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Mine didn't do that. What it would do is if I moved the tab "up" a little bit and then stopped, the 3pt arms would keep going up. If I moved the tab "down" a little bit, the arms wouldn't stop until they were all the way down. You couldn't just move the arms a little bit, no matter how little...

That's the point. They don't want you to own one, period. "You'll own nothing and be happy."

The 4700 series tractors come standard with radial tires and should not be "loaded" with anything. While my 4707 has the wheel weights, they don't come close to adding enough ballast, so I made a "do all" 3pt hitch attachment that I can quickly back up to and lift a concrete counter weight that...

The 3pt hitch controls were all wonky, the cab sprung a coolant leak, and the hood doesn't like staying up on its own. The dealership sort of fixed the first issue (but it's not perfect, just good enough) and the leak, but never did take care of the hood.

Nope.

The air seat is worth every penny.

Yeah, I noticed that. Yuck. Don't get me wrong, I like innovation and we as humans have gotten to the technology level that we're at by trying new things and experiencing trial and error. Having said that, some ideas just don't make sense for the application. A fully electric plug-in tractor...

Did I read that article correctly when it said the tractor will follow someone who is walking and stop when the person gets too close or signals the tractor to stop? Yeah...no thanks. I've drilled into my kids for years to never be directly in front or behind a tractor or other piece of...

7,340lbs

Yep. 100hp and 18,000lbs of weight. My dad was commenting on yellow machinery vs. farm tractors with loaders and he said, "No matter how rugged a farm tractor is with a loader, you still have to be careful. A (yellow machine) doesn't care either way." Everything is better built when it's...

On our farm, we have a bunch of tractors and equipment to do all the things and chores that need to be done. From digging holes and trenches, to handling material (we have a small screening plant to make screened loam), to just whatever. The best thing we have for digging holes and trenches is...

IMO, the FL loader is worth every penny. Smooth controls, strong performance, soft-ride built in, and pre-plumbed for a 3rd function. Glad I got one on my 4707.

I'm at two years and 140 hours on my 2021 4707. Had a few nagging things that had to be addressed by the dealer early on, but it's been great since.

I generally think that tractors and equipment are excellent investments because they tend to hold their value fairly well (depending on certain factors, of course) AND because they provide capability to do things that otherwise might not be possible in between the time they are purchased and the...

I've owned both HST and Powershuttle machines. HST is fantastic for loader operations (especially if you are using pallet forks) and is pretty darn good for bush hogging...but I cannot stand the transmission whine and the lack of real pulling power. I'm not bagging on HST, it cannot be beat at...

They want you to own nothing. I'm not making that up, TPTB have come right out and said that. "You'll own nothing and be happy." Diesel engines get work done. They simply work. Time to make them as complicated and expensive as possible...in order to make an alternative that doesn't work seem...

We have two 850s on the farm. Very dependable tractors. No frills to speak of, but they are 100% "let's just get this work done" tractors.

I actually did consider the Kubota M62, but four things hurt it: 1. I already have a new Massey Ferguson 4707 with the upgraded loader. An M62 is a more capable machine (loader wise) than the 4707, but not by a significant amount. We do some materials handling on our farm, most of which is...

I made an offer on an '07 410J with 3,800 hours and it seems like it's in decent shape. This is a non-emissions machine and as such is desirable. Anyone have the scoop on J series John Deere loader backhoes? Thanks.

I have no idea where the computer is on this machine. BTW, that is a nice piece of equipment you have there. These machines (loader backhoes) are so versatile.

I just put money down on a 2007 410J (4wd, weights, A/C, air seat, Xhoe, and powershift). I have the understanding that it is pre-emissions. 3,800 hours and seems to be in very good condition, inside and out. Former township machine.

If I'm reading that chart correctly, a 90hp John Deere 310 or 410 loader backhoe didn't have much for emissions equipment until 2013. Is that correct?

Was it 2008? I'm looking at a John Deere backhoes for sale (310s and 410s) and am curious when the last of the non-emissions tractors and equipment were. I think it was '07, but I'm not sure. Thanks.

Agreed. I recently bought my MF 4707. It is the nicest, most capable tractor I've ever owned or operated. Spent the extra money and got the air ride seat and it is such an improvement over mechanical suspension.

