will it take off?

[RobS]

Yes, they do glide and do so for surprising distances and heights. I picked up a couple on the deck of a liberty ship...okay, a converted liberty ship but I did go overseas (1955) on the General something or other.

Harry K

... AND, you have post #1000 in this thread! Congrats!!!

 

[tallyho8]

... AND, you have post #1000 in this thread! Congrats!!!

Yes, only 347 more posts to catch up with Eddie's CREATING A LAKE thread, but I don't think it will ever catch up with his number of views. (158,000+)

And Eddie doesn't even have a magic lake....

 

[NewToy]

Rob, Have you ever personally seen flying fish "jump" out of the water? How about a movie maybe?

They swim close to the surface and jump out of the water like other fish B U T once in the air they use their enlarged pectoral fins (and sometimes caudal fins depending on which kind of flying fish) to fly/glide for considerable distances. Their wings produce lift from the air flow over their fins. This is no different from a gliding or soaring bird. The transfer of momentum takes place.

Flying fish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pat

Kind of like those flying squirrels. Those things are a real handful. We had one loose in a cabin we had in the Pokonos, it had everyone freaked out, the women and kid's were screaming and I was in fear of kgtting my eyes clawed out by the crazy thing as I tried to capture it in a beach towell. I finally managed to catch and release him out of doors much to everyones delight.

John

 

[RobJ]

Rob, Have you ever personally seen flying fish "jump" out of the water? How about a movie maybe?

They swim close to the surface and jump out of the water like other fish B U T once in the air they use their enlarged pectoral fins (and sometimes caudal fins depending on which kind of flying fish) to fly/glide for considerable distances. Their wings produce lift from the air flow over their fins. This is no different from a gliding or soaring bird. The transfer of momentum takes place.

Flying fish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pat

yep seen both. the bass was just throwing itself out of the water...think shamo. the flying fish in the gluf glide just a few feet off the surf. the mythbusters deal delt with the beating of the birds wings, might still work the same...dunno.

dang I missed 1000!!!

 

[patrick_g]

Yes, they do glide and do so for surprising distances and heights. I picked up a couple on the deck of a liberty ship...okay, a converted liberty ship but I did go overseas (1955) on the General something or other.

Harry K

Oh, and Harry, I have seen them up close from the old days of the "Great White Steamer" that plied the waters between Long Beach and Santa Catalina as well as from my sailboat when cruising off SOCAL. I can recall them sometimes flapping their fins like crazy. I don't know if it helped or not.

The flapping is something not mentioned in the wikipedia blurb.

Pat

 

[patrick_g]

And Eddie doesn't even have a magic lake....

Sorry, but I think I will have to disagree on that!

I think it is pretty darned magic and I don't worry that Eddie will contradict me.

Pat

 

[patrick_g]

yep seen both. the bass was just throwing itself out of the water...think shamo. the flying fish in the gluf glide just a few feet off the surf. the mythbusters deal delt with the beating of the birds wings, might still work the same...dunno.

dang I missed 1000!!!

Rob, I will certainly agree that Shamu's cavortings above the water are ballistic like the paths of most fish jumping out of the water.

I saw a bass come out of the water vertical about 3 ft above the water and take a sparrow off a tree branch of a dead tree. Nothing left of the bird but some small feathers on the surface and a few short lived bubbles. The fish was still wagging its tail while in the air but it is not likely it helped much once he was airborne. (A new lake near Duncan, Oklahoma circa 1958-9)

Your comments about the flying fish staying close to the waves could easily be interpreted as them being in ground effect as well as riding on the uplifted air being shoved ahead of the moving wave. Pelicans are particularly adept at that. This is also practiced by some soaring plane pilots flying out of Dillingham on the Hawaiian island of Oahu.

Oh, about the birds that have to run to take off. If they were on our experimental conveyor it would cancel their forward speed relative to the earth and their running would not give them any more airspeed so they could not take off.

Pat

 

[beaverhouse]

Rob, I will certainly agree that Shamu's cavortings above the water are ballistic like the paths of most fish jumping out of the water.

I saw a bass come out of the water vertical about 3 ft above the water and take a sparrow off a tree branch of a dead tree. Nothing left of the bird but some small feathers on the surface and a few short lived bubbles. The fish was still wagging its tail while in the air but it is not likely it helped much once he was airborne. (A new lake near Duncan, Oklahoma circa 1958-9)

Your comments about the flying fish staying close to the waves could easily be interpreted as them being in ground effect as well as riding on the uplifted air being shoved ahead of the moving wave. Pelicans are particularly adept at that. This is also practiced by some soaring plane pilots flying out of Dillingham on the Hawaiian island of Oahu.

Oh, about the birds that have to run to take off. If they were on our experimental conveyor it would cancel their forward speed relative to the earth and their running would not give them any more airspeed so they could not take off.

Pat

Oh my aching head!!...TBN just invented a new cure for a hangover!!...Just read this thread!...It could drive us to drink more!!

 

[patrick_g]

Just read this thread!...It could drive us to drink more!!

For some of us it is just a short putt.

Pat

 

[turnkey4099]

Oh my aching head!!...TBN just invented a new cure for a hangover!!...Just read this thread!...It could drive us to drink more!!

So just what is the downside to that?

Harry K