sandman2234
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David from jax
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Wow, now that's a tractor!
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streamin
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I would do better if I sold it outright, that is for sure. But I estimated about a $5K hit on mine and another $8K for the 5740.The dealer will only give me $18/19 for mine, I can't see $10K less for only 100 hrs use.What do you think??Double Orange said:
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hayden
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Here's more detail, as promised. First, is the Bradco tractor-side backhoe mount. It tucks in nicely and so far doesn't seem to interfere with anything.
The next two show the triple rear remote outlets. This is my first experience with this style coupler. You push the hose nipple in and it couples, then you just pull and it releases. My previous experience is with the collar sleeves that you retract to couple/uncouple. My only complaint is that you really need to put your full weight into pushing the hose into the coupler.
This next one shows the remote valves back in under the cab with all the hoses leading to the coupler block. You can also see the hose loop for the backhoe hydraulic hookup. Without the BH, the two hoses couple together to complete the loop. With the backhoe connected, they couple to the backhoe and the fluid flow is diverted through the BH. It's a simple yet functional approach, but requires shutting down the tractor to swap the hoses. I'm investigating a selector valve that will provide bypass or diversion to the BH with the flip of a lever - stand by for more on this in the coming weeks. I've set up the chipper hydraulic feeder and 3PH wood splitter to use this same hydraulic loop since they require constant fluid flow. If I used the remotes, I'd have to bungee-cord the remote lever to hold it on while using the implement (this is what I had to do on my home-grown remotes on the B2910).
The next set show the loader third function hydraulic valve and button control. The valve bolts to the loader stanchion and is somewhat exposed. At least one person on TBN has noted/complained about this placement. I was bothered by it when I first saw it. However, I don't think it's as bad as originally thought - time will tell. You can see from the pictures that there is a hefty mounting bracket that wraps around the front of the valve and provides a lot of protection. It's 1/4" steel! The cover is also pretty solid, though not 1/4". Most importantly, you can see from the front view that the valve is quite far inside the tire line so it's a lot less exposed that it first seems. I'll let you know the first time I break it....
Last is also part of the loader third function. This is the loader control lever in the cab showing the buttons that control the third function. Down on the horizontal part of the lever is the on/off button that activates/deactivated the buttons on the handle. Now all I need is a grapple to put this to work...
The next two show the triple rear remote outlets. This is my first experience with this style coupler. You push the hose nipple in and it couples, then you just pull and it releases. My previous experience is with the collar sleeves that you retract to couple/uncouple. My only complaint is that you really need to put your full weight into pushing the hose into the coupler.
This next one shows the remote valves back in under the cab with all the hoses leading to the coupler block. You can also see the hose loop for the backhoe hydraulic hookup. Without the BH, the two hoses couple together to complete the loop. With the backhoe connected, they couple to the backhoe and the fluid flow is diverted through the BH. It's a simple yet functional approach, but requires shutting down the tractor to swap the hoses. I'm investigating a selector valve that will provide bypass or diversion to the BH with the flip of a lever - stand by for more on this in the coming weeks. I've set up the chipper hydraulic feeder and 3PH wood splitter to use this same hydraulic loop since they require constant fluid flow. If I used the remotes, I'd have to bungee-cord the remote lever to hold it on while using the implement (this is what I had to do on my home-grown remotes on the B2910).
The next set show the loader third function hydraulic valve and button control. The valve bolts to the loader stanchion and is somewhat exposed. At least one person on TBN has noted/complained about this placement. I was bothered by it when I first saw it. However, I don't think it's as bad as originally thought - time will tell. You can see from the pictures that there is a hefty mounting bracket that wraps around the front of the valve and provides a lot of protection. It's 1/4" steel! The cover is also pretty solid, though not 1/4". Most importantly, you can see from the front view that the valve is quite far inside the tire line so it's a lot less exposed that it first seems. I'll let you know the first time I break it....
Last is also part of the loader third function. This is the loader control lever in the cab showing the buttons that control the third function. Down on the horizontal part of the lever is the on/off button that activates/deactivated the buttons on the handle. Now all I need is a grapple to put this to work...
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Spiveyman
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Amazing.... almost speechless... almost, but what fun would that be on a forum.
Looks like the only thing missing is dirt.
Looks like the only thing missing is dirt.
That is a fabulous setup! Three thoughts:
1. The plastic covers for your rear hydraulics disconnects will get really dirty really quickly. I try to keep mine 'nested' to keep them cleaner. Still have to wipe them out when not in use...
2. You may never experience this with the cab, but I'm curious if you (or others reading this?) get a whiff of hydraulic fluid from the rear now and then. I've been told it is vapor escaping from the question-mark-shaped rubber cover near the rear hydraulic dip stick.
3. Speaking of the question-mark cover, mine gets loose so I put a tiny hose clamp on it. Might want to check yours.
Have a great and safe time on that wonderful machine!