We have a TYM on the farm. It's a decent little machine. I'm sure TYMs have gotten better since it was purchased in '06. Having said that, I think I'd trust a Kioti more than I'd trust either a TYM or an LS. My two cents.

I know two guys local to me that have them. One is a 2606 and the other is a 2607. From what I gather, they like them. Personally, I think the 4707 is a much better option for a tractor in that horsepower range. However, if price and old world technology is what's important to you, then go for it.

Nice tractor made even better by the conversion to an alternator.

I know this is an old post, but I owned a 1540 with the Powershuttle and a 1643 with Hydro. The Hydro was quicker and easier for loader work but aside from that, the Powershuttle was superior in every single way. No whine, no loss of extra power, easier to maintain, and a better choice for...

LOL...that's what I do. ;)

Well done. Who did your concrete work?

We've had a few ourselves. Still have one 9N and one 8N. They are finicky on startup and are notorious for leaking oil onto the brakes. Glad you found five unicorns that never had these issues.

A '53 Jubilee or '54 NAA would be superior due to the upgraded engine. A '55+ would be better still due to improved rear wheel seals not leaking all over the brakes.

The 2515 has the same loader (150?) as many other, larger Branson tractors, correct? It's supposedly rated at a little over 2,000lbs, which is rather stout given the size of the tractor. I, too, am looking at a Branson 2515h with the loader and it seems to be a decent machine. Not sure what to...

Yeah, I put a little bit of air in the tires when I bought the tractor. They were too soft for the work I do. BTW, now that the little problems have been addressed and fixed by the dealer (coolant leak above the cab, 3pt hitch controls were wonky), I really like this tractor. It's kind of perfect.

My 4707 has the FL3615 loader, which has a rating of 3,400lbs. I routinely lift and move 2,000lbs with the loader and many times fill the bucket with gravel or loam and that must run 2-3,000lbs. Even with just 2k, the back end is light and forces me to engage 4wd.

I made a new counterweight for my 4707. Quick attach style. 2,600lbs.

If you ended up with a Massey 5711, why do you want a smaller 2850? The 5711 is A LOT of tractor and is really nice. Love my 4707 so far.

That's a pretty innovative machine. I think I like it.

My Massey Ferguson 4707 is smaller than what you are looking for, but it's still part of the global series of tractors (4700, 5700, 6700). It had a few issues when I bought it new in late '21, but the dealer eventually got things straightened out and it's been fantastic since. This is a lot of...

This leaves my dad in a quandary because while he wants a 1050, he doesn't want to sacrifice loader lift capacity. It's bass ackward if you think about it. A 1050 is a fair amount more tractor than an 850 and an 80 loader is a bit more stout than a 75...but his little 850 will outlift the bigger...

We've got a 1985 John Deere 850 with a 75 loader, but my dad's "Holy Grail" tractor is a 1050. We found a 1985 JD 1050 for sale with an 80 loader and not only does it look more rugged and stout than the 75, the spec sheet also shows this, too. Except for one important category: lift capacity...

I bought the filter and oil from my dealer. I figure changing the oil will happen infrequently enough where I'd rather just pay whatever the dealer charges and have "Massey Ferguson" on the side in case something happens.

Just did my first oil and filter change. The two drain plugs were easy. The oil filter is not. It's also horizontal, so you're going to want to fill the new filter with oil and then let it sit for about ten minutes to get absorbed before you put it on.

The left fender of my dad's 850 was bent all out of shape when he bought the tractor almost two years ago. We took it off this week and stomped, hammered, and pressed it back into shape and it actually looks pretty good now. After sanding and painting, it almost passes for new. What we need now...

The older I've gotten the more I value performance and features. Ten years ago, I'd have scoffed at the expense of an air-ride seat. My newest tractor (4707) has air and it was worth every single dollar extra. I also sprang for the upgraded FL series loader. Spent money on wheel weights. These...

No problems with it. I kind of like that feature.

Looks like JCB has multiple models of TLBs.

Everything is kept under cover and we generally are very respectful of our equipment. That 850 has thousands of hours on it and is 43 years old.

Then I'm 99.9% sure he hit something beneath the snow that didn't budge and the loader paid for it.

Here's our other 850.

Couple more pics, this time with the counterweight. I ended up leaving the Reese hitch on for the pic. Typically, I'd take it off if I was using the weight. The new counterweight will be roughly the same size, but it will have steel arms that come up and wrap over the top of the attachment, sort...

