YT235 down again!

[kco]

A Yanmar representative was at the dealership yesterday, walked around the tractor, and came to no decisions.

The fact that he showed up is a good sign. Hopefully he had a good discussion with your dealer. Perhaps he does not have authority to make the decision and needs approval from higher up. You and your dealer have been reasonable and patient. It is obvious there is a serious problem or combination of problems that are too complex to fix. And perhaps the previous unsuccessful repairs just prolonged and worsened the true problem, which may now be "unfixable".

Yanmar higher-ups should realise how damaging this can be to their North American reputation. Tractorbynet has a huge following and influence. It is the main reason I ended up purchasing my Kioti in 2011. I had never heard of Kioti and was looking at Deere and Kubota. I had concerns about Kioti unknowns such as support and reliability. This site eased those concerns.

It seems that most Yanmar owners are very positive about their tractors. Yanmar needs to step up and resolve this quickly and completely to show they are serious about supporting their dealers and products.

Hopefully that will happen very soon.

C'mon Yanmar Corporation--we're all watching.

 

[Mauser12]

The fact that he showed up is a good sign. Hopefully he had a good discussion with your dealer. Perhaps he does not have authority to make the decision and needs approval from higher up. You and your dealer have been reasonable and patient. It is obvious there is a serious problem or combination of problems that are too complex to fix. And perhaps the previous unsuccessful repairs just prolonged and worsened the true problem, which may now be "unfixable".

Yanmar higher-ups should realise how damaging this can be to their North American reputation. Tractorbynet has a huge following and influence. It is the main reason I ended up purchasing my Kioti in 2011. I had never heard of Kioti and was looking at Deere and Kubota. I had concerns about Kioti unknowns such as support and reliability. This site eased those concerns.

It seems that most Yanmar owners are very positive about their tractors. Yanmar needs to step up and resolve this quickly and completely to show they are serious about supporting their dealers and products.

Hopefully that will happen very soon.

C'mon Yanmar Corporation--we're all watching.

I think you are exactly right with all of your statements. And, thanks for the positive comments. I am really concerned that the engine will prematurely fail because of the many times the oil has been diluted with diesel. I have expressed those concerns in writing to Yanmar America and verbally to one Yanmar representative. The dealer has also talked to multiple corporate representatives in Georgia expressing the same concern. So far nobody is listening. I just don't understand a corporate philosophy that throws parts at an issue without fixing the underlying problem. In the long run, it will cost them more both in money and reputation.

 

[fried1765]

The fact that he showed up is a good sign. Hopefully he had a good discussion with your dealer. Perhaps he does not have authority to make the decision and needs approval from higher up. You and your dealer have been reasonable and patient. It is obvious there is a serious problem or combination of problems that are too complex to fix. And perhaps the previous unsuccessful repairs just prolonged and worsened the true problem, which may now be "unfixable".

Yanmar higher-ups should realise how damaging this can be to their North American reputation. Tractorbynet has a huge following and influence. It is the main reason I ended up purchasing my Kioti in 2011. I had never heard of Kioti and was looking at Deere and Kubota. I had concerns about Kioti unknowns such as support and reliability. This site eased those concerns.

It seems that most Yanmar owners are very positive about their tractors. Yanmar needs to step up and resolve this quickly and completely to show they are serious about supporting their dealers and products.

Hopefully that will happen very soon.

C'mon Yanmar Corporation--we're all watching.

And .......as Yanmar corporate so eloquently responded in post #41.....

"Have a good day"

 

[kthompson]

Hi Kenneth,

As previously stated, the RSM and the dealer are aware of situation and working on resolving this. Thank you for your comment and have a good day!

I am only guessing this was addressed to me as my first name is Kenneth and I sent them an email as a potential Yanmar buyer which I was and still considering very much. Not sure why they posted that there and not email back to me. Them doing do does not upset me. It is a YT359 with cab and loader. My concerns as with any tractor is support first and foremost. First there is not but one dealership within an hour of me (in same radius there are 3 JD, 3 Kubota, 2 ND and 1 Kioti and another new Mahrinda. Also the Yanmar dealerships I know of have not been a dealer for them long and not experienced tractor dealerships. NO DOUBT that is not true for all of their dealerships for to me Yanmar product line fits such as Case or NH dealerships right well.

