wood stoves

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The wood stove that home depot sells has a huge following and is a very well respected stove, even on hearth.com

Check out the englander NC30. It seems to compete if not surpass the big dollar stoves, and is built in North Carolina, USA.

Englander 2,200 sq. ft. Wood-Burning Stove-30-NCH at The Home Depot

This is what I have and it works just fine. I've owned 4 different brands including a nice regency. I think the only real difference in today's stoves are the finishes unless you get into electronic controlled models like a blaze king.
 
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Obama administration faces backlash on proposed wood stove regulations
Published April 05, 2014
FoxNews.com

FILE: March 8, 2014: A wood stove heats a home in Freeport, Maine.AP

A federal proposal requiring more efficiency from wood-burning stoves has ignited a debate between the Obama administration and lawmakers who oppose the new regulations, arguing the rules impose an unfair burden on people in remote areas.

The Environmental Protection Agency proposed a rule changes in January that would dramatically tighten emissions requirements on new wood-powered heaters, though does not impact ones already in homes.

The EPA estimates that as much as 13 percent of all soot pollution in the U.S. is a result of inefficient wood-fired stoves and boilers.

The dispute pits several mostly urban states, mainly in the northeast, against some rural states such as South Dakota, which says the rules would impose an unfair burden on people in remote areas. About one in four South Dakota homes has a fireplace or wood stove.

Among those opposed to new rules are South Dakota Republicans Sen. John Thune and Rep. Kristi Noem, who say the new requirements will have a big impact on South Dakotans who rely on wood stoves during the long winter.

"Leave it to the EPA to impose more regulations on an affordable and renewable fuel source after one of the coldest winters on record and a costly propane shortage," Noem said.

Last week, Thune wrote EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy asking her to abandon the proposed changes and work with Congress to find a more balanced approach.

"South Dakota and many other states are continuing to deal with a propane shortage, which has resulted in record-high propane prices," Thune wrote. "Many families turn to secondary sources of heat, such as wood stoves, when propane and heating fuel prices increase." Residential propane prices surged this winter to $4 a gallon, nearly double the typical rate.

The regulations the EPA has on the books date back to 1988, and don't take into account some wood-burning devices that weren't in use back then. The proposed rules would give manufacturers five years to make products that reduce emissions by approximately 80 percent.

It would apply to wood heaters, including outdoor and indoor wood-fired boilers, known as hydronic heaters. The changes would only apply to new stoves and rules would not impact outdoor fireplaces, fire pits or other types of outdoor fire containers.

In Missouri, more than three dozen lawmakers co-sponsored a bill declaring that "All Missourians have a right to heat their homes and businesses using wood-burning furnaces, stoves, fireplaces and heaters." Democratic and Republican members of Congress from Maine, Montana and Missouri have also expressed concerns about the EPA's proposal.

Long article A lot more here
Obama administration faces backlash on proposed wood stove regulations | Fox News
 
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#63  
We've got a lot less BS up here in the north EH!
I took the plunge and ordered the Pacific Energy T5 Alderlea with blower, fresh air kit and black porcelain finish. She's a sweet looking unit with a great warranty and good reviews. Even though the coldest winter here in 116 years has basically come to an end, we are excited about making this addition to the house. Too bad I didn't have the cash to do this last fall, oh well, at least we will be set up for next winter. I'll post pics hopefully soon, should take about 3 weeks for it to come in and then line up my installer when his schedule allows.
 
   / wood stoves #64  
Good choice. The T5 is a very good stove.
 
   / wood stoves #65  
Just don't forget the flue damper about 3ft above the stove (as high as you can reach). You will regret it later when the draft exceeds the stove requirements if you do not have a damper.

We've got a lot less BS up here in the north EH!
I took the plunge and ordered the Pacific Energy T5 Alderlea with blower, fresh air kit and black porcelain finish. She's a sweet looking unit with a great warranty and good reviews. Even though the coldest winter here in 116 years has basically come to an end, we are excited about making this addition to the house. Too bad I didn't have the cash to do this last fall, oh well, at least we will be set up for next winter. I'll post pics hopefully soon, should take about 3 weeks for it to come in and then line up my installer when his schedule allows.
 
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Figured I'd give an update.

Well well well whadda ya know the stove finally came, I was chatting with the place we are getting it from and apparently because of the time of year when we placed the order they had to make it. I hope it looks good considering the almost 3 months it took to get here. I'm stopping in to pay for it today and see if they can't do a free delivery because of the wait we had to go through. After that is the install and we will be good to go.
 
   / wood stoves #67  
Just don't forget the flue damper about 3ft above the stove (as high as you can reach). You will regret it later when the draft exceeds the stove requirements if you do not have a damper.

Flue Dampers are not required for air tight stoves. The inlet air can be shut off or reduced.
 
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No EPA certified stove is "air tight". Quite the contrary. They are very leaky indeed based on how the EPA has defined the test. Every certified EPA stove I have had will exceed 1000F flue temperature with the air control fully closed given my 20'+ of vertical indoor chimney. The flue damper is the only way to tame the chimney draft to the point that the air control on the stove is of any use at all. Now obviously I am talking about winter conditions with 20F or less temperature outside and 70+ inside which creates a strong stack effect.

Flue Dampers are not required for air tight stoves. The inlet air can be shut off or reduced.
 
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We have the Jotul F-100. We live in a 14 year old modular home that has a built-in fireplace. The F-100 was the only model that was short enough that I could use the existing flue. I would have liked to have a bigger model, but that was all I could get to work. Even though our house is just over 2000 square feet, the little stove does a great job. It really cuts down on our utility bill.
We have electric central heat, but love the wood fire. We just keep our thermostat set on about 62, and use the central heat as a backup to the wood stove. It usually only comes on if (a) it's really cold outside, or (b) I'm too lazy to get up and put more wood in the stove. :D
 
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No EPA certified stove is "air tight". Quite the contrary. They are very leaky indeed based on how the EPA has defined the test. Every certified EPA stove I have had will exceed 1000F flue temperature with the air control fully closed given my 20'+ of vertical indoor chimney. The flue damper is the only way to tame the chimney draft to the point that the air control on the stove is of any use at all. Now obviously I am talking about winter conditions with 20F or less temperature outside and 70+ inside which creates a strong stack effect.

My Osburne EPA stove instructions specifically say not to install a flue damper. Mine is installed in the basement of a two story house with a full height chimney and outside air intake. I use a stove pipe thermometer and can get the temperature pretty much any where I want with the intake air damper.
 

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