My counterweight is 2,500lbs. It lifted it with no issues. It also tugs around my trailers perfectly fine. Why are you nitpicking it when I built it to suit my needs and does exactly what I wanted it to? This isn't my first rodeo.

I've learned a lot in the last few years. Here are a few pics that I currently have:

8Ns are ok. A '53 Jubilee or '54 NAA are better due to their engines. A '55 and up are better still due to improved rear wheel seals that don't leak on the brakes and you can also find some with live power and power steering. Those are the holy grails of antique/vintage small Ford tractors.

No, you didn't see it, because it doesn't show up in either picture. The lateral bracing is behind the top rail, facing away from the camera.

When I first talked to my dad about what I wanted to do, he thought I was referring to ^ this. I then considered it, but decided just to go with a dedicated 3pt hitch attachment, as I have no intention of ever taking it off the back of the tractor.

I did use 1/4" steel on the tower. Also, I think I mentioned it already, but while you can't see it from the pics, I reinforced the top rail from the tower outward towards each side of the attachment. It should be plenty strong enough to tow trailers in the yard.

You can't tell from the pictures, but the gooseneck tower goes all the way to the bottom. Also, the top rail is beefed up towards the tractor.

OK, I finally finished it. I converted a SSQA backing structure for forks into a 3pt hitch setup. Also added a conventional hitch and a gooseneck hitch. Forks can be put on and taken off fairly easily. I imagine they'll be left off most of the time as I tow trailers around the farm more than any...

Yeah, I had big problems with my 3pt hitch control. Took the dealer two times to fix it, once at our farm and when that didn't work, they came and picked it up and brought it back to their shop.

Hope this works. Sorry about the video quality, not sure why it's only 240p. Murphy struck again. Anyway, this is the telescoping top link my dad made. It works well and is easy to adjust the angle of the rear forks.

My dad made a telescoping top link out of scrap so he could adjust the pitch of his 3pt forks on the fly. I'll take a pic tomorrow and post it.

Well, I bought the backing structure to a set of pallet forks (no forks though, as I have some spares) that is rated for 4,000lbs. We will use this as the starting point for my idea. I'll keep y'all updated as I go.

This is for my 4707. It'll be fine. Lift capacity is nearly 5,000lbs.

That looks very promising.

I watched that video and the idea intrigued me...but then researched the product and found the heaviest model only has a capacity of 1,700lbs. I need something that will lift my 2,500lb counterweight.

A. had both gooseneck and regular Reese hitch capability B. Could mount skid steer fork tines when needed After researching, I have not found anything like it and may have to start with the backing structure of pallet forks (not the fork tines themselves) and modify it to add the gooseneck and...

The air ride seat in my MF 4707 is the best, most comfortable seat I've ever experienced on a tractor or piece of equipment. Well worth it. Between the large sidewall radial tires, the rubber mounted cab, rubber floor mat, air suspension, and nice foam material, nothing beats it for operator...

My dad bought a new 525 with FEL back in '88. It is crude and clunky and the hydraulics on the loader are far too strong for the loader itself and the front end. You have to really respect the tractor or you'll destroy it in short order. It's been down for five years with a blown head, but up...

Mine had a handful of issues early on after I bought it a year ago. I think they've all been addressed and I'm very happy with the tractor. A few people have commented that they think the 4707 is underpowered, but I don't necessarily agree. It's a stump puller.

95 hours. Love the tractor.

After I've been running the tractor for about 30 minutes or so, I can smell the paint cooking.

Love my 4707. As has been documented, the 3pt. hydraulics are sort of finicky, but other than that, this tractor is the best one I've ever owned or operated.

Yes, the temps do run fairly high, but my A/C is pretty decent and I have no complaints with it.

I agree with this post. Last fall I purchased a new 2021 MF 4707 with the upgraded loader (FL3615), cab, and air seat. The combination of rubber mounted cab, air seat, and well placed controls make it a comfortable tractor to operate for hours on end. I've checked out other tractor cabs in this...

What would be more desirable: a Workmaster (860 like above) or a Ford 4000?

We have a 10,000lb mini excavator on our farm and a CAT 262 skid steer that weighs around 8,600lbs. They both have their place and do jobs the other machine isn't good at. As others have said, a purpose built TLB like Kubota makes is a pretty good compromise. Their M62 TLB really interested me...

