Workmaster 50 hydraulic problem, Am i getting the ?????

[sixdogs]

I have only bought one brand new tractor and come to think of it it never had the "new" car smell.

Something for the manufacturers to work on

Dave M7040

You can buy "New Car Smell" in a spray bottle. Apparently, it's just evaporatng plastic solvents.

 

[BMan2005]

bspeedy, I sure hope so...I've been down a long road with this thing....and i still like the tractor, and the hydraulics seem to still be working properly and the fuel drip must have been as i suspected because it went away. I just really have had to learn a whole lot about my dealer and service the hard way....and even though i do like the tractor and it is what i wanted when purchased i still am on the fence about possibly trading? just to know for my sake that hopefully the next one would be brand new again and not dismantled,played with,poked, prodded and in general a science experiment or training exercise then put back together with a sawdust fix that will just get me by the next 21 or so months of New Holland warranty period...... BUT do i take that risk???.........I could get worse as someone on here posted before...... and now that it is working good it seems to be a great tractor......I just lost the joy of Owning a new tractor about 2 hours after delivery........and took on a headache of dealing with a lot of parts changers that meant well......

Man this is very frustrating! But maybe the glitches are worked out and it's good for the long haul.

I felt like might have been headed down this same road with my new one and explained my case to the dealer. Luckily he's swapping me into a new unit. Hope it's a Tuesday-Thursday built machine.

Good luck man.

 

[nwut05]

BMan2005, Thanks, yes it's been frustrating and all but I think after lots of looking on and off the net and dealer lot the 60 with the 621 loader may just be the sweet spot in this lineup of tractors. and the price my dealer quoted me during all of this mess was a good price for me to move into the 60........ Will i trade? still do not know.....Same tractor as mine just more hp and a little bigger tires and loader, Whatever i do ... I Hope your new one arrives without any issues and we can both get on with life and have dependable tractors..... For a long time

 

[BMan2005]

Yeah he said he's never seen with with this issue and especially off the lot having it. I was grateful he offered up to take it back so easily without me saying much. I thought the 50/60/70 were all the exact same beside HP, but I may be wrong. Other than that if the tractor is what it should be I'll be happy with my choice, still my overall pick from all the brands in this class and price. Good luck with yours man and I'll stay in the loop on here to see how it goes over for you in the end.

 

[nwut05]

UPDATE 11-6-17

After using the Workmaster 50 for a few months since last shop visit. and a issues still plaguing the thing me and the dealer came to terms. We went ahead and swapped it for the 60 and this 50 went to the shop for the last time Friday. I gave it another 20 or 30 hard (but not abusive) hay baling, brush hogging, road grading hours before i gave in and called the dealer. Was it the right thing to do? I will never know.... but all i can say now is that i am completely satisfied with my dealer. He done me right on the swap where it counted $$$$, and tried every way possible to make the process as painless for both of us as he could. In the end i think his Shop did try all they new to do, but they just couldn't squeeze a bad lemon and i have nothing against them. We actually may have fostered a better relationship by getting to know each other a little bit.

So for future reference, If any of you find yourselves with a 2016 Workmaster 50 with a 611tl front end loader on it and the hydraulics start jumping and the gauges start flashing and beeping at you for no reason other than you started it up! Or if you just cannot figure out where that 1/4 gallon of ani-freeze is coming from blowing in the wind every time you rev above 1000 rpms. Send me a line and i will share with you the serial number for the nightmare i had. and hopefully New Holland finds it a home/grave before any of you do.

 

[BMan2005]

UPDATE 11-6-17

After using the Workmaster 50 for a few months since last shop visit. and a issues still plaguing the thing me and the dealer came to terms. We went ahead and swapped it for the 60 and this 50 went to the shop for the last time Friday. I gave it another 20 or 30 hard (but not abusive) hay baling, brush hogging, road grading hours before i gave in and called the dealer. Was it the right thing to do? I will never know.... but all i can say now is that i am completely satisfied with my dealer. He done me right on the swap where it counted $$$$, and tried every way possible to make the process as painless for both of us as he could. In the end i think his Shop did try all they new to do, but they just couldn't squeeze a bad lemon and i have nothing against them. We actually may have fostered a better relationship by getting to know each other a little bit.

So for future reference, If any of you find yourselves with a 2016 Workmaster 50 with a 611tl front end loader on it and the hydraulics start jumping and the gauges start flashing and beeping at you for no reason other than you started it up! Or if you just cannot figure out where that 1/4 gallon of ani-freeze is coming from blowing in the wind every time you rev above 1000 rpms. Send me a line and i will share with you the serial number for the nightmare i had. and hopefully New Holland finds it a home/grave before any of you do.

