John Deere Over-Rated?

   / John Deere Over-Rated? #41  
Does anybody think Deere has higher prices because they simply want to? In the very competitive market for these compact tractors I doubt it. There is a reason. Maybe Deere just wants to sell less than their competitors, again I doubt it. IMO $1,000.00 difference is not a make or break deal especially if you want a tractor to work with and not just to play with and say you have one.
 
   / John Deere Over-Rated? #42  
IMO $1,000.00 difference is not a make or break deal especially if you want a tractor to work with and not just to play with and say you have one.
Just because it's not a JD for more money don't mean
you got it just to play with so you could say you have one .
What kind of logic is that anyway?
 
   / John Deere Over-Rated? #43  
i think the deere pricing and kubota pricing depends alot on the dealer there is a deere bota dealer probably 50 miles from here and they are a good dealer (big lotsa inventory probably atleast 150 new botas on lot same with deere and they are a huge ag implement dealer) but for pricing you can buy a bota or deere anywhere else for less.
 
   / John Deere Over-Rated? #44  
Why do John Deeres and divorces cost so much?






They're worth it.



:D




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   / John Deere Over-Rated? #45  
All those people buying those green lawnmowers for 500 plus more than other cheap lawnmowers[talking lowes here 100 series lawnmowers],should tell you something about the way people are brainwashed over that green paint,[but wait a few years when enough people buy them and find they are just like the other cheap lawnmowers!],when they decide to buy a real tractor,they probably won't be so crazy over that green paint.

kubota should cash in on their name too that way,just think if lowes started selling 1,500 dollar kubotas! Man,they would sell more than they could make[the first year or two anyways]
 
   / John Deere Over-Rated? #46  
Just because it's not a JD for more money don't mean
you got it just to play with so you could say you have one .
What kind of logic is that anyway?

Ok, substitute JD for any brand. My point is that people are buying less expensive tractors and don't really need them. Why? Because pricing and quality (or lack of) support and promote the sale to the person who really does not need a tractor. Cheaper will usually out sell quality, again to the people who really don't need the tractor.
 
   / John Deere Over-Rated? #48  
In the past 2-1/2 years, I've bought 5 new tractors (for my business) All are below 100hp, and somewhat simular in options, excepting transmissions. 3 are Deere, 2 are Massey Ferguson. I shopped ALL the major brands before purchasing. I found several simularities and several glaring differences from brand to brand, dealer to dealer.

On simularly equipped base models, what I'd describe as "minimum spec" models, Deere wasn't in the hunt. There were a number of brands that were cheaper. THe Massey's I bought were almost $6000 cheaper than the best deal I could find on a simular Deere model. It's when the bells and whistles start showing up on the option list where Deere prices start to come in line with others. At a certain point, well equipped "deluxe models" from Deere start pricing out as CHEAPER than their competition's well adorn models.

As far as dealers go, I've ran across Deere deqalers I'd just as soon never speak with again. Same applies to a New Holland dealer I traded with for 30 years. They're out of the picture nowdays. To a certain extent, the parent corporation has some control over individual dealers, but should one decide to be a poor representative of the parent company, that's the breaks.....Pass over them and move on. That doesn't mean the parent company is a failure.

Like I said in an earlier post, I DO believe many Deere owners "over state" their loyalty and devotion to the brand. After all, it's ONLY a tractor. But painting with broad strokes, Deere Inc does have title as #1 in the industry. We aren't dealing with a small time operation that sells 10 tractors a year. They have MILLIONS of customers, MOST who are loyal fans of the leaping deere brand. That many people can't ALL be wrong.


Just for the record, I'd rate the pair of Massey Fergusons I bought last years as equals in reliability, ease of operation, economy of operation, and operator satisfaction to the 3 Deere's I've bought in the last 3 years. Point being? The difference between ALL the major brands is miniscule at best. Get a good deal with a brand and a dealer you're comfortable with, and it's a GOOD DEAL.....for you!

It's good to hear from folks that have owned several brands. Of course, because of you, I now actively watch for mg 150's even though I don't need another tractor!
 
   / John Deere Over-Rated? #49  
over rated? No
over priced? Yes, in my opinion

I have a Mahindra tractor but a JD GT 235 lawn mower which is a fine mower except the plastic hood.
 
   / John Deere Over-Rated? #50  
Ok, substitute JD for any brand. My point is that people are buying less expensive tractors and don't really need them. Why? Because pricing and quality (or lack of) support and promote the sale to the person who really does not need a tractor. Cheaper will usually out sell quality, again to the people who really don't need the tractor.

Couple points-

Around here people who do not "need" a tractor buy "JD", because of marketing by JD, The "Hairy Homeonwers" in a sense are brainwashed into thinking they have to buy JD to get a real tractor. They are paying MORE for LESS, just to have bragging rights of owning a JD.

In this case Cheaper (Kioti/Bobcat) IS the Quality Machine.

Not sure if you have ever dealt with the construction industry or "real" equipment, but the Bobcat has parts and service that makes Deere look foolish, And My Kioti dealer will over night anything I need.

JD is in no way a better machine than Kioti, NH, Kubota, Agco (MF).
I can get My Daedong (Kioti/Bobcat) parts ASAP from multiple sources.

So in the end, with JD you are paying thousands more for 1 thing - Green paint.
 

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