The 23hp TYM I bought new about 15 years ago was a 2spd hydro. Nothing wrong with it and it worked well. Never felt like it needed anything different.

Yeah, if you don't shut that valve off, your A/C won't work very well.

I grew up with nothing but geared tractors (no shuttles whatsoever). Then got a Massey 1540 Powershuttle in 2007. It was fantastic. Had to sell it due to the economy in '09 and replaced it with a 1643 Hydro in '13. Replaced it last fall with this 4707 Powershuttle and am happier now...

Hydro is is ridiculously easy and fast for loader work, but it does come with a few penalties: 1. On farm equipment (things that are not yellow), hydro is typically loud. 2. Hydro sucks HP way more than geared transmissions. 3. Many times you have a need to change ranges while operating the...

The only remaining issue on mine is the hood not raising and staying up. It's scheduled to get new shocks, but they haven't sent out a mechanic yet to do it. Other than that, the tractor's been more or less trouble free now (60 hours).

That's almost half the price I would expect.

I load cages of panels onto trailers in the yard with a big skid steer and have a boom truck to unload cages on jobsites, but half the time (or more), the jobs are either not big enough to warrant the boom truck or the site makes it not worth the effort to use the truck. So that means you're...

Except they are not easier to handle that way. They are significantly easier to handle when off the ground by about 12-16" or so. That's part of the problem with my current trailer. The bottom of the panels should be about a foot or more higher than where you are standing.

Basically, I'm looking for the following: 1. Gooseneck trailer with GVWR of 12k 2. Single axle dually axle like you'd see on tandem dually trailers with 16in. wheels 3. 16' long frame from the vertical gooseneck supports to the back end of the frame with 4' of frame behind the trailer tires 4...

Pretty much that, yes, but with a gooseneck.

I do concrete foundations and everything I use to do them (footing planks and wall panels) is towed to jobsites on trailers behind my F-350 and Dodge 3500 dually. Some trailers are traditional bumper pull and some are gooseneck. My 8' tall panels are towed on a gooseneck 12,000lb GVW tandem...

The JD 4000 Twenty series is one of the finest compact tractor series ever built.

Back about ten years ago, I seriously looked at the 4720 in both hydro and Power Reverser. For a compact tractor, it was a lot of tractor. Ultimately went with MF, but that was mostly due to dealer situation, not the tractors themselves. I think a JD hydro is decent, but a JD Power Reverser is...

Just to follow up on my previous post, what you posted is exactly what we had to deal with. We made our own bushings, filed the throat of the steel block, and drilled and tapped in a grease fitting. Without doing this, the mechanisms are completely inoperable.

FYI, my dad just bought a pair of those identical lockers. Made in china, and they need modifications just to work properly (or at all).

For years, we've been using a home made hook that slid over a set of forks to load and unload cages of panels for doing concrete foundations. The heaviest cages weigh one ton. It worked well enough, but it was heavy, the hook was low, forcing us to raise the loader as high as possible to carry...

Not all 12x12s have "brake to neutral." Only the Dyna 2 transmission has that. Also, as H500D mentioned, the 540e switch/lever is on the PTO itself outside the cab. And yes, the field manual leaves a lot to be desired.

Been a few more months with the 4707 now. The dealer had to take it back due to numerous issues: 1. Coolant leak above the cab dripping down the back window 2. 3pt hitch controls not working correctly 3. Hood shocks wouldn't lift the hood and keep it raised They fixed the coolant leak and...

I used it today to tow a trailer around the farm. The answer is...I don't know if it is working correctly, but it isn't working the way "I think" it should be working. Here's why: when you back up to a trailer and raise the 3pt hitch to hook up, the hitch still raises even when you've stopped...

FWIW fellas, this is our first dedicated welding table. Up until now, our welding "table" has consisted of simply plywood on top of a couple sawhorses.

How about a second layer of thicker steel?

Our family farm and my concrete business generate a somewhat regular need for welding stuff, so after years of welding on makeshift tables made out of sawhorses and plywood, my dad and I finally made a dedicated welding table. You can see on the front corner where there is no wood under the...

Wow. That is slick. Well done.

It's been pretty cold. Single digits or teens at night and 20s and 30s during the day for most of the winter.