Glad to hear your troubles are hopefully over, and sounds like your dealer took good care of you man. I have 48 hard working hrs on my WM 60 without a hitch man. It's definitely deserving it's branded name.

 

[sixdogs]

Wow, what a happy ending and great thread. Pease update on the model 60 as things progress.
In a way, I've come away with a new respect for NH despite your troubles.

 

[Oldpath05]

I think I would be curious to find out where that NH tractor ends up, my there should be a TractorFax........

 

[sixdogs]

I think I would be curious to find out where that NH tractor ends up, my there should be a TractorFax........

Maybe-- and maybe not-- it will be auctioned off and noted "as is; where is" with no warranty. I've seen similar.

There are lots of guys that buy problems like this because of the low price.

 

[Turbys_1700]

Happy that your dealer took care of you. Hopefully the 60 will be the trouble free work horse that my 50 has been.

Don't specifically know why you were losing that much antifreeze but I did have to tighten a hose clamp on mine after 100 hours of use. Took one half turn to stop the drip.

Good luck with your new machine.

 

[sixdogs]

This is just me but when it's all done I would drop off a little something to that dealer. Coupon for dinner for two, some eternally old scotch; whatever is appropriate. Can't beat a hundred dollar bill in a thank you card. Make him a partner in your success.

It sure didn't have to turn out this well.

 

[2Buckslake]

WOW! After all you went thru, now I don't feel so bad. I bought a BRAND NEW TC45DA from the local NH dealer back in 06. It's been a great tractor, never had to take it back to the dealer except for a paint issue on the loader! Now here's how well I was treated by the dealer. They delivered the tractor to my house when I wasn't home. When I get home I want to use the FEL. So I get on my tractor and start it up, and, the fuel tank is EMPTY!. Have you ever bought a new car and the tank was empty? Probably not. Needless to say I called the dealer & complained a bit. He said, we don't fill them with fuel, that's the customers job! WTF! That one phone call made me realize the dealer owner didn't give a rats ***** about me or my purchase. LOL! I will NEVER buy another tractor from that DB, and I go out of my way not to patronize his business......You are lucky to have a dealer that at least cared about your issue and tried to resolve it!:muttering:

 

[nwut05]

WORKMASTER 60 UPDATE, Hello to all of you that followed this thread it's been 6 going on 7 months now with the new WM 60. I have to say that i do believe i now have the tractor i expected the first go around with the WM 50. I have put over 110 hrs of snow grading, plowing, discing, tilling, haying both square and round bales 1st cutting 2018 and still watch'n weather to cut more hay. I am Happy with it so far NO issues even remotely similar to the WM 50 i got rid of. It did have a small issue with a software update that caused an error code of 3305 to pop up while haying last week and demanding me to stop in middle of field while raking but a quick call and over-nite trip to the dealer fixed this issue without any problems for me. Dealer said it was just a normal thing that these tractors need as the software was not correct from the factory? but not all of them will give this problem, Dosen't matter to me as long as it has been fixed. Cannot say enough about my dealer or the service department they are covered up right now with every piece of hay equipment and tractor imaginable but i called and they said bring it in and we get it as fast as we can. they offered to come get it but that was going to take a few days as i was who knows how far down on the list:laughing:. So i hauled it in last friday morning by 9am and by 10 am the next day i was picking it up. I know they only had to zap the computer and that don't take long but i was impressed because i was not the first guy wanting a tractor fixed:irked: and as i said they are swamped with hay season fixes right now. So in my Current review of this Workmaster 60 i would have to say this it's a good tractor so far, happy with it so far and expect to be happy with it for foreseeable future. Suggestion if you buy one get the 621 loader and don't look back, get whatever bucket, grapple or whatever you want but the difference in lifting height is a must for me loading round bales and dump trucks. Get the vertical exhaust for 25 bucks when you buy it if it doesn't come with it. Makes a real difference in how much tier4 4 emmissions you eat :licking: and you won't have to chase your windrows square bailing as the down-swept exhaust will blow your windrow to the other side of the field like a leaf blower i added it after market and still wasn't bad but if you get it when you buy it's only the 25 bucks. Also unless you a pretty good mechanic you don't want to take all the parts off the new tractor to put the vertical exhaust on i.e. remove gas tank, fuel filter, hood, bracket, cluster, :confused2: pretty much the rear of the engine compartment of the tractor. Overall this seems to be a good tractor.

