2006 F250 powerstroke

Duffster · May 4, 2009

That was anounced months ago

We really need to compare apples to apples like a diesel in a superduty to at least a big block in a superduty

I get 16 mpg with my diesel and 11 in the V-10 so

When fuel was high

Gas @ $3.99/11 mpg= $0.363/mile
Diesel @ $4.79/16 mpg= $0.299/mile

Savings per mile = $0.064

Now with "cheap" fuel

Gas @ $2.09/11 mpg= $0.190/mile
Diesel @ $2.19/16 mpg= $0.137/mile

Savings per mile = $0.053

Notice per mile savings was higher when fuel was higher

Oil change costs twice as much but run it twice as long

Fuel filter a year for each so a wash there

Repairs to date =$0

Diesel was $5000 more upfront

$5000/$0.05(per mile savings)= 100,000 mile break even or 3 years @ 33,333 miles per year

My truck has 280,000 on it, 180,000 past the break even

180k x $0.05= $9000 Lifetime savings(this number would really be much higher since when I bought the truck diesel was cheaper than gas)

Not to mention I would have most likely had to replace a gas engine by now at a cost of ????

I don't drive a diesel because it sounds good

JESSE1 · May 4, 2009

The longevity of the diesel has always been one of the reasons to have one. The problem is that the new diesels are so complicated and computerized that they are going to be extremely expensive to repair when they go out of warranty. Fuel savings for diesel engines compared to gas engines changed because of the emissions equipment required on the new diesels. You will be lucky to get over 14 mpg with a 3/4 ton truck with a new diesel.

Duffster · May 4, 2009

JESSE1 said:
The longevity of the diesel has always been one of the reasons to have one. The problem is that the new diesels are so complicated and computerized that they are going to be extremely expensive to repair when they go out of warranty. Fuel savings for diesel engines compared to gas engines changed because of the emissions equipment required on the new diesels. You will be lucky to get over 14 mpg with a 3/4 ton truck with a new diesel.

True

But isn't this thread about an '06

Plus the Dodge and Gm which both get better mileage then Ford in the pre and post emissions

Dargo · May 4, 2009

I'll just check out and stay with logic and 99% of the people. I'm glad you're happy Duffster. I find it amazing that you can read the Ford executive's minds "months ago" from a live telecast I watched today and I'm sure you know far more than their accountants and engineers. Just don't expect many to agree with you.

JESSE1 · May 4, 2009

The '06 is just as computerized as the newest engines. It doesn't have a diesel particulate filter that has to be cleaned by regeneration so it will get better mileage than the newest trucks. I don't believe the newest Cummins or Duramax get much different mileage than the International in the Ford. They all have the DPF and it takes fuel to clean it.

Duffster · May 4, 2009

Dargo said:
I'll just check out and stay with logic and 99% of the people. I'm glad you're happy Duffster. I find it amazing that you can read the Ford executive's minds "months ago" from a live telecast I watched today and I'm sure you know far more than their accountants and engineers. Just don't expect many to agree with you.

Geez I will look for it and link it later

First it is the number don't lie, now its logic

Duffster · May 4, 2009

JESSE1 said:
The '06 is just as computerized as the newest engines. It doesn't have a diesel particulate filter that has to be cleaned by regeneration so it will get better mileage than the newest trucks. I don't believe the newest Cummins or Duramax get much different mileage than the International in the Ford. They all have the DPF and it takes fuel to clean it.

IDK It's just what I am hearing is that the Dodge and Gm' mpg's didn't suffer near as much as the Ford's did in the '08 and newer

riptides · May 6, 2009

I run the 2005 7.3 F250 SuperDuty, SuperCab. Has 120k on it. Had Ford do the CPS. Never had an issue with it.

Jiffy Lube does cost me 3X what I would like to pay. Other than that, and when fuel was close to 5.00 a gallon, no problems. I was thinking of running bio during that span. A buddy of mine does his own. Never pulled the trigger on that, but it is an option.

I haul horses, kids and whatnot. Never been without power, never been without enough room. A nice truck. And when I look under the hood, which is rare, I can understand all the parts. The big block thingy is the engine, right? Or is that the turbo?

Chuck52 · May 6, 2009

Going to be driving it this afternoon. I'll also look at a 2006 F150 they just got in a local trade. We'll see. Since I've started looking there seem to be a number of decent truck deals around.

Chuck

nmu98 · May 6, 2009

JESSE1 said:
The longevity of the diesel has always been one of the reasons to have one. The problem is that the new diesels are so complicated and computerized that they are going to be extremely expensive to repair when they go out of warranty. Fuel savings for diesel engines compared to gas engines changed because of the emissions equipment required on the new diesels. You will be lucky to get over 14 mpg with a 3/4 ton truck with a new diesel.

I get over that everyday. I have an 08 GMC 2500. On tanks that have a regen I get 15.5. If I slip through without one I get 17 to 17.5. Thats my "city" driving. I dont live in LA so my city driving might be different than a big city. I also get consistent 22 to 24 mpg on trips up north that are over 800 miles of highway. The regens suck and take some fuel, but with a light foot and some smart driving, the fuel milage is there, even in the new trucks.