OK, I have to ask this question: when you click open the hood on a 4700 series tractor, is the hood supposed to go all the way up and stay there? Mine doesn't. You click it open and it goes up about half way, then comes back down to only a quarter of the way up. If you want to look under the...

I had a Massey Ferguson 1643 Hydro with loader. After eight years, I couldn't take the hydro any longer and replaced it with a 4707 and Powershuttle (12x12). Very much prefer gears and now I'm happier.

All part of the plan. This isn't by accident. Neither is $5/gal diesel.

I ordered a 24x36' steel building/carport from EB Carports in August. Paid the 10% deposit the day I ordered it. Was told install would be 4-8 weeks. Three or four delays since, still no building. Eight months now.

I have a 2021 MF 4707 with the FL3615 loader. It is easily the nicest loader on a farm tractor I've ever used and am soooo glad I upgraded to it, as I do quite a bit of work with loaders here. Having said that, the radial tires don't allow for fluid ballast and the wheel weights aren't enough...

I just bought the same one. I suck at cutting right now, but hopefully I get things figured out a little better.

96' long? Wow. Awesome.

About 40.

Couple pics of the 4707, because everybody likes pics:

The only TYM we have on our farm has had electrical gremlins for years. Nothing major, but annoying nonetheless. I personally think TYM and LS are on the same tier, with LS maybe being ranked slightly better.

Let's see if this works. We towed our Belarus 525 down to our shop today. It blew its head gasket a few years ago and haven't had the time to fix it.

Update: tractor was delivered back to me from the dealer a few days ago. I "think" the 3pt hitch issue was fixed, but I won't know until I hook up to trailers and start yanking them around the yard. That's hard to do with all the snow we have right now. Also, the leak over the cab was fixed...

While I was pawing around on and under my new Massey Ferguson 4707, I noticed that the.... Loader was made in Sweden Front end was made in France Tires were made in Norway Bucket was made in China Hoses were made in Italy

If 35hp is enough for you, the 1835 should be perfectly fine.

That tractor is most likely built by Japanese company Iseki, which is a very respected tractor manufacturer. Massey compact tractors have a good reputation because of this. I owned a 1540 and a 1643 and both were very good tractors. The 1540 had to be sold because the economy crapped the bed and...

Now try those Michelins in 5" of mud.

The dealer is sending a truck out to pick up the tractor.

I live on a farm. Fixing and reusing things is kind of a way of life.

I got up this morning and was going to ask here if I could use "universal" anti-freeze to top the coolant tank off. The anti-freeze bottle (from Wal-Mart) says it can be added to any make or model.

Went out to the garage and looked more closely at everything. It's not fuel, it appears to be coolant. Why would the back of the tractor be sprayed with coolant? Also, the coolant reservoir is quite low, further suggesting it's a coolant leak.

Hard to buy a "bad" tractor these days. Sure, there are brands and models that are better (or worse) than others, but it's not like it was 20 years ago when there really were "bad" machines out there. I've seen, used, or owned a metric buttload of tractors over the years and the best SCUTs I've...

Hmmm. I am using off-road...but where could it be coming from?

OK, might be another issue popping up. Over the course of the last few weeks, I've noticed a dark spot under the tractor (by the rear end, under the cab). Didn't think much of it because it was very minor and I thought it was water dripping off the machine. Nope. In my preparation for this...

The only issue I've had is the 3pt hitch control. It's still not fixed. Other than that, everything is good.

The local Massey dealer usually had about 20 new tractors on the lot. Right now it's about 12. The local LS dealer usually had about eight new tractors, right now it's the same 73hp tractor that's been sitting there for a year. That's it. The nearest Kubota dealer usually had 20 or so machines...

IMO, the 4707 is as good as it gets for that size tractor. I've got one and aside from a problem with the 3pt hitch (dealer is working on it), this tractor is pretty darn sweet. I got the upgraded loader (FL 3615) and don't regret it.

The only advice I can give you right off the bat (given the parameters you posted), you want a geared transmission and NOT hydro. A clutchless powershuttle is preferred, but a synchroshuttle (have to use the clutch to operate the reverser) would do as well. Kubota is a fine tractor, you can't...