I am very much still deciding on a tractor and this thread really concerns me with Yanmar. It is their tractor and their dealer. If they think or can proof it is the owners fault (I have no reason to think it is nor have I gotten that impression from anywhere.) they have responsibilty to explaining what is being done wrong or educating him on the tractor. That to me falls on the dealership.)

As to the lemon signs, had a friend who did that many years ago with a car. Not sure it helped any. Than I had same brand and no problems.

 

[Mauser12]

I am only guessing this was addressed to me as my first name is Kenneth and I sent them an email as a potential Yanmar buyer which I was and still considering very much. Not sure why they posted that there and not email back to me. Them doing do does not upset me. It is a YT359 with cab and loader. My concerns as with any tractor is support first and foremost. First there is not but one dealership within an hour of me (in same radius there are 3 JD, 3 Kubota, 2 ND and 1 Kioti and another new Mahrinda. Also the Yanmar dealerships I know of have not been a dealer for them long and not experienced tractor dealerships. NO DOUBT that is not true for all of their dealerships for to me Yanmar product line fits such as Case or NH dealerships right well.

I am very much still deciding on a tractor and this thread really concerns me with Yanmar. It is their tractor and their dealer. If they think or can proof it is the owners fault (I have no reason to think it is nor have I gotten that impression from anywhere.) they have responsibilty to explaining what is being done wrong or educating him on the tractor. That to me falls on the dealership.)

As to the lemon signs, had a friend who did that many years ago with a car. Not sure it helped any. Than I had same brand and no problems.

I am currently waiting on next week. I have a promise from the senior service manager that they will make a decision on the problems with the tractor next week. I talked to the senior service manager in Georgia last week again. The dealer has told me that they may tear the bottom of the engine apart to inspect the damage caused by the oil being diluted with fuel four times. They may rebuild the bottom of the engine? My contact at the dealer wants to put a new engine in the tractor. His belief is that they will have to eventually because of the dilution. There has been no mention of the transmission being dry multiple times when the hydraulic system burst. I will post the resolution when/if it happens. I have never had to deal with these kind of warranty issues on any product before. I think the consumer is going to be left out in the rain any time the people makeing the decisions on what to do are the very ones that it will cost money or effect their jobs. Good luck with your tractor purchase.

 

[rScotty]

I am only guessing this was addressed to me as my first name is Kenneth and I sent them an email as a potential Yanmar buyer which I was and still considering very much. Not sure why they posted that there and not email back to me. Them doing do does not upset me. It is a YT359 with cab and loader. My concerns as with any tractor is support first and foremost. First there is not but one dealership within an hour of me (in same radius there are 3 JD, 3 Kubota, 2 ND and 1 Kioti and another new Mahrinda. Also the Yanmar dealerships I know of have not been a dealer for them long and not experienced tractor dealerships. NO DOUBT that is not true for all of their dealerships for to me Yanmar product line fits such as Case or NH dealerships right well.

I am very much still deciding on a tractor and this thread really concerns me with Yanmar. It is their tractor and their dealer. If they think or can proof it is the owners fault (I have no reason to think it is nor have I gotten that impression from anywhere.) they have responsibilty to explaining what is being done wrong or educating him on the tractor. That to me falls on the dealership.)

As to the lemon signs, had a friend who did that many years ago with a car. Not sure it helped any. Than I had same brand and no problems.

I think that the whole industry benefits from having a lot of brands to choose from. But smaller dealers may not have the technical resources and factory backing that more established dealers enjoy.

Before buying any brand tractor from any dealer I would advise a buyer to talk with the dealer and decide who is responsible for transporting the tractor for warranty work and when a loaner tractor is appropriate. Write your agreement right on the sales contract - both parties then sign and date. This will save a lot of debate and finger-pointing.
rScotty

 

[kthompson]

Mauser12, This has to be highly aggravating. It is amazing a single tractor could have such different issues. It is amazing a reliable company would not be more supportive to THEIR dealer. (I hit submit without meaning to and had to edit to finish.) I am in no way accusing Mauser12 of anything improper. If I were a dealer would wonder about a product if the best support they could give was this.

