Wireless pet fence??

[coobie]

We bought a new Brittany spaniel about 8 months ago.She is **** on wheels trying to keep her in then yard.I was looking at the wireless pet safe model PiF00-12917 fence to keep her in the yard.Anyone have any good/bad experience with the wireless fence.They are not cheap $299.99 so before I buy one would like some feedback.Thanks.

 

[Dr Dave]

My mom has one for her 2 cockerspanials, it works good, but she has forget to torn it off when they go for car rides.:shocked:

Dave

 

[rsallen]

IMHO it depends on how driven the dog is.
If she's strongly driven on prey I wouldn't trust electric.
In drive she'll blow right through the line without so much as a blink.

 

[Express]

I did have good luck with them. My lab learned the property boarders quickly. Spend time with dog with the training. The only thing I can remember is to make sure the unit is grounded well. Lightning strikes will take them out. Good luck

 

[gwdixon]

There are some other threads on TBN about this subject (I think). Check the very bottom of this page for other links.

Anyway, with wireless you lose the visual stimulation of the wire. On my farm I use the wire and my labs will absolutely. positively, not challenge the physical wire once they found out what it means.

Another advantage is that you can shut it off after a few months and they won't test it (unlike pigs!).

If you take the dog somewhere, like camping or to someone else's house, you can set up a dummy enclosure and the dog will respect the wire.

It seems to me that the wireless doesn't have much range and requires the collar be remembered or worn all the time.

 

[coobie]

There are some other threads on TBN about this subject (I think). Check the very bottom of this page for other links.

Anyway, with wireless you lose the visual stimulation of the wire. On my farm I use the wire and my labs will absolutely. positively, not challenge the physical wire once they found out what it means.

Another advantage is that you can shut it off after a few months and they won't test it (unlike pigs!).

If you take the dog somewhere, like camping or to someone else's house, you can set up a dummy enclosure and the dog will respect the wire.

It seems to me that the wireless doesn't have much range and requires the collar be remembered or worn all the time.

The model I am looking at covers 3/4 of a acre.Instructions say don,t leave collar on for more than 12 hours at a time.Our Brittany spaniel is a house dog so I think we be good with that part of it.

 

[CurlyDave]

I have used one of the original Invisible Fence brand with 3 labs and one American Eskimo. It worked well at two different houses unless the batteries in the dog collar wore out.

To me, the real issue was how tough and water resistant the individual collars were. If the nylon collar strap was chewed it was replaced free. The electronics units were pretty good, even chewing and the abuse only a water dog can dish out didn't cause failures. I was always hesitant about other brands due to that issue.

 

[CurlyDave]

I have used one of the original Invisible Fence brand with 3 labs and one American Eskimo. It worked well at two different houses unless the batteries in the dog collar wore out.

To me, the real issue was how tough and water resistant the individual collars were. If the nylon collar strap was chewed it was replaced free. The electronics units were pretty good, even chewing and the abuse only a water dog can dish out didn't cause failures. I was always hesitant about other brands due to that issue.

 

[Egbert]

Seems to me ...

A running/excited dog would find itself on the outside of the fence and then not want to come back.

Also, this type of fence does NOTHING to keep out other animals.

 

[coobie]

Seems to me ...

A running/excited dog would find itself on the outside of the fence and then not want to come back.

Also, this type of fence does NOTHING to keep out other animals.

Not so much worried about other animals as we live in the middle of the woods on 11 acres,no close neighbors.

 

[Egbert]

Coyotes? Skunks?

I'll soon be building in the middle of my 100 acres. Approximately 2 acres around the home will be inside chainlink fencing. I figure a good fence is as much for protection of my pets as anything else.

 

[coobie]

Coyotes? Skunks?

I'll soon be building in the middle of my 100 acres. Approximately 2 acres around the home will be inside chainlink fencing. I figure a good fence is as much for protection of my pets as anything else.

To each his own.Good luck on your building project.

 

[troutsqueezer]

We bought one when our dogs were young because we didn't want them in the poison oak and didn't want the neighbors to shoot them which is legal around here. Back then, it cost $400 but worth every penny. The dogs were trained in two weeks and even before that, they would not go near the little flags you put out around the perimeter which makes the boundary visible to them. After 13 years, they never left the yard unless we were with them. We sold the system after a short while for almost what we paid for it. Can't recommend them enough. It can save the dog's life. Wireless is the only way to go, I think.

