that are VERY SIMILAR and sold by Harbor Freight, Speeco, Land Pride and so forth, althoiugh it might work really neat, keen, and fine on some implements, it will NOT WORK WELL with any implement with a different spacing between the lower arm mounting pins.
Pat's system has an adjustable rod accessory to hold the required spacing between your lower arms. I got one. I don't use it because I don't have a problem hitching up that would be helped by it. It can help in some instances but I don't find hitching with or without it to be significantly different the vast majority of the time. Your mileage may vary.
I like Pat's system because I have a fairly large collection of implements, some of which vary in mounting pin width. If I used a system with fixed width I'd be in a fix. If I used a system that requires an adapter for every implement I would be looking a a large investment in capitol, much of it for infrequently used implements which would otherwise be orphaned and couldn't be used.
I will be quite interested in finding out what the resolution of your situation is after 1. you talk to your supplier and 2. after you talk to Pat himself.
Pat (A different Pat. We have the same last initial BUT I'm not him, just his customer...)
I had an issue about my hydraulic top link not being long enough after the "Pat's" lengthened the bottom arms. Pat mailed me at no cost an extension for the top link. Problem solved at no cost to me for accessory or shipping.
Not all my implements are the same width. Not all Cat 1 implements rigidly adhere to the "standard." Some implements come with reversible dual use pins so the implement can be set up for Cat 1 or Cat 2. So, if you have a system that is fixed width like the ones that are VERY SIMILAR and sold by Harbor Freight, Speeco, Land Pride and so forth, althoiugh it might work really neat, keen, and fine on some implements, it will NOT WORK WELL with any implement with a different spacing between the lower arm mounting pins.
Pat's system has an adjustable rod accessory to hold the required spacing between your lower arms. I got one. I don't use it because I don't have a problem hitching up that would be helped by it. It can help in some instances but I don't find hitching with or without it to be significantly different the vast majority of the time. Your mileage may vary.
I like Pat's system because I have a fairly large collection of implements, some of which vary in mounting pin width. If I used a system with fixed width I'd be in a fix. If I used a system that requires an adapter for every implement I would be looking a a large investment in capitol, much of it for infrequently used implements which would otherwise be orphaned and couldn't be used.
I will be quite interested in finding out what the resolution of your situation is after 1. you talk to your supplier and 2. after you talk to Pat himself.
Pat (A different Pat. We have the same last initial BUT I'm not him, just his customer...)
Flatheadyoungin
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never thought about them being knock-offs but on the hooks, mine have a nice rounded edges......your's look to be just straight cut with a 90 degree edge and "sharp".........
boy, if they made them look that close, that would be a crock of crap to build your rep and give great customer service only to have the chicom and their distributors help pat take the blame for their crap......
other than alignment, the spatter and paint wouldn't bother me......and i'm pretty picky....
boy, if they made them look that close, that would be a crock of crap to build your rep and give great customer service only to have the chicom and their distributors help pat take the blame for their crap......
other than alignment, the spatter and paint wouldn't bother me......and i'm pretty picky....
thatguy
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Pat (the inventor and mfg) is a member on this board.. IF you got a knock off set, im sure he would be quite interested in knowing about it..
Brian
Brian
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SUNCOAST, as a new TBN member, welcome. It's wonderful you are so handy with metal... I'm sure we'll soon be hearing about your successful innovative projects and seeing photos of them
Maybe a photo of your "4' front detachable swivel tongue extension Land Leveler?"
As many have posted below, we are waiting on your report of how you were treated by either Agri-Supply (first) then Pat himself if necessary.
Many TBN members own Pats System and are very pleased with it. Myself included. Those few who may have had issues have been dealt with very fairly.
He is a TBN sponsor. So give folks an opportunity to make good on their warranties, written and unwritten.
I agree with others... weld spatter is insignificant... and it doesn't look like the version of PATS Cat II I received. Something doesn't seem right regarding what you recieved, it doesn't mirror any prior PATS report on TBN.
Maybe a photo of your "4' front detachable swivel tongue extension Land Leveler?"
As many have posted below, we are waiting on your report of how you were treated by either Agri-Supply (first) then Pat himself if necessary.
Many TBN members own Pats System and are very pleased with it. Myself included. Those few who may have had issues have been dealt with very fairly.
He is a TBN sponsor. So give folks an opportunity to make good on their warranties, written and unwritten.
I agree with others... weld spatter is insignificant... and it doesn't look like the version of PATS Cat II I received. Something doesn't seem right regarding what you recieved, it doesn't mirror any prior PATS report on TBN.
I have not contacted Agri-Supply regarding this matter yet. I just opened the package yesterday early evening to find this mess awaiting me. Agri-Supply catalog customer service is closed today. If this is not Pats product and he has his product name trademarked this would be a litigious situation. My issues are with the product and since it is advertised as "Pats" that of course is why I am using this inference. I will absolutely find out tommorrow who the manufacturer is (It is advertised PATS on the box) and in any case I will return this. I'm sure I'll get hung for the return shipping but I will get to whatever level of management it takes to rectify this issue. If I were Pat and this was not my product, I would definitely not rest until Agri-Supply made it clear in their advertising of the actual manufacturer and there is no relationship with "Pats Quick Hitch". As for anybody knowing the difference in the items with one called "Pats Quick Hitch" and another "Pats Easy Change System",(It is only called by this name in their catalog)(ON the internet item #70078 is "PATS QUICK HITCH" businesses do this all of the time trying to entice a customer thinking a manufacturer has made a "custom" version just for them. So if you do not have an Agri-Supply catalog, you are buying "PATS QUICK HITCH" from the internet. I agree the "Pats" here does have differences and I'm sure they are of a positive nature. Once again, all I had to go on last night and this morning was it was "Pats". I was expecting something of a high quality with the majority of people here very happy. I just figured once again this is my luck and I got the reject that was supposed to be thrown away.
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