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SSQA is great. So quick and easy. The big plus is there are so many attachments that use it. It's kind of the universal standard. I wouldn't get a tractor without it.
Why SSQA?
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That video is JDQA and defiantly not a non quick attach loader. It would probably take 20 minutes to change a pin on bucket and require getting greasy. I would prefer SSQA because it's more versatile, but anything is better than a pin on bucket. That video wasn't hardly an honest test. You do have to get off the tractor and put pins in and then get back off and remove the pins to disconnect.
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Mate, I have no idea what you are referring to as a "quick attach loader".
I run the JDQA on my 4105 and it does what is shown in the OP's video... with one exception. The video neglected to show that you do have to get off your arse and put a drop-pin into both of the pins at the bottom in order to lock it in place.
As kennyd has stated, there are plenty of implement manufacturers that make their implements to the JDQA configuration. I have a 4in1 bucket and a combination bale-spike/pallet-fork for my 300CX straight from an Australian company and I can swap them around easy-peasy. To be honest, in my limited exposure to tractors & FEL attachment configurations... the only other QA I've personally seen here is the European standard, which sorta looks SSQA-ish, but lighter in construction.
All I can say is that the Skid Steer Quick Attach is designed for a skid steer and the heavy work that it's designed to do. It's 'overkill' for what a FEL is designed to do. (putting aside the blatant, joyful abuse we put our FELs through)
olPete
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Do you guys ever see anything eurohitch or is it 'euro' for a reason? It's a real good system, self locking when you crowd back it trips the locking handle- but obviously not the standard one in the US. Curious.
kennyd
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Kubota and John Deere offer it as an option on the larger loaders sold here in the US, but it's just not real popular here. Another name for it is a "Global Carrier"
olPete
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Thanks Kenny I have never heard it called that. Very similar to what's on the video except the dimensions obviously, and the solid bar across the top to prevent the flex. I have an oddball so I do feel the pain of having the 'different' system
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As Kenny says, Euro is less popular. Less popular in general and far less popular on the tractor sizes most discussed here. It is, however, far stronger than SSQA, easier to line up, and less likely to have tractor side devices twist from abuse or over use. The Euro coupler latches are simpler and more durable as well. Euro makes more sense at some point over 75-90 HP from the standpoint of strength and durability.
olPete
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Thanks guys. I'm fascinated by all the different gear you have over there. I did put a 4000 hours on an ASV positrack and thought the SSQA was a pretty neat design. I made an adapter plate so all the euro stuff for the tractors would also fit, did a lot of bale work with it etc.
The JDQA seems a hybrid of the two but it's not always good to be different!
So what is the standard over there for large tractors? Euro or the SSQA?
By large, say a 180hp-200hp tractor with a loader? Don't think you need much more on a FEL
The JDQA seems a hybrid of the two but it's not always good to be different!
So what is the standard over there for large tractors? Euro or the SSQA?
By large, say a 180hp-200hp tractor with a loader? Don't think you need much more on a FEL
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scdeerslayer
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You say that now, but what about 5-10 years down the road? You might be saying "it would be helpful if I had XXXXX for the FEL, hopefully I can find someone that makes it for JDQA"
I can't really see Deere not going to SSQA as a standard soon. Deere was already significantly more expensive when I was looking, and I might have looked harder at them but the cost to have the quick detach loader and SSQA made it way too much more. If Deere does make SSQA a standard, then the JDQA attachments may become harder to find.