Outside of raw data/information found in brochures and on the 'net, the two most important things when buying a new tractor are, in order: 1. Seat time and personally testing the machine 2. Listening to others who have the machine you are interested in

Every tractor and vehicle I've ever purchased was tested with seat time beforehand. There really is no other way, IMO.

I just want to know where the OP lives. Damn that's some nice scenery behind his house.

Strange. My local Massey dealer is loaded with new tractors. There must be four 4707s on the lot, let alone the other models.

My 4707 has air ride, front and rear wipers, radials, ePTO, and two rear remotes. I think it was all standard. I also got the upgraded FL3615 self-leveling loader with cushion.

Don't forget the radial tires. Those are big bucks.

Very neat. Thanks for sharing.

OK, my dealer sent out a mechanic to figure out the problem(s) with my 3pt hitch. He was out here for two hours and saw that it wasn't working properly, but couldn't fix it. Stay tuned.

Congrats on the tractor. I've got the FL3615 loader too and it's pretty darn good for a farm tractor loader.

We add/subtract to our line up of tractors now and then and over the years we've looked at Mahindra and each time we leave the lot unimpressed. Of those three, Mahindra would be out because reasons, and if you want hydro Kubota would be out because of the treadle peddle. If you don't want hydro...

My preference is for steel. The supposed upside to plastic hoods and fenders falls far short of the known downsides.

In '07 I was in the market for a CUT and was looking hard at JD, specifically the 4520. The dealership experience left a bad taste in my mouth so I bought a MF 1540.

I ordered a 12x10' overhead door on June 27 and it finally showed up a week before Christmas...and it wasn't what I ordered (I spec'd windows and the door was solid).

Two weeks to flatten the curve.

We have a TYM on the farm. It's just a little thing (23hp) with a loader, but it's been a decent tractor. I wouldn't put it in the same league as a JD, Kubota, or Massey, but it's ok. If you are looking at TYM and RK, don't bother with RK even though it's the same tractor, because the support...

Yes. The 7.3L Powerstroke was (is) a really good engine. Mine is 19 years old and a is still my daily driver and it tows trailers all the time. No complaints whatsoever. However, if I had to choose, I'd choose the 12V 5.9L Cummins. It's a little better.

I've got a 2003 Ford 7.3L Powerstroke and a 1994 Dodge Ram 5.9L Cummins. No issues with either engine and both are still driven today. If I had to choose, however, I'd pick the Cummins.

I bought a new TYM 233 in '06. Good little tractor that was very capable. It was a little rough around the edges and it didn't like cold weather starting, but I don't regret purchasing it. My brother owns it now and he leaves it on our family farm.

Nope. The only issue I have is raising and lowering the 3pt hitch arms. Everything else seems to be fine.

We have a fair amount of tractors and equipment on our farm and most of them use diesel. We also have a 300 gallon bulk tank that we get off road/HHO from. When filled, we treat the tank and then fill everything from it. The pump has a water separator and a fuel filter plumbed into it, so the...

Agreed. Wheel and axle bearings are a thing. Weights bolted to the wheel or ballast inside the tire don't affect bearings or surfaces inside axles. Ballast on the 3pt hitch will. That's why wheel weights are probably the best overall way to add weight, because they don't put additional stress on...

That's an excellent approach. Really nice setup. Kills a bunch of birds with one stone. I've got a home-made trailer hitch setup on my Massey Ferguson 4707 that can hook up to gooseneck and regular trailers. It's pretty heavy for what it is, but it's close enough to the tractor that the ballast...

Based on this post, I think you'd want to go Branson and try to hit 50hp.

That's basically a list of every available option.

I recently purchased a 2021 4707 and am having issues with raising and lowering the 3pt hitch arms. It's as if the control in the cab isn't really connected to the hitch arms. You move them up a little and stop, but they keep going. Aside from that, this is an awesome tractor. I have the...

Handsome looking tractors. It's too early to know if they have long term reliability, but if they do, they will be a home run for Massey. Except for the 3pt hitch issue, I'm really impressed with mine.

You're going to appreciate having that extra 12hp and weight. Congrats on the new tractor.

Killingly. I know Dale fairly well. I've bought a few things from you guys over the years.

The Massey 4707 is a 70hp tractor that packs quite a punch when it comes to features and capabilities.

My wife is from Foster (Central Pike). We probably live not that far from each other.

