Why 5.1 quart jugs?

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Our local Meijers store is now advertising both conventional and synthetic motor oils in 5.1 quart containers. I have been buying Mobil 5W-30 at WallyWorld in a 5 quart jug for several years now. Exactly what is the purpose of selling such an odd size as 5.1 quarts? My 3 GM vehicles take 6 quarts, 5 quarts, or 4.5 quarts. By draining a half quart out of a 5 quart jug I have the proper fill for the car that takes 4.5. Why sell a 5.1 quart jug? The way they downsize product packaging today, I'm surprised they didn't reduce it to 4.9 quarts.
 
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Weird, But maybe it is due to the clinging property of the product? I usually give the bottle an extra 30 seconds to drip free into the funnel? I did this as I had set some bottles down and noticed several tablespoons of oil still in the bottoms. I doubt that it shows up on the dip-stick..Nothing like the anger, I had when I saw that the Dealer had over-filled my car again, by at-least a half a quart? Why angry? Charged for an extra quart, plus it can blow out oil seals? Most of the time, I would rather do it myself..
 
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Maybe like TV between Walfart ex: TV134AWB Worstbuy TV134AWP Sears TV134AWL no price matching between anybody thats why they all offer price match now even autoparts stores
 
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Weird, But maybe it is due to the clinging property of the product? I usually give the bottle an extra 30 seconds to drip free into the funnel? I did this as I had set some bottles down and noticed several tablespoons of oil still in the bottoms. I doubt that it shows up on the dip-stick..Nothing like the anger, I had when I saw that the Dealer had over-filled my car again, by at-least a half a quart? Why angry? Charged for an extra quart, plus it can blow out oil seals? Most of the time, I would rather do it myself..

Wife used to take her car (now MINE) to dealership for oil changes, well the manual calls for 4.5 quarts. After a few changes I noticed invoice for oil changes read "Quantity 10" (half-quarts) @ $1.00 per half-quart. Took invoices to service department and told them either they were overfilling the engine by a half quart or cheating customers by selling them for half-quart not actually put in engine. They would not give me a straight answer so I went to dealership owner with papers and he said I am sorry let me give you the next two oil changes for free, well I told him I wasn't returning for ANY reason and you know what you can do with your free oil changes, you and service manager both. Frickin' crooks. I know they were charging for the half quart not actually added.
 
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WalMart got the exclusive for the 5 quart jug from all the big oil companies. They were the first. The 5.something jug is to be able to offer the same thing and not get slammed by WalMart.
 
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WalMart got the exclusive for the 5 quart jug from all the big oil companies. They were the first. The 5.something jug is to be able to offer the same thing and not get slammed by WalMart.

My, the things you learn here on TBN...thanks. :thumbsup:
 
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The .1 left in the container now makes it haz mat and costs twice as much to dispose of.:laughing:
 
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So after buying 10 of them you get a "free" jug as long as you save every one? elifino

I buy them at my shop all the time and its probably more because its cheaper than buying 5 - 1 qt bottles. The ones I buy are 5.25 qts though and I do save them for the "free" qt.
 
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WalMart got the exclusive for the 5 quart jug from all the big oil companies. They were the first. The 5.something jug is to be able to offer the same thing and not get slammed by WalMart.

That's amazing I wasn't aware that oil came from china. j/k :D
 
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So after buying 10 of them you get a "free" jug as long as you save every one? elifino

I buy them at my shop all the time and its probably more because its cheaper than buying 5 - 1 qt bottles. The ones I buy are 5.25 qts though and I do save them for the "free" qt.

Those 5 qt. jugs sold at WW give you a much better price per quart than buying 5 single quarts, last time I compared it was a savings of about $2 total. I really like the 5 quart containers, with their wide mouth and sturdy construction they are an ideal jug for storing used oil and recycling it.
 
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I just wish the cars and trucks were a standard capacity. For example my 2 Powerstrokes take 15 QTS but the oil is sold in gallons so I have to buy 4 gallons, 16 QTS, and have a little left over.

My Nissan Titan take 6.5 QTS. I buy 5 QT jugs but then have 3.5 QTS left over. It takes forever to get back to a even quantity. Pain in the arse.