Few years back, maybe five to seven bought a stihl saw and had issue with it over and over. The straw that broke the bank with me was when the dealership told me the saw was burnt up and would not be warrantied. What caused that was my question. Well running straight gas or blocking the air intake. He said we know it is not the gas for you have had it here enough we know you use properly mixed oil and gas. So only possible issue was my blocking the air intake when using the saw. Turns out the dealer had adjusted the carb on one of the times in the shop and had told me that. I told the mechanic I promise you I will get my worth out of this saw. I sent email to Stihl directly with all details and short story they told dealer to take care of me. Stihl made a long time customer out of me the way they handled the issue. I have bought other Stihl since then and pleased very much. I feel like Yanmar failed to trust their dealership in what they were finding for some reason. If I were the regional rep would want to "see"one of our tractors with such a variety of issues. Would want to talk with the owner and the mechanics to try to help with figuring out the variety of issues. Then take that info back to the factory. Then I only work with Quality Control for a major equipment company for about nine years. Can tell you we sure would have gotten feedback.

Mauser12, will be watching for your post. Hopes all get solved for you very soon. The longer such takes the more it takes to "MAKE" it right.

 

[kthompson]

I understood Yanmar USA had bought this company but this site is not stating that I found. Regardless it is a product they now have at least to offer. Some things about it I liked but to me not as refined as Yanmar or JD or Kubota.

Solis: A New Tractor Brand Distributed by Yanmar We Couldn’t Fit Anywhere | Compact Equipment

 

[paulfun9]

A while back I looked at a new YT cab. Before the test run on the dealers lot was complete it had already showed error on the dash, not inspiring! Decided to hold off and getting very close to resuming my search for a new cab tractor. I will tell everyone that with support given for the problem machine like this poster has even with my chances of getting the exact same issues is more important to me than how they handle the little things.

Switching out the bucket to lighten the load, so lines don’t burst?
Mechanics telling the owner not to transport material that doesn’t even come close to working the loader as a bounce could bust the line.
Waiting on parts over and over again.
The same issue fuel in oil, without proper diagnosis.
Not letting the dealership properly troubleshoot problems
Or sending out a specialist from the factory to diagnose or fix it (has happend more than most really know)
Then the post here gives me the feeling that they simply said FU to the poster as they apparently didn’t even address him directly!

If it was me the tractor would be on the trailer with the lemon signs on it,
My attorney would be doing his end in the courts
And everyone I know would hear how poor the machine is built and how lacking the customer support is and how crappy the machine has been.


I don’t have a tractor that hasn’t transported a fair load in the bucket and even hitting a bounce from time to time not one, not even the other brand that I will no longer buy has blown lines from it.

The same issue should not keep reoccurring if the problem was properly diagnosed and repaired by a real mechanic that didn’t have his/her hands tied by a corporate bean counter.

One thing for sure is they won’t be on my shopping list this spring when I resume looking for a new cab tractor


Speaking of the lemon signs, I have an acquaintance who did that with a car.
The dealership tried to sue him for defamation or something like that. He beat them on the grounds of free speech so it cost them a law suit and since he didn’t stop driving around with the signs and car on the trailer they eventually succumbed to the pressure and refunded his money.
At this point I wouldn’t want to take an other tractor as thier business practices have proven way too bad to be considered at all. Force a refund and buy something else!

 

[Gator6x4]

A while back I looked at a new YT cab. Before the test run on the dealers lot was complete it had already showed error on the dash, not inspiring! Decided to hold off and getting very close to resuming my search for a new cab tractor. I will tell everyone that with support given for the problem machine like this poster has even with my chances of getting the exact same issues is more important to me than how they handle the little things.

Switching out the bucket to lighten the load, so lines don’t burst?
Mechanics telling the owner not to transport material that doesn’t even come close to working the loader as a bounce could bust the line.
Waiting on parts over and over again.
The same issue fuel in oil, without proper diagnosis.
Not letting the dealership properly troubleshoot problems
Or sending out a specialist from the factory to diagnose or fix it (has happend more than most really know)
Then the post here gives me the feeling that they simply said FU to the poster as they apparently didn’t even address him directly!