Not sure if you are asking this question of me, but the 1525 loader on the Massey was decent. Yes, I wish it had more capability, but there is one absolute truth about tractors and implements such as loaders: no matter how much they can do, you always wish they could do more. I recently traded...

Government is interested in only one thing: ensuring the continuity of government. If government is the answer, then you're asking the wrong question.

I had a 2007 Massey Ferguson 1540 Powershuttle with the 1525 loader (almost the same tractor as the 1440 you describe, just one model generation newer). It was outstanding and the best tractor I've ever owned or operated. The 3cyl turbo engine started instantly no matter how cold the temps were...

Our fire department just bought a 2850 deluxe cab just like yours for snow removal (angle plow and big snow blower) and general property maintenance like brush hogging cleaning up after winter. Curious how it does.

Winter here lasts four or five months. It gets old being out in the elements while sitting on tractor. I welcome the change.

After operating stripped, open station tractors for decades, I finally purchased a cab tractor with a few bells and whistles. I'm happy I made the switch. Life is too short.

OK, I have to post this (again). I've gone back to the dealer in an attempt to figure out how to operate the 3pt hitch arms in a way that actually works. They had a tech go out to a 4707 on the lot and go through the motions on how to raise and lower the arms. He didn't seem comfortable doing...

Given that the Dyna 2 doesn't provide a lower first gear (or a lower split for first gear), I'm glad I didn't spring for it. Also, if you want the FL series loader, do not settle for the 900 series. You will kick yourself every single day you use the tractor.

I bought a TYM 23hp hydro tractor in '06. It bounced around the extended family for a few years and wound up back on our farm a few years ago. It's not fancy and isn't overly refined, but it's a nice little tractor that is a worker bee. There have been a few issues here and there, but overall...

Right after I bought my 4707, I was slightly disappointed that first gear wasn't lower and thought maybe a Dyna-2 would've been a better choice. Then I did research and saw that first gear in the Dyna-2 was exactly the same as the Powershuttle. Now I don't mind that I have the standard 12x12.

Nothing. I'm referring to needing more weight back there when digging into a pile of dirt.

Well, define "big." I'd say mostly CUTs and SCUTs, but also up to 100+hp. We have a Massey dealer here and they sell a lot of tractors up to triple digit hp models. It is very rare for me to see Case-IH here. This is a list of dealers within 25 miles of my place: Massey Mahindra John Deere...

Around here, Massey Ferguson is a major player. There are red tractors everywhere. This is completely unscientific, but I suspect the market breakdown is as follows: 30% JD 30% MF 30% Kubota 10% Everything else

Some other observations about the 4707: 1. Man, do these tires rip apart the ground they tread on. Wow. Especially grass/lawn. 2. The heat and A/C work really, really well. 3. The cab is surprisingly quiet. 4. The amount of features this tractor has compared to equivalent models in other...

A local dealer has LS tractors. I looked at their 73hp model (basically an apples-to-apples comparison with the 4707). It was $19k cheaper than the Massey. Even so, hard pass. The Massey seems to be better in every way (weight, fit and finish, aesthetics, cab design, materials quality (plastic)...

I did the same thing: paid the "cash" price and then financed it with a low rate.

I'm in the 4707 club, but a newbie with only 15 hours on it so far. No significant complaints other than operating the 3pt hitch arms. Every tractor I've ever owned or used has a lever to raise or lower the arms. Easy. Simple. Fairly accurate. This thing has the plastic thingy that takes the...

I traded in my '13 MF1643 (amounted to a decent down payment) and then took the cash price and financed it through them for 36 months (at their lowest rate, somewhere around 4%).

About five weeks ago I bought a 2021 4707. Paid about $61,000 after taxes and stuff. Options: FL3615 loader, deluxe cab with Visio roof, wheel weights. If you're buying new, I can't think of anything comparable to this tractor. If it has longevity, it will have been a grand slam for MF. The...

Not sure about the steel grate. I'll check it out. Noticed another tag on the tractor. This one is on the back side of the front axle and it says "Made in France." So, I guess the front axle is made there. Loader: Sweden Bucket: china Front axle: France

11 hours on it so far. Seems to be a high quality machine. Handsome tractor too. Cab is spacious. Tilt and telescopic steering column is nice. Still think they could do a little better job on designing nooks and crannies for storage inside the cab, although I do realize this is a little...