-Brian
1. The plastic covers for your rear hydraulics disconnects will get really dirty really quickly. I try to keep mine 'nested' to keep them cleaner. Still have to wipe them out when not in use...
2. You may never experience this with the cab, but I'm curious if you (or others reading this?) get a whiff of hydraulic fluid from the rear now and then. I've been told it is vapor escaping from the question-mark-shaped rubber cover near the rear hydraulic dip stick.
3. Speaking of the question-mark cover, mine gets loose so I put a tiny hose clamp on it. Might want to check yours.
Have a great and safe time on that wonderful machine!
-Brian
streamin
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Hayden, I'm alittle confused.If I were to buy a BH at a later date, which I'm considering, how many remotes do I need? I have 2 now for the top and tilt on the box blade. What is the one on the side for? Thanks, Ken
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hayden
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streamin said:
I'm not sure I follow what you mean by "the one on the side". I suspect you are refering to the buttons on the side of the loader joystick. I've effectively got 5 sources of external hydraulics. It's pretty excessive, but I figure it's a lot easier to add them now rather than later. Here they are:
1), 2), 3) Three factory rear remotes. The controls are in the cab next to the seat, and the outlets are stacked to the upper right of the 3PH. These can be used for any external hydraulic cylinders for full dual action control. I nominally use them for a) Hydraulic top link, b) Hydraulic side link, c) Implement cylinder e.g. snow blower chute rotation.
4) Front loader "3rd function". I think this is the one your are questioning. This is controlled by the buttons on the loader joy stick. One button is cylinder-out and the other is cylinder-in. The outlets are mounted on the front loader cross bar just behind of he bucket quick hitch. This would be used to control a front grapple, which I don't currently have, but I wanted to take advantage of the clean installation of the factory options, so I got it now.
5) The last isn't really an outlet per-se, and there is no control lever. It's simply replacing the tractor's main hydraulic line with a hose and couplers where it runs between the loader valve and the 3 stacked remotes and 3PH lift. To couple up the BH, you uncouple this main line and couple it to the BH, causing the main line to now divert through the BH.
You could run the BH off one of the 3 remotes, but there are two down-sides to this. First is that you would need to somehow hold the remote's control lever open (in the right direction) using a bungee cord or something. Second, there is inevitably some flow restriction through the remote's valve and hoses (which happen to be 3/8").
On the other hand, this re-routable main hydraulic line is 1/2" and has no valves in the way so when the BH is coupled in there are no restrictions to full flow and pressure.
As for adding a backhoe later, the main line pipe can be replaced at any time with hoses and couplers, so I don't think you have precluded anything.
As I'm writing this, I'm realizing that it's really only the front remote that's "excessive" right now. Everything else gets used today.
canoetrpr
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hayden - looking at your setup made me wonder.
I wonder if one can buy a hydraulic block - like your tractor has at the back aftermarket. I'm not sure what it is even called.
Seems simple - has hoses coming to its inputs and quick couplers hooked to its outlet fittings.
I'm looking at getting remotes on my L3400. The factory remote setup for this tractor is not much cleaner than an aftermarket setup as in both cases the hoses connect directly to the valve.
Anybody know if a block like this can be sourced after market - or what I would call it?
I wonder if one can buy a hydraulic block - like your tractor has at the back aftermarket. I'm not sure what it is even called.
Seems simple - has hoses coming to its inputs and quick couplers hooked to its outlet fittings.
I'm looking at getting remotes on my L3400. The factory remote setup for this tractor is not much cleaner than an aftermarket setup as in both cases the hoses connect directly to the valve.
Anybody know if a block like this can be sourced after market - or what I would call it?
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hayden
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Are you talking about a block for the backhoe hookup? If so, I have one on order. It's called a selector valve and switches the flow one of two ways. There is no variable flow like in a "normal" hydraulic valve - it's just all one way or the other.
In one position the flow will be within the tractor. In the other position the flow will go out through the backhoe. Because the flow can be isolated to the tractor, it will allow for connecting/disconnecting the backhoe hydraulic hoses when the tractor is running. Once the backhoe is connected, I can switch the flow to go through the backhoe.
Is this what you are thinking of? Or am I off on a tangent?
In one position the flow will be within the tractor. In the other position the flow will go out through the backhoe. Because the flow can be isolated to the tractor, it will allow for connecting/disconnecting the backhoe hydraulic hoses when the tractor is running. Once the backhoe is connected, I can switch the flow to go through the backhoe.
Is this what you are thinking of? Or am I off on a tangent?
canoetrpr
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hayden - thats pretty neat but I was just talking about the block at the rear of your tractor that your quick disconnects are hooked up to.
The remote valve has hoses that go to the rear of the tractor and hook up to the block on the rear in one end and then at the other end of that block are the quick disconnects where your hoses from the implement cylinders hook up to.
The remote valve has hoses that go to the rear of the tractor and hook up to the block on the rear in one end and then at the other end of that block are the quick disconnects where your hoses from the implement cylinders hook up to.