If it was me the tractor would be on the trailer with the lemon signs on it,
My attorney would be doing his end in the courts
And everyone I know would hear how poor the machine is built and how lacking the customer support is and how crappy the machine has been.


I don’t have a tractor that hasn’t transported a fair load in the bucket and even hitting a bounce from time to time not one, not even the other brand that I will no longer buy has blown lines from it.

The same issue should not keep reoccurring if the problem was properly diagnosed and repaired by a real mechanic that didn’t have his/her hands tied by a corporate bean counter.

One thing for sure is they won’t be on my shopping list this spring when I resume looking for a new cab tractor


Speaking of the lemon signs, I have an acquaintance who did that with a car.
The dealership tried to sue him for defamation or something like that. He beat them on the grounds of free speech so it cost them a law suit and since he didn’t stop driving around with the signs and car on the trailer they eventually succumbed to the pressure and refunded his money.
At this point I wouldn’t want to take an other tractor as thier business practices have proven way too bad to be considered at all. Force a refund and buy something else!

Agree. A new Cab Tractor would be nice but, after reading the OP Problems and Yanmars response I definitely would drive by the Yanmar Lot if I was looking.

 

[kthompson]

Mauser12, could not help but wonder if Rep made it by dealership last week as expected and or any updates or progress with your tractor?

Went by nearest dealer Friday to look back at the YT359, still like it the most between JD 4066r and Kubota L6060 for the total package and pricing. Your tractor still makes me question the Yanmar. The JD and Kubota dealerships are nearer, been dealerships many many years. Also have JD and Kubotas (for another dealership that closed due to owners passing) and know not perfect but near enough for me.

 

[TnAndy]

Just waded thru the whole thread. Wow ! I had several mickey mouse problems with my LX410 (2011 model) which I've documented in threads in this forum, but they were NOTHING compared to this goat roping. Honestly, I would have laughed in the face of someone that said bouncing a bucket across a field will cause lines to burst...such pure BS. They simply bought some dead cheap lines from a parts subcontractor and need to own that fact.

I put logs on my front forks too heavy for the hydraulics to even lift, (like a 20- 24" diameter x 16' long green oak log) and "bounce" them up by goosing the tractor forward while holding back the stick....lift picks up 4-6" at a time as the log bounces upward, and holding the stick back keeps it suspended. I do this to get them up on a log deck to roll into my swmill.

IS this a good idea ?....well of course not, and if I break something doing it, I won't blame anybody but me for abusing it.....but guess what...never broke a line or anything else so far in nearly 10 years of doing this ! (Ya'll feel free to heap on some abuse now..... )


My local dealer (a Ford/New Holland dealer for 30-40 years) took on Yanmar right before I bought mine, and ended their dealership with Yanmar a couple years later. This attitude of Yanmar might explain some of that, as all I ever got from the dealer was "irreconsilable differences" for the divorce. Funny thing is about a year or so after I bought mine, dealer called to ask if I would host a van load of Japanese engineers visiting the dealership for an afternoon of what I thought about the tractor. I agreed, and spent that night writing up a several page list of things they could do to make a fairly good tractor into a GREAT tractor.....things I've documented over the years here.

They were all smiles and polite, and I got a size M tee-shirt that no way fits me, but my wife still wears from time to time, and that was all I ever heard back. I did run into one of the engineers at a Mother Earth fair in Asheville, NC and was looking at the new red paint tractors (mine has yellow/black, a holdover from their days with Cub Cadet). I remarked "well, see you changed this or that, but this and that still need work." Polite smile again. Oh well.......you can lead a horse to water, but can't make 'em drink. You'd think feedback from end users would be almost priceless in product improvement and future growth.

One thing interesting when they were at my place, they wanted to know which internet websites I visited about tractors/farm stuff, and I told them this one first. They were very familiar with it, so they do read this site.

One of the reasons I photo and document the heck out of things I've had to do to mine....so they see it, as well as maybe it offers some tips to other folks with issues. IF I could say anything about posting here, TAKE LOTS OF PHOTOS OF STUFF AND POST THEM....(not just yanmar) because photos really are worth a 1000 words.....and the whole point of this Al Gore invention is communication.

 

[kthompson]

Wanted to update my search for a tractor which this thread did play a part in, really a major part.

