A BX just isn't a B. You have to try it to know the difference.

[Charlesaf3]

I don't think the OP or others were knocking the BX - its clearly excellent for what it does, and I just recommended to a friend he buy one.

I'd rather mow a lawn with a BX, and I'd rather move gravel with my m59. As was said many times, best tractor depends on which tractor you need. Or sometimes, that you have - I mow with my b3030, even though I wouldn't be surprised if a BX were better. Why? I own a b3030...

 

[BigD23]

Don,

At least someone agrees with me...Although LB will chime in, I'm sure.

This is built like a tank. Had it for 5 years, no problems at all. Has exceed all of my expectations, even the 3PT works well with a landscape rake and other attachments. Have to get a tooth bar for the loader, but that's on the to-do list.

The first year I had it, my German Shepard died on New Years Day. Had to bury her in wet clay in a downpour. Made this thing worth every penny that night. I'd still be digging, and that was 5 years ago.

The B guys need something bigger than a BX, so be it, I don't. I'm perfectly happy and would recommend the BX23 to anyone who asks.

This overgrown big box tractor is a strange comment. It appears that they don't know what this really is.

Tim, maybe we should start a new thread "a B just isn't a BX"...One thing I've always thought was strange/funny is when Other people decide what's best for Your lifestyle and pocket book based on their own.

Don

 

[Matt_Jr]

This past weekend I worked a whole day on my bx. My back was killing me for 4 days. Couldn't imagine how much I'd be hurting had I used something smaller. Samething bigger would have helped while mowing, but I had to dig inside a garage, and that would have been quite a tight fit. What would be ideal is if I could have both the bx and a bigger tractor. That would be sweet.

 

[timswi]

Tim, maybe we should start a new thread "a B just isn't a BX"...One thing I've always thought was strange/funny is when Other people decide what's best for Your lifestyle and pocket book based on their own.

Don

Agree with you Don.

If this is a GT, try picking it up, by hand, and putting it in a pickup????

BX...Woo Hoo


Tim

 

[BigD23]

Agree with you Don.

If this is a GT, try picking it up, by hand, and putting it in a pickup????

BX...Woo Hoo


Tim

LOL Tim...Hey, how do you like that RTV500?

 

[Baucom]

This overgrown big box tractor is a strange comment. It appears that they don't know what this really is.

If this refers to my statement about SCUTs being overgrown GTs, then it's way out of context. I looked at BXs before I bought my GT. When I looked at it and sat on it, it reminded me of a JD X748, but with ROPS. The biggest differences were the hydraulics and the BX being a much better value. I won't go so far as to say that SCUTs will kill the premium large GT market (X700s, Legacy XL), but a significant # of buyers opt for a SCUT when they realize that a mower like a Legacy XL or JD X700 with awd, diesel, 3 pt, pto, fel, is thousands of dollars more than a comparable BX. In fact, a basic BX w/ MMM is not too much higher priced than a JD X540 and is a much more capable machine if anything more than cutting grass is desired. SCUTs meet their market segment perfectly, and it's the same segment of "estate" owners, hobby farmers, and gardeners that was targeted by JD 420/430 GTs 20-25 yrs ago. They can also be very handy on larger operations when a machine is needed to routinely work in tight spaces--there are others that may do it better, but few/none are available at the price that offer the same versatility.

 

[Volfandt]

Some interesting spec's....
Weights: (basic tractors, no FEL or BH per manuf listings)
BX2360.....1322 lbs
BX2660.....1359 lbs
BX25........1542 lbs (FEL & BH not included)
B2320......1433 lbs
B2320DTN.1334 lbs
B2620......1544 lbs
B2920......1544 lbs
Notes, both the BX & B come std w/Cat 1 3ph, rear 540 PTO and ROPS.
FEL and BH optional (except BX25 which comes std)

Super GT (for comparison).
JD X700...840 lbs
JD X749...1000lbs
Notes, Limited 3ph is an option, rear 540 PTO is an option, no ROPS.