My boats take 5.5 QTS for one and 4.5 QTS for the other but I get the oil in gallons. Again, a pain.

My tractor take 6.0 QTS. A pain once again but at least on it 3 gallons will give me 2 even oil changes. Not so bad.

I wish they would make all cars 4 QTS. All truck gas trucks 6 QTS, and all diesels 12 or 16 QTS so it would work out for the larger containers and we could ditch the quarts.

Chris
 
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I just wish the cars and trucks were a standard capacity. For example my 2 Powerstrokes take 15 QTS but the oil is sold in gallons so I have to buy 4 gallons, 16 QTS, and have a little left over.

My Nissan Titan take 6.5 QTS. I buy 5 QT jugs but then have 3.5 QTS left over. It takes forever to get back to a even quantity. Pain in the arse.

My boats take 5.5 QTS for one and 4.5 QTS for the other but I get the oil in gallons. Again, a pain.

My tractor take 6.0 QTS. A pain once again but at least on it 3 gallons will give me 2 even oil changes. Not so bad.

I wish they would make all cars 4 QTS. All truck gas trucks 6 QTS, and all diesels 12 or 16 QTS so it would work out for the larger containers and we could ditch the quarts.

Chris

Good point...when I started this thread I was saying my vehicles took 4.5, 5, or 6 quarts. The engines range from 3 to 6 liters, which seems odd, given the narrow range of oil fill capacity they have. It would be convenient to have a standard fill capacity as you describe, but by the time it happened, we would be too old to take advantage of it.
 
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perhaps this is the start of future for short changing us? kinda like a 2X4 used to be 2 inch by 4 inch, but now its 1 1/2 by 3 1/2?
 
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I just wish the cars and trucks were a standard capacity. For example my 2 Powerstrokes take 15 QTS but the oil is sold in gallons so I have to buy 4 gallons, 16 QTS, and have a little left over.

I buy the 15w40 motorcraft PSD oil at walmart if 5qt jugs.. works out great for a 15qt change for my PSD's..

soundguy


ps.. 4.82l is 5.1q.. so nothing special there. was hoping it made it to 5l and that might have been a good explanation 5.28 qts = 5l.. so a 5.25 qt bottle might actually make sense..
 
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Our local Meijers store is now advertising both conventional and synthetic motor oils in 5.1 quart containers. I have been buying Mobil 5W-30 at WallyWorld in a 5 quart jug for several years now. Exactly what is the purpose of selling such an odd size as 5.1 quarts? My 3 GM vehicles take 6 quarts, 5 quarts, or 4.5 quarts. By draining a half quart out of a 5 quart jug I have the proper fill for the car that takes 4.5. Why sell a 5.1 quart jug? The way they downsize product packaging today, I'm surprised they didn't reduce it to 4.9 quarts.

Perhaps these are 5 liter containers,maybe intended for the Canadian market?Think metric system.A quart equals .946 liters as I recall?
 
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perhaps this is the start of future for short changing us? kinda like a 2X4 used to be 2 inch by 4 inch, but now its 1 1/2 by 3 1/2?

I really wonder how long ago a 2X4 measured that size, my house was built in 1949 but the studs are 3.5 X 1.5. My brother owned a Monkey Ward kit house that was built in 1923 and the studs were identical in size.
 
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I buy the 15w40 motorcraft PSD oil at walmart if 5qt jugs.. works out great for a 15qt change for my PSD's..

soundguy


ps.. 4.82l is 5.1q.. so nothing special there. was hoping it made it to 5l and that might have been a good explanation 5.28 qts = 5l.. so a 5.25 qt bottle might actually make sense..

Lots of the auto parts stores around here have the 5.28qt jugs.

It gets confusing.

Chris
 
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We always tip our jugs, no matter the size, on a tilt and let drain down to a bottom corner after emptying them the first time and then drain usually twice again same technique. I'd hate to say how much oil is wasted every year by people tipping jugs and draining them just once and tossing them in the trash.
 
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Lots of the auto parts stores around here have the 5.28qt jugs.

It gets confusing.

Chris

at least the 5.28qt / 5 l jug makes good sense.. but shows us the metric syste, is finally taking us over.. :)

soundguy
 

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