I am retiring from farming and selling my farm equipment and moving to a compact tractor such as the Yanmar YT359 which honestly was and is still the tractor I liked the most. Was looking at JD 4066R, Kubota L6060 and Yanmar YT359. With cab and fel. Want rear remotes which Yanmar is standard but about $2,000 extra cost. Liked the transmission a lot and cab. The side rear windows are something JD does not have nor does the MX Kubota. Using the doors for ventilation on mild days is to me just dangerous.

Why I am not going with Yanmar: I find it hard to grasp a tractor having this many issues. If it is all owner or operators fault have honest talk with them and if they need training or how to do it! I really thought we would have heard this issue would have been solved but not hearing from the OP now makes me wonder why. Had Yanmar basically said shut up and we fix it? Have no idea. Not saying that is what is going on. Just know the OP is amazing quite. Taking that into consideration also have given hard look at the dealers any where near me. The dealer I would be working with are great people. However they are totally new to tractors as to selling and servicing. They are farm raised but still only been a tractor dealer for about a year. Then if something happens with them next dealership is over two hours away. Even then they are some of those give me no confidence. I have always recommend you study the dealership you plan to buy from and then consider should something happen to them where is other dealerships. If something were to happen to the dealership would be buying from the options would not be convenient and some of those are not impressive at all.

Kubota did a very good job bringing their product (small tractors) to established tractor dealerships. In my part of the world many Massey, Case and New Holland dealerships became Kubota dealerships. Amazes me with the true tractor dealerships who have no product to sell due to mergers, Yanmar has not "one" of the few establish dealerships I know.

It came to the point I wonder about the future of Yanmar with the dealerships I am aware of. Hopefully my concerns are not valid for they build a good if not a great product but a great product with no support is not a valuable to me as a good product with great support. BTW I think Kubota and JD are great products with great support. Now saying that even as current JD owner not a fan of JD 5000E models. Hear more issues with them than all other JD models.

Mauser, hope your tractor has been taken care of.

 

[tier4]

so here we go again bashing the Manufacture for some thing most people on here have no clue as to what is going on MAUSER12 has not made a post in about 20 days how about asking him what is going on with his tractor before you make statements that may or ,may not be true. but as usual that's not how the internet game is played, it`s more non information than fact.

 

[rScotty]

Wanted to update my search for a tractor which this thread did play a part in, really a major part.

I am retiring from farming and selling my farm equipment and moving to a compact tractor such as the Yanmar YT359 which honestly was and is still the tractor I liked the most. Was looking at JD 4066R, Kubota L6060 and Yanmar YT359. With cab and fel. Want rear remotes which Yanmar is standard but about $2,000 extra cost. Liked the transmission a lot and cab. The side rear windows are something JD does not have nor does the MX Kubota. Using the doors for ventilation on mild days is to me just dangerous.

Why I am not going with Yanmar: I find it hard to grasp a tractor having this many issues. If it is all owner or operators fault have honest talk with them and if they need training or how to do it! I really thought we would have heard this issue would have been solved but not hearing from the OP now makes me wonder why. Had Yanmar basically said shut up and we fix it? Have no idea. Not saying that is what is going on. Just know the OP is amazing quite. Taking that into consideration also have given hard look at the dealers any where near me. The dealer I would be working with are great people. However they are totally new to tractors as to selling and servicing. They are farm raised but still only been a tractor dealer for about a year. Then if something happens with them next dealership is over two hours away. Even then they are some of those give me no confidence. I have always recommend you study the dealership you plan to buy from and then consider should something happen to them where is other dealerships. If something were to happen to the dealership would be buying from the options would not be convenient and some of those are not impressive at all.

Kubota did a very good job bringing their product (small tractors) to established tractor dealerships. In my part of the world many Massey, Case and New Holland dealerships became Kubota dealerships. Amazes me with the true tractor dealerships who have no product to sell due to mergers, Yanmar has not "one" of the few establish dealerships I know.

It came to the point I wonder about the future of Yanmar with the dealerships I am aware of. Hopefully my concerns are not valid for they build a good if not a great product but a great product with no support is not a valuable to me as a good product with great support. BTW I think Kubota and JD are great products with great support. Now saying that even as current JD owner not a fan of JD 5000E models. Hear more issues with them than all other JD models.

