yanmar 3110d and 3810d capability and reliability

[jimb111]

Need some help on deciding which tractors (3110d and 3810d) would handle round bales of hay (Approx 1300 pounds). Also would like to get advice on reliability of the tractors. Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[normde2001]

I doubt that either would handle a 1300# bale plus the attachment to carry it, safely and easily. They weigh a little over 2900#, so you are talking more than half the tractor's weight hung several feet off the back or front. My tractor weighs 1668#, and it certainly couldn't carry 800-900# hung off the back on a regular basis, if at all.

 

[kenmac]

look at a 2620D approx. 33 hp 3813 lbs & fill rears that may put it at 3900. I have a 3110 D rears filled. Don't know much filling the rears added but I can tell a big difference.

 

[cfoxmd]

I guess the question is how far out from the back of the tractor is the 1300#s? Too much of a lever arm and there is no way without a similar torque or lever arm on the front to keep the front of the tractor on the ground. Filled tires, front weights can make a difference. It all in where the center of gravity is located and how you can manipulate it.

Doc

 

[LMTC]

You start with the assumption that one of them will, and then ask the readers "which".

First off, it's the same tractor with/without a turbo. You really should start by asking WILL either handle. And the
simple answer is not even remotely with any margin of safety. Reliability of the tractor is immaterial. Operator life will be too short for it to matter. I am dead (pun intended) serious.

 

[jimb111]

I forgot to mention that I would also have a FEL on whatever I buy and would be using the standard 3 PH with a bale spear. I was uncomfortable with the weight and all advice was very helpful.
What is the reliability of the tractors.
Thanks for every ones input.

 

[cfoxmd]

Yanmars are of very good reliability. You have to realize, however that they are used. There are grey market tractors and made for USA tractors. The made for USA tractors have good parts availability and support. The grey market tractors were made for use in Japan and are not supported by the manufacturer (at least in this country). PArts are harder to come by.

Some greys are used tractors that were originally sold in Japan and then were brought to the US after a period of use. Others have made a side trip to Vietnam for reconditioning--this process is the topic of large amounts of discussion on this board.

If you buy a common grey market tractor (some are almost orphans) there is fairly good availability. On the other hand, you need to be able to do some repairs yourself.

Prices are much lower, on average, than a comparable American tractor--this is the benefit. These tractors tend to be lighter for the HP than a comparable American tractor.

 

[thegreatrandini]

I always seem to disagree with the board but I think either tractor could do some limited moving of 1300 pound rounds...
You would have to equip your unit with counter weights etc.. Your fel would go along way toward this. You could pick up a bale with a 3 pt bale speer and move it around. I would not want to use a fel on a small tractor to stack bales without a safety cage. (which would not be practical) I have seen similar size Mahindra (which are heavy for the hp rating) move and stack large round bales.. 3810d is a pretty big unit and could take a fairly large capacity fel. I think if you were very careful and used counter weights you could move the large rounds that way also. They are not going to compare a jd 4630 or ih 1066 but you could move bales to feed a few horses etc.....

 

[Bob_Skurka]

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I'm far from an expert on the Yanmars, but my understanding is that both of those tractors are simply too small to be safe with one of those round bales. I would seriously suggest you listen to the members here who are established grey market tractor dealers/Yanmar dealers. My observation is that a lot of tractors are capable of lifting a static load but not a lot of those are capable of SAFELY transporting a load across a field. I'd seriously sit and talk to a dealer or two. Find the right machine for the job. I'd hate to be reading about you in the SAFETY forum.

 

[cfoxmd]

I agree with the safety issue. Without a ROPS, pushing the envelope in terms of weight and leverage is very risky. Probably too small a tractor, without the safety equipment needed that would be needed even with a bigger tractor.

 

[thegreatrandini]

I can pick up 800 lbs with the 3pt and cruise around all I want with a 2210. I can lift the same with fel but it really taxes the front end. Those 3810d's are quite a bit bigger than my unit. I just don't see the problem with moving 1300 lbs around. I am not saying "throw caution to the wind" but a 3810d can easily move a 1300 round bale. I think you could do some with the other unit mentioned as well.

If I were going to be moving 1300 round bales all day several times a year I would look for a bigger tractor. I would not be afraid to use a 3810d to move bale into a coral from outside a coral etc.... I don't know exactly what he needs done but if that is all he needs I would say the 3810d is a ok......

 

[normde2001]

"I can pick up 800 lbs with the 3pt and cruise around all I want with a 2210."

Is that 800# rolls of hay? These things are going to be 1500#, (bale+spear), sticking out about 8' off the back of a 2900# tractor, not the 2' as usually mentioned in lift capacity specs.

 

[thegreatrandini]

I know what u are saying but I still have no doubts of what I have said..

 

[jimb111]

Great, you are correct.
I bought a 3110d with a koyker 160 loader and the tractor will handle a large round bale (approximately 1300 Pds) comfortably. I was surprised how easily the tractor lifted the bale with the 3PH. I next gave it a bounce test by lowering the bale and doing a sudden stop with the 3PH before the bale reached the ground. This was done on level ground to see if the front was going to become airborne. The tractor remained stable. I next did the same experiment with the tractor pointed uphill on an approximate 20% grade. I was impressed as the front still did not get airborne.
I have an International 444 without a loader and the front will get airborne with a round bale on the same grade I did the experiment.
I will only move the bales intermittently with the 3110d to feed horses and when I handle bales in mass, I will use my Belarus 570 which has a Memo 500 loader and I am not concerned with a weight imbalance.
Thanks for your advice.
Jim B

 

[greatrandini]

I am glad to help. Thanks for letting me know how it worked out. I knew they could be handy! " thegreatrandini" seems to no exist. I have not been able to log on. I may have been booted. If so I hope they let me stay on this time as Greatrandini. I am not positive what happened. I seem to have offended folks but I did not mean to. I hope they are nice to you!