Your time is not free

[SPYDERLK]

boys, if you are doing your own work; slow down, you'll make more money.
Why finish in 4 hours and only make $360 when you could drink a few more beers and go 8 hours and make $720 and have more beer money.

Reading through this thread has cost me about two hours, but it was worth a grand of fun !!

...So reading all this funny sh*t made me a $815 profit (that includes computer depreciation, electricity consumption and a beer)

I sat down an came up with a list of things i can't afford anymore.

8 hours sleep - $720
watching a football game - $360
Going to a movie- $180 plus popcorn ......Yikes!

Sorry little Jimmy, but watching your ball game costs me $270.......I'll have to pass.

[[Wait....what the heck am I doing]]....Who's stupid idea was this anyway?

Anyone mind if I just go back to having fun?

Yeah. Lets not twist around the OPs concept. Disagreement does not mean disrespect.
larry

 

[smstonypoint]

Yeah. Lets not twist around the OPs concept. Disagreement does not mean disrespect.
larry

I agree. Many of the posts on this thread fixated on the OP's use of $90/hour. That was his opportunity cost of working on his project. He never claimed that $ figure should be used by anyone else. As a consequence of this fixation, many posters apparently missed his point.

Steve

 

[harpoonalt]

Yeah. Lets not twist around the OPs concept. Disagreement does not mean disrespect.
larry

Free time is not free. Using the op's concept, my post is valid. If he values his time at $90 an hour leisure activities, family time cost him that as well. Using humor, maybe poorly, I meant to point out that fact. A few of the op's comments could be construed as disrespectful as well but I took them as good natured ribbing. I get what he's trying to say, even agree, just my version isn't so strict. Larry, you owe me $20 for this reply.

 

[doall]

No point missed, in an earlier post I stated that what I thought he meant was that if you spend $100 on a homemade box blade or whatever, You really have more than $100 in it if you count your time. Is this right?
No more disrespect here than from the other side. I hate being talked down to. But I think everybody's ok. It seems like some couldn't see the side that; it doesn't matter what the opportunity cost is if you only have the $100 though. That's real cost.

 

[SensibleNick]

Given that the OP said he'd rather go boating )(if I remember right) than spend time building stuff, I assumed him to mean simply that he'd rather pay more for the things he *could* do himself, and save the time to do things he'd rather do.

The $90 I saw as arbitrary.. I also understood his statement to be along the lines of "you'd all rather do something else than build stuff or fix stuff".

Well.. I don't own a boat, I don't fish, and have have a missus who'd rather I was messing about in the workshop instead of drinking beer with mates and watching TV or something other waste of time. (because she knows that makes me happier)

I consider making stuff and repairing stuff to be Excellent fun, I'd often rather spend time making my own things and maintaining my own things than forking out for someone else to do it. That way I get to have fun, and also know it has been done properly.

There is little in the world that gives me more pleasure than *making* something. It's like a little spark of magic every time I look at a tool or machine that works and get to say (even if only to myself) "I made that..."

It's even nicer when the gloating wee git on my shoulder whispers "And someone else would have probably paid twenty times more to get one of half the quality"

Just my 2 Kronor

 

[BethesdaEC]

Anyone mind if I just go back to having fun?

I don't know. Can you afford it?

 

[DRL]

"Disagreement does not mean disrespect"
Since when, in this land of free speech(for now), does speaking you mind get misconstrued as disrespect. Its disrespect only if it was meant that way, not if some third party took it that way.

DRL

 

[jgrreed]

"Disagreement does not mean disrespect"
Since when, in this land of free speech(for now), does speaking you mind get misconstrued as disrespect. Its disrespect only if it was meant that way, not if some third party took it that way.

DRL

DRL - I haven't looked through all of your comments specifically, but I do agree with SPYDER-man that there has been a fair bit of disrespect on this thread. That's what's incited most of my 'excited' responses. There on some posts on this thread that are, without question, meant to be disrespectful. This is not what TBN is to be about, and it's sad to see.

-Jer.

 

[joes_427_vette]

Well, Thought I would catch you up on ther latest... My dog received an " Over Draft " notice from the bank. We have an appointment at the pet food store to try out a cheaper ( more economical ) brand of food. Scrap steel is back to .38 cents a pound. We will be cutting up previous projects to make new ones ( hope we don't miss the old prototypes ). Were capturing swamp ( methane ) gas for the oxy/ act torch to lower expenses. I'm going to have to put up a sign ( Labor Rate $10.00 an hour ) as soon as i can afford the wood / paint to construct it. Family and relative rates remain unchanged $00.00 per hour which is 98% of my work load.
Here is hoping the president makes the necessary " CHANGES " he has been yaping about to build a better America. I would settle for the old one where people were paid less, enjoyed life more, and were less hung up on new fangled machines that removed creativity and individualism.

 

[o2batsea]

Free time is not free. Using the op's concept, my post is valid. If he values his time at $90 an hour leisure activities, family time cost him that as well. Using humor, maybe poorly, I meant to point out that fact. A few of the op's comments could be construed as disrespectful as well but I took them as good natured ribbing. I get what he's trying to say, even agree, just my version isn't so strict. Larry, you owe me $20 for this reply.

You missed the whole concept. Never wrote nor implied that my leisure activities are worth $90/hr.
Fabricating a tool/implement that is to be used to do a job/chore around the house/barn is valued at $90/hr minimum. I cannot count that as "fun" or "hobby" time if it is going towards grounds maintenance or upkeep or the like. It has to be considered as part of the expense of the property, even if I am sorta liking it. If it was a hobby, I would be making stuff merely for the **** of it. Like doing Jigsaw puzzles. I would not do a jigsaw puzzle because I was thinking I was going to sell it when I was done. I don't think many of us are building implements and tools for the **** of it. I mean it would be pointless to build a backhoe just cause you love to build stuff if you just left it sit unused once you were done. Clearly you would build it because you wanted to use it for WORKING.
Can't see why that is so hard to understand.