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Not to point fingers.. but the generic term 'gun'.. can mean a rifle or handgun.. here's what meriam-webster has to say about the term 'gun'.. definition b lays it out in black and white.....:
Main Entry: 1gun
Pronunciation: \ˈgən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English gonne, gunne
Date: 14th century
1 a: a piece of ordnance usually with high muzzle velocity and comparatively flat trajectory b: a portable firearm (as a rifle or handgun) c: a device that throws a projectile
Main Entry: 1gun
Pronunciation: \ˈgən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English gonne, gunne
Date: 14th century
1 a: a piece of ordnance usually with high muzzle velocity and comparatively flat trajectory b: a portable firearm (as a rifle or handgun) c: a device that throws a projectile
My dad can tell stories of men who used the term GUN when referring to a rifle. I can repeat the story as well as the ditty the men had to chant while marching around holding their rifle and their gun but this is a family site. Its a wee bit funny.
Later,
Dan
Farmwithjunk
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A good friend was on the Forrestal in the 70's and 80's. He referred to it as the USS ForrestFire.
Farmwithjunk
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I would think there is more than one person on TBN who has had to do push ups, sprints or some other form of PE when they uttered the word "clip" instead of the proper word, magazine.
They might be a wee be sensitive to the use of the proper word.
I always used the correct word for said device that holds cartridges and thus escaped the use of PE to help the forgetful remember the proper term.
My dad can tell stories of men who used the term GUN when referring to a rifle. I can repeat the story as well as the ditty the men had to chant while marching around holding their rifle and their gun but this is a family site. Its a wee bit funny.
Later,
Dan
Yep! I learned that "ditty" back in 1965 at Ft Benning!
gemini5362
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doesnt the correct term depend on the rifle you are talking about. If my memory serves me correctly the M-1 Grand has a clip
gemini, your memory is good...A "magazine" is spring loaded....A "clip" such as used in the M1 Garand is not...Pulling that one out of my schooling at Aviation Ordnance school, Jax Fla......1968.
Don
MikeD74T
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Technically, the clip is inserted into the magazine on the Garand. Both terms suffer correct and incorrect usage. MikeD74T
dmccarty
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Soundguy said:
I don't think Marine DI's consult Merriam-Webster for THEIR definition of "gun". Later,
Dan
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Gemini,
I'm glad to know there's another out in TBN land that knows a little something-something about the best gun system ever devised! Awesome. Sounds like you know your stuff too. I had forgotten all about the fact that the ship has to turn off all RADAR when unjamming a gun. I can't remember (it's been a long, long time), but it seems that we only had to do that with HEI rounds that were jamming the gun system. I just can't remember now. I do remember that we had to send formal requests up through the chain of command that went all the way up to the skipper of the carrier for us to be able to work on the gun. Seems they didn't like being "blind" either, go figure. We'd have small windows of opportunity to get it fixed, or either we had to wait until the next night. (Seems that our HERO work always happened at night). I can neither confirm nor deny though that we've had a gun apart up on the bow of the boat, at night, when the RADAR was still running. Talk about trouble if one had cooked off. I don't even want to think of it. Man, I had forgotten all about that. But, for all those that don't know, the drum, feed chutes, etc., protect the round from HERO (hazard of electromagnetic radiation to ordnance).
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I'm glad to know there's another out in TBN land that knows a little something-something about the best gun system ever devised! Awesome. Sounds like you know your stuff too. I had forgotten all about the fact that the ship has to turn off all RADAR when unjamming a gun. I can't remember (it's been a long, long time), but it seems that we only had to do that with HEI rounds that were jamming the gun system. I just can't remember now. I do remember that we had to send formal requests up through the chain of command that went all the way up to the skipper of the carrier for us to be able to work on the gun. Seems they didn't like being "blind" either
, go figure. We'd have small windows of opportunity to get it fixed, or either we had to wait until the next night. (Seems that our HERO work always happened at night). I can neither confirm nor deny though that we've had a gun apart up on the bow of the boat, at night, when the RADAR was still running. Talk about trouble if one had cooked off. I don't even want to think of it. Man, I had forgotten all about that. But, for all those that don't know, the drum, feed chutes, etc., protect the round from HERO (hazard of electromagnetic radiation to ordnance). Podunk
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He'd be right. I Rode the Forrestal, aka: "the FID", aka: "ForrestFire" back in 1987 and 1988.
FID = First in Defense. Named after the first secretary of defense.
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