Mauser, hope your tractor has been taken care of.

OK. I've gotta say this.
I've been around Yanmar since back in the 1980s. Their quality & innovation is what attracted me from the first- that and reading about how their company philosophy works in Japan to do things like smelting and casting thier own alloys and putting so much of R&D into new methods of agriculture. They are apparently innovative and committed. At least they are in Japan. But I've also seen that the things that make Yanmar regarded as a manufacturer of the best top tier products thoughout the world has not translated into tractor dealerships in the USA.

All you have to do to convince yourself of their quality is to take one apart. Look at the insides and make your own decisions. I climbed the ladder from mechanic, welder, machinist, to college and mechanical engineering and have a lifetime of looking at manufacture. But any journeyman mechanic will see the same. It's just nice to look at things like seals, bearing support, and machining and think, "Yes! Now that's how it ought to be done."

But we keep running into the same problem: i.e. The quality and innovation that has made Yanmar tops in the world in so many areas - including marine diesels, small agriculture, and cutting edge aquaculture.... all those things have not translated to their US tractor operation.

As far as the problems with the YT235 in this thread, I wouldn't personally put to much emphasis based on one account. I'll be frank - and I've posted this before - but something about that whole story doesn't make sense to me. I'm just not buying it in total until I know a bit more. Partly it was the broken hydraulic lines combined with the broken 3pt arms. Put those two together and it sure sounds to me like abuse. Both are common failures modes caused by banging the tractor around too fast over rough terrain with a full load would be my bet. Hydraulic shock does the rest and is the cause of the final damage up front. Simple abrupt momentum changes can cause the 3pt damage. They aren't built for that. There are pressure and shearing limits to even the best tubing, fittings hoses and arms. About the only way to exceed the material specs is to combine load and velocity. i.e. sudden impacts. So Is it abuse? Who know? Could be. It's a "he said/she said" kinda thing. But it does color the story for me.

What else did he say? Oh...the fuel in the oil. Well, that's a different type problem. That is something that is documentable, a real warranty problem, and one that one would expect to be handled immediately by the dealer and Yanmar working together. They clearly didn't - or not aggressively enough. How much of that is owner, and how much dealer and Yanmar is not clear. But if the OPs response to being dismissed like that was to take off across the pasture too fast and too loaded and break something ..... I'm not so sure I wouldn't feel the same. So even if so, I can't get too far down on a guy for doing what I might do in the same circumstance....

But if you ask me if all the above would cause me to reject a larger cabbed model from Yanmar on the strength on one side of one guy's story? Well, probably not....
Like I said, there's got to be another side. And they sure do build some nice top notch tractors. As does Kubota of course. And half a dozen other brands build perfectly suitable tractors, too.
rScotty

 

[Kiwibru]

Gee, one bad example does not ruin the whole line of tractors does it? I have had nothing but good work out of my YT359C and no problems. You can find lemons in any group of manufactured products. Hopefully Yanmar US is learning something and bellying up to the bar to make sure it is not happening across the whole line of tractors.

 

[Blue14]

You need to go on (Mauser12) forum posts from March,April,May June 2018 and you will see he had a new Mahindra Max 26XL that he was making payments on and coincidentally he had a lot of the same problems with the Mahindra that he supposedly is having with the Yanmar. I smell a scam. Wouldn't be the first time somebody comes on a public forum claiming to have a lemon to get out from under the payments or get a new tractor out of it by simply beating the crap out of the machine then maligns the manufacture in the court of public opinion on the internet.

 

[kthompson]

Sorry if you think I am bashing Yanmar quality. I have said hard to believe a tractor having this much problems. I have also said if the operator is the issue the company and dealer has some responsibility to educated them on proper operation. I stand by those thoughts. FYI I had gone back and read the post on his previous tractor, sounded similar to these. HOWEVER, Yanmar's reputation is what stands to suffer more so than any person does from such, I think. Therefore to me they need to work to protect their reputation in any reasonable way. Tell me why they could not post something in this thread themselves if they found abuse to be an issue? Realize they would have to be very tactful and careful in their wording. What would be wrong their saying something like: "we are pleased our rep was able to meet with the OP and the dealer and were able to determine the cause of the issues and work with the OP on the capabilities of the machine and safe working guidelines"?