Using these specs as a basis, the following can be assumed as to what constitues a SCUT/CUT from a GT.
1) Weight, non conclusive in diffferentiating a SCUT from a CUT but is a considerable difference when the CUT/SCUT is compared against the Super GT.
One BX model weighs in more than the two smallest B's and is within 2 lbs of the 2 largest.
while the Super GT weighs in at a minimum of 300 lbs less.

2) Rear PTO, non conclusive with exception to capacity.
Rear PTO, both the B & BX come std w/a 540 rer PTO.
re. Super GT, rear PTO is an expensive option.

3) CAT 1 3PH, non conclusive, with exception to capacity.
both the B & BX come std w/ a CAT 1 3PH.
re. Super GT, Limited Cat 1 3PH is an expensive option.

4) ROPS, both the B & BX come std w/a ROPS which is required by law for utility type tractors. The Super GT's do not require a ROPS and it isn't offered. (definite class distingusher).

Conclusion, If a Kubota B model is considered a tractor so should the BX.
The Super GT, while an excellent machine isn't in the SCUT/CUT class and when comparably eqt'ed as the smallest SCUT, it still has less capacity and can cost $1000.00's more.

Carry On

 

[BigD23]

Some interesting spec's....
Weights: (basic tractors, no FEL or BH per manuf listings)
BX2360.....1322 lbs
BX2660.....1359 lbs
BX25........1542 lbs (FEL & BH not included)
B2320......1433 lbs
B2320DTN.1334 lbs
B2620......1544 lbs
B2920......1544 lbs
Notes, both the BX & B come std w/Cat 1 3ph, rear 540 PTO and ROPS.
FEL and BH optional (except BX25 which comes std)

Super GT (for comparison).
JD X700...840 lbs
JD X749...1000lbs
Notes, Limited 3ph is an option, rear 540 PTO is an option, no ROPS.

Using these specs as a basis, the following can be assumed as to what constitues a SCUT/CUT from a GT.
1) Weight, non conclusive in diffferentiating a SCUT from a CUT but is a considerable difference when the CUT/SCUT is compared against the Super GT.
One BX model weighs in more than the two smallest B's and is within 2 lbs of the 2 largest.
while the Super GT weighs in at a minimum of 300 lbs less.

2) Rear PTO, non conclusive with exception to capacity.
Rear PTO, both the B & BX come std w/a 540 rer PTO.
re. Super GT, rear PTO is an expensive option.

3) CAT 1 3PH, non conclusive, with exception to capacity.
both the B & BX come std w/ a CAT 1 3PH.
re. Super GT, Limited Cat 1 3PH is an expensive option.

4) ROPS, both the B & BX come std w/a ROPS which is required by law for utility type tractors. The Super GT's do not require a ROPS and it isn't offered. (definite class distingusher).

Conclusion, If a Kubota B model is considered a tractor so should the BX.
The Super GT, while an excellent machine isn't in the SCUT/CUT class and when comparably eqt'ed as the smallest SCUT, it still has less capacity and can cost $1000.00's more.

Carry On

Interesting comparisons...You've deffinately done your homework.

Don

 

[LBrown59]

To me SCUTs are like my all in one fax copier scanner, its does it all but just not very good

No home work done here.

Don,
At least someone agrees with me...Although 1*LB will chime in,I'm sure..
This is built like a tank. Had it for 5 years, no problems at all. Has exceed all of my expectations, even the 3PT works well with a landscape rake and other attachments. Have to get a tooth bar for the loader, but that's on the to-do list.
The first year I had it, my German Shepard died on New Years Day. Had to bury her in wet clay in a downpour. Made this thing worth every penny that night. I'd still be digging, and that was 5 years ago.
The B guys need something bigger than a BX, so be it, I don't. I'm perfectly happy and would recommend the BX23 to anyone who asks.
2*