This is my only present and future concern!!!! We shall see in the future how well the tier 4 technologically computer advanced too complicated for what it does engine holds up. And hopefully never find out how much a 10 minuet computer update zap costs??? Ever !!!

Safe Tractoring to all if i have any future updates i will post hope this update helps, informs or just intrests someone

 

[sixdogs]

Thanks for the update. One of the lessons here is to find and keep a good dealer.

 

[Turbys_1700]

Glad you got your issues sorted. I traded my 50 couple months ago for a T4.75 to get a cab. Wish New Holland offered the WM in a cab configuration.

 

[nwut05]

Well good morning to all following reading and just looking. New update on the Workmaster 60 and i may have spoke too soon in the last post!:laughing:

The Workmaster 60 is in the shop. Dealer came and picked it up and still waiting on the diagnosis, this is twice now in less than 3 weeks the first issue was a small but aggravating one during hay. The intake to turbo blew off took into dealer and they fixed it within a 24 hr period no problem, they also done a computer update because i started getting a random trouble code again and that fixed that also. Then last Friday i was moving some dirt and the loader got real sluggish and the engine started dogging down and after shutting it off was hard to start and the three point was stuck in the up position with my bush hog on it. Checked around and everywhere the hydraulics were supposed to run was screaming hot (ie under seat , draft control levers lines etc) so i limped it home and called the dealer and they came got it last Monday. My analysis was the hydraulic pump had seized up and that was causing the engine dog down but no official word yet from the dealer. So looks like here we go again Round 2 anyone


P.S. anyone have a massey ferguson 2607h to tell me about good, bad, im looking lol

 

[BMan2005]

Well good morning to all following reading and just looking. New update on the Workmaster 60 and i may have spoke too soon in the last post!:laughing:

The Workmaster 60 is in the shop. Dealer came and picked it up and still waiting on the diagnosis, this is twice now in less than 3 weeks the first issue was a small but aggravating one during hay. The intake to turbo blew off took into dealer and they fixed it within a 24 hr period no problem, they also done a computer update because i started getting a random trouble code and that fixed that also. Then last Friday i was moving some dirt and the loader got real sluggish and the engine started dogging down and after shutting it off was hard to start and the three point was stuck in the up position with my bush hog on it. Checked around and everywhere the hydraulics were supposed to run was screaming hot (ie under seat , draft control levers lines etc) so i limped it home and called the dealer and they came got it last Monday. My analysis was the hydraulic pump had seized up and that was causing the engine dog down but no official word yet from the dealer. So looks like here we go again Round 2 anyone


P.S. anyone have a massey ferguson 2607h to tell me about good, bad, im looking lol

Man I think you get the lemons or something dang! I've got 114 hours on mine working the snot out of it without any problems. Not yard maintenance type stuff either.

But I'll say this, if I had two of the same brand do this to me, I would be switching colors also. Tip the preacher extra on Sunday or something man, lol!

 

[nwut05]

Thanks for reading BMan2005, i don't know if i will try to switch or not yet. my financial adviser ( aka wife ) says we may just have to ride this one out. however the president of the blue tractor company mite not ought to visit anytime soon...lol however like i say i am looking around a little. and i do like the 60 when i can keep it going and by the way 1 have 125 hrs on mine and was trouble free until 118 or so........ good luck

Also my dealer works half day on Saturdays so this morning after the last post i received word that they have a new hydraulic pump and sensor ordered for it they expect it to be here next week......

 

[Oldpath05]

Really a shame tractor companies dont enforce quality anymore. I guess tractor manufacturing is a lot more slack than shipbuilding, here at BIW, Bath built is best built, when a destroyer is delivered to the Navy they get the best of the best, mostly cause we build each ship 3 times because quality control is so stringent, so when the Navy gets the ship, BIW always gets a thanks from the Navy on a well built Destroyer.

Side note>>>>>>>hope these thing are never used to the full potential, just chase a few pirates around Africa and show up for parades and be looked at.

 

[Jstpssng]

Really a shame tractor companies dont enforce quality anymore. I guess tractor manufacturing is a lot more slack than shipbuilding, here at BIW, Bath built is best built, when a destroyer is delivered to the Navy they get the best of the best, mostly cause we build each ship 3 times because quality control is so stringent, so when the Navy gets the ship, BIW always gets a thanks from the Navy on a well built Destroyer.

Side note>>>>>>>hope these thing are never used to the full potential, just chase a few pirates around Africa and show up for parades and be looked at.

Amen!