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...and the other side.
 

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As I mentioned above, the primary reason for the pond is for the fill. Here's where the first truckfuls are going. Tomorrow the dozer arrives and this will be graded and compacted to about 30" above the present grade.
 

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I've mentioned a few times in other threads that Florida "soil" is pretty much sand. Here's the proof. The nearly pure white sand goes down about 6', then there's a layer of semi-clay-like hard pan. Sometimes there's muck. At some point, we break through the pan and get to sand again, but it's not usually as white as this. This is really virgin soil - oops, sand.
 

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Here's the first water to trickle in. By morning, there will be a lot more. The real surprise for me was how far down the water table is, considering that 3 weeks ago, there was 6" oof water on the surface and nothing was seeping into the ground because of saturation. There is a possible explanation. The water in the drainage ditch between my land and the highway runs down about a mile to a slough (pronouced "slew"), then runs to Lake Okeechobee. The Lake is at record highs, and they did not open the flood gates on the slough until 3 weeks ago. Essentially, my land was part of the holding reservoir. Once the gates were opened, the water ran off pretty quick, and, with very hot, sunny days, no rain, no water to seep in, the water table dropped pretty quickly.

There's a lot more to that story. The lake is high because years ago, they straightened the Kissimee River to a drainage canal, draining half the state into the lake. At the same time, they diverted the flow from the lake away from the southerly swamps in order to promote agriculture - that's where sugar and winter vegetables are grown. In order to get rid of the water, they dug cross-Florida canals to the East and West of the lake and installed a series of locks. Now, when the lake is high, they release water to the East and West. The problem with that is that they are releasing fresh water in brackish estuaries, which kills the fish and other water life which depends on mild salinity. That's what happens when you fool around with nature...
 

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Here's the final progress for the first day of pond digging - perhaps 1/4 done. The final size will be roughly 10,000 square feet of surface area or so, just under 1/4 acre. It will be about 12' deep in the middle.
 

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I know what yah mean about too much water this year done. The rear of my property has been under 3-6 inches this year also. I need to have my pond cleaned out and one end made deeper. I could use the fill on the rear of the property to stop the water from my neighbors property.
 
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Don, do you have a drawing or some plans you could take a photo of or scan? This looks like a really interesting long-term project and I'd like to see what you have planned when things are "complete."

Your sand and layered soil looks very much like my own. I have deep erosion gullys, and I see layers of white sand and red clay that are 6' to 8' thick. If I couldn't see your tropical trees, I wouldn't guess Florida at all. ...just shows you what I know. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Your progress is really exciting. Please keep those pictures and good descriptions coming. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Jim. the drawing for this project is found in just one place - on the ground. For several months, waiting for the rains to end, I had been looking at the property from every angle, and looking at other people's ponds. I knew pretty much what I wanted and could picutre how it would look.

So, the evening before this was to start, I walked out with a couple of cans of orange marker paint and one of the trigger thingies that places the can close to the ground, and drew my pond "full scale". I knew that I wanted a somewhat irregular shape to try to make it look more natural, but some of the bumps and jogs I drew were too sharp to be executed with the slopes, and the drawing was "revised" on the spot when the hoe started skimming the grass. So, you could say that the final shape was sculpted rather than drawn...but, essentially, it's a little like a 1/4 acre amoeba, with the shape determined by proximilty to the surrounding trees and palms.

I'm not even certain of the actual size - while they were skimming it, I sorta walked from here to there, and then from halfway around from there to half way around from here, counted paces and converted to feet, multiplied one against the other with an imaginary fudge factor to acount for irregular shapes, and came up with the possibility that it was less than 11,000 square feet but more than 9,000 sq ft, so I called it 10,000.

Here's the pix from Friday. The night before I showed a tiny trickle of water and said there's be more in the morning. Sure enough, there was more the next day. Remember, whiile rainfall might produce a slight increase in water depth, the water in this pond will come naturally from the water table, and later from the well to keep it at a constant level.
 

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In the meatime, while the dump truck stacks up loads of fill for the house pad, the contractor brought in an articulated wheel loader and started moving excess dirt form where the trash was buried to the road. This isn't necessarily the most efficient way to do it, but the loader and operator were available for the day (in between other jobs), so the contractor put her to work "bucketing" the fill. I'm paying a flat rate per ubic yard no matter how much equipment is around, so I don't really care how efficient it is.
 

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She's building the road up in stages - she's put down 8" to 10" on the first pass, and repeatedly traveled over it to compact it. Then, they'll add another layer and grade it with the dozer, which will also compact it pretty well. The final will be about 12" above the current level. Later, I'll add about 6" of shell rock to stabilize it. That will have to be trucked in.
 

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