Honestly, I don't know. I looked around on the tractor and I haven't found anywhere that says where it's built. The stickers/tags on the back of the cab don't even say. The only things I saw were a tag on the bucket "Made in china," and the loader "Made in Sweden." Nothing else. Part of me...

Well, I did it. Got me a 4707.

I've only had my 407 for a month now, but initial impressions are pretty good. Back in '07, I bought a MF 1540 Powershuttle. It was a GREAT tractor. Best tractor I had ever used, bar none. Then the economy crapped out and I had to sell it in '09. Four years later I bought a 1643 Hydro and it...

I just bought a 4707 with the upgraded loader (FL3615) and deluxe cab: $61,000 OTD cash price.

I bought a deluxe cab 4707 a month ago with the FL3615 loader. Stout loader, made in Sweden (bucket is made in china). Very smooth operation, not jerky. This loader is a big reason why I bought the tractor and so far it hasn't disappointed.

I went and checked the thousand series and boy are they ugly. No thanks.

We're not sure of the year of the 9N and we think the 8N is a '46. Of course the Jubilee is a '53 and the NAA is a '54. The two older tractors aren't used, but are inside a barn under cover. The Jubilee has a loader and backhoe and is used about once every week or two. The NAA is used every...

I have a potential buyer for my 1643 Hydro, but they're wondering if it's possible to retrofit some sort of cab or wind/snow barrier to it. Anyone ever heard of something like that?

Yes, I realize it might be a little high, but I figure it's easier to go down on price than go up, hence the "asking" $23,000. Also, I just went to Tractorhouse and looked at the cab 1643 there. It has 300 more hours on it, the tires are worn almost completely down, it looks fairly well used...

I'm putting my 43hp Massey up for sale to get a bigger tractor. It's Hydro, so not sure if that is what you want, but this tractor has 520 hours and could almost pass for brand-new. Just posted it in this forum and then saw this thread.

Better than excellent condition. It's almost "like new," as much as a piece of equipment can be with 520 hours on it. Always garaged and well maintained. Cosmetically 99% (very minor paint wear and scratches). Has DL120 loader, rear work lights and loaded tires (non-corrosive). No DPF, no...

I am planning on buying a new 4707 and decided to sell my 2013 1643 Hydro. Not sure if it's against the rules to list things for sale here, so I won't do that. However, here are some pics of my Massey. It's in better than excellent condition, always garaged and taken care of. Except for a few...

We've used our 2001 CAT 262 skid steer to lift and load/unload cages of concrete forms for years now. Wanting to ease up on the hours on that machine, my dad and I made an attachment to use the MF 1643 to load and unload our lighter cages that hold 4' panels. These particular cages weigh about...

After going to Massey's website, I still can't figure out what differentiates them. Can someone kindly fill me in?

Just before the really cold temps hit us a couple weeks ago, I fueled up (from cans that have been sitting for a few weeks under cover) and added Power Service white bottle to the tank. I put in slightly more than the bottle recommended. About a week ago, my dad was using the tractor in 5...

I've been looking at adding a tractor to the farm. We've got an '88 70hp Belarus/loader that's under the weather right now with a head gasket leak, an '80 John Deere 850 2wd (no loader), and a '13 Massey Ferguson Hydro 1643 with loader. Specifically, I'm interested in a tractor around the...

Dealer quoted me $40,275 for a new 4608 cab with loader, 3rd function kit for loader, and loaded rears AFTER the Equine Savings Program. "Sticker" price was right around $52,000 for the same tractor with the same upgrades. Does this sound kosher?

Nope. Remember, the total weight on the front axle with our set of skid-steer forks is still 1,800-1,900lbs. It's just that the weight is carried a little further forward than the specs suggest. The front axle can more than handle that weight.

I thought I might be able to get into another tractor through the Equine Savings Program for less than I'm paying now. No dice. However, while I was at the dealership, I looked at a new 4608 with a cab and 250 loader and a 1758 cab (no loader). A few observations: The 4608 was a really nice...

First off, this is the second Massey I've owned. The first was an '07 1540 Powershuttle. Loved that tractor. Had to sell it when the economy crapped the bed. A few weeks ago, I purchased a new 1643 Hydro and have 11 hours on it so far, mostly loader work. While I'm a "gear" guy and miss the...