 

[blueriver]

I have the pet safe wireless unit on my Anatolian Pyrenees she's s big aggressive guard dog ... I love the unit and would not consider anything else she knows her boundaries and doesn't test it .. They said to show her the boundary and set flags .. I set the shock up high walked away and she discovered it on her own !!

Other critters that "come in" to her area generally don't leave !!

I recommend them .. At least for my situation .. The batteries at first in the collar didn't last long .. I guess cause she was testing it .. Now I seem to get about 90 days.

 

[rsallen]

The thing about the guardian breeds is that they are bred to a sense of territory (or should be), that is their standard.
On the other hand the Britney's are a hunting dog with no innate sense of territory.
If the dog (the Brit) is from good working stock I'd no more trust an invisible fence then just allowing the dog to roam free and hope the dog makes it back home.

 

[blueriver]

The thing about the guardian breeds is that they are bred to a sense of territory (or should be), that is their standard. On the other hand the Britney's are a hunting dog with no innate sense of territory. If the dog (the Brit) is from good working stock I'd no more trust an invisible fence then just allowing the dog to roam free and hope the dog makes it back home.

Well now when a stranger or a wild critter comes around that 100lbs of stand up hair, going aggressively towards that boundary ... Well it stops her. I'd find it hard to believe that a smart breed such as a Brit wouldn't as we'll be trained to the boundary with a wireless system.

 

[coobie]

The thing about the guardian breeds is that they are bred to a sense of territory (or should be), that is their standard.
On the other hand the Britney's are a hunting dog with no innate sense of territory.
If the dog (the Brit) is from good working stock I'd no more trust an invisible fence then just allowing the dog to roam free and hope the dog makes it back home.

H,mm a Brittany has no sense of there own territory.Have you ever owned this breed?Got to disagree.This is our 4 britt in the last 35 years and they DO know there own territory and surroundings

 

[coobie]

I have the pet safe wireless unit on my Anatolian Pyrenees she's s big aggressive guard dog ... I love the unit and would not consider anything else she knows her boundaries and doesn't test it .. They said to show her the boundary and set flags .. I set the shock up high walked away and she discovered it on her own !!

Other critters that "come in" to her area generally don't leave !!

I recommend them .. At least for my situation .. The batteries at first in the collar didn't last long .. I guess cause she was testing it .. Now I seem to get about 90 days.

Thanks good info.This unit has the rechargeable battery.

 

[westcliffe01]

I have had one of these systems for years. Put 3 different dogs through the training. Key thing, particularly with stubborn breeds is to set the collar to max stimulation level from the outset. If the system has enough sting, the dog only tests it 2 or 3 times then its done. If you use level 2, some dogs will simply tolerate it while continuing to do what they intended.

The wireless collar works differently to the buried wire. The collar received 2 radio signals, a stronger one to know that it is near a transmitter and a weaker one that is adjustable for the boundary. The system has a high/low power mode + a rotary wheel for fine tuning. When the weaker signal reaches its critical threshold, that is considered the boundary. The collar will continue the shock treatment for up to a certain time (20-30 seconds) once the animal is past the boundary. Then it will lock out until the animal comes back over the boundary. So dogs that do violate the boundary are able to return after enduring an extended zapping.

I have not yet met a dog that is willing to endure the 20 seconds more than just a couple of times. Our Minipin was extremely resistant, she would simply ignore a regular "training" collar. Once we had her sterilized she calmed down a bit...

 

[coobie]

I have had one of these systems for years. Put 3 different dogs through the training. Key thing, particularly with stubborn breeds is to set the collar to max stimulation level from the outset. If the system has enough sting, the dog only tests it 2 or 3 times then its done. If you use level 2, some dogs will simply tolerate it while continuing to do what they intended.

The wireless collar works differently to the buried wire. The collar received 2 radio signals, a stronger one to know that it is near a transmitter and a weaker one that is adjustable for the boundary. The system has a high/low power mode + a rotary wheel for fine tuning. When the weaker signal reaches its critical threshold, that is considered the boundary. The collar will continue the shock treatment for up to a certain time (20-30 seconds) once the animal is past the boundary. Then it will lock out until the animal comes back over the boundary. So dogs that do violate the boundary are able to return after enduring an extended zapping.

I have not yet met a dog that is willing to endure the 20 seconds more than just a couple of times. Our Minipin was extremely resistant, she would simply ignore a regular "training" collar. Once we had her sterilized she calmed down a bit...

We just had our britt. neutered but she,s still he!! bent.Thanks for the information.I guess we will order the unit.