But let me be very very clear, looking only one dealership within about 100 miles of me is amazing and some have very little true tractor experience. Just does not give me the confidence I want for such as a tractor. A $500 tv okay. A $40,000 machine that should last twenty years or even longer their network at this time does not give me that confidence to make that gamble. As to the tractor itself I have done my best to do an honest comparison of it with a JD 4066R and Kubota L6060 and the Yanmar YT359 is the machine I prefer, period. It came down to how short of time the dealer has been a tractor dealer, basically a very nice lawn mower dealership with Yanmar tractors for about a year. I really respect the dealership and those who own and run it. Yet they are the ONLY dealership within a hundred miles of me. When LS and Mahrinda are able to find establish tractor dealers and yes some had lost their product line due to mergers in the same area but Yanmar is not succeeding. That is why I am passing on Yanmar.

It would really be great if the OP or Yanmar or both to fill in the missing info. Doubt it happens.

 

[rScotty]

Sorry if you think I am bashing Yanmar quality. I have said hard to believe a tractor having this much problems. I have also said if the operator is the issue the company and dealer has some responsibility to educated them on proper operation. I stand by those thoughts. FYI I had gone back and read the post on his previous tractor, sounded similar to these. HOWEVER, Yanmar's reputation is what stands to suffer more so than any person does from such, I think. Therefore to me they need to work to protect their reputation in any reasonable way. Tell me why they could not post something in this thread themselves if they found abuse to be an issue? Realize they would have to be very tactful and careful in their wording. What would be wrong their saying something like: "we are pleased our rep was able to meet with the OP and the dealer and were able to determine the cause of the issues and work with the OP on the capabilities of the machine and safe working guidelines"?

But let me be very very clear, looking only one dealership within about 100 miles of me is amazing and some have very little true tractor experience. Just does not give me the confidence I want for such as a tractor. A $500 tv okay. A $40,000 machine that should last twenty years or even longer their network at this time does not give me that confidence to make that gamble. As to the tractor itself I have done my best to do an honest comparison of it with a JD 4066R and Kubota L6060 and the Yanmar YT359 is the machine I prefer, period. It came down to how short of time the dealer has been a tractor dealer, basically a very nice lawn mower dealership with Yanmar tractors for about a year. I really respect the dealership and those who own and run it. Yet they are the ONLY dealership within a hundred miles of me. When LS and Mahrinda are able to find establish tractor dealers and yes some had lost their product line due to mergers in the same area but Yanmar is not succeeding. That is why I am passing on Yanmar.

It would really be great if the OP or Yanmar or both to fill in the missing info. Doubt it happens.

Fair enough, and well said. I don't think that I implied that you were bashing Yanmar quality. Did you read it that way? Did others? It wasn't at all what I meant to say.

I will say that I am less concerned about having a convenient dealer than others may be. I've bought several new tractors and never had a reason to take one back to the dealer - although I have had a couple of times when it helped to have the dealer's mechanic bring out their service truck. But that is - or should be - part of the sales agreement when you sign it.

Anything that needs attention is likely to happen in the first year or two. After that, most all tractors are bulletproof for the next few decades.
So if I had one dealership that was fairly close that would be good enough for me. Especially if they seemed to care.

I think that we all agree that the national organization needs to step up to the plate. And especially they need to do that when there isn't a convenient local dealer. To me that includes working to enhance their reputation on this type of social media.
rScotty

 

[kthompson]

rScotty, agree with your post.

My biggest concern with the Yanmar is dealership or dealerships. The only dealer that is any closer to me I do not think has a true tractor or diesel mechanic. They have only been a tractor dealer for at most 1 1/2 years. That is not much of track record. That is why the post here on Yanmar rep concerns me. If the dealership were to fail for any reason what am i left with?

However, even though my wife does not like the Yanmar...gold rims need to be painted black being one. lol Not sure she cares for the shade of red they have either. Does not match our ruby red pickup, again, lol. Cab is not as nice as JD. She will trust my judgement after all I chose her many years ago. I am going to have one more conversation with the dealer. I owe them that. Maybe they can handle my concerns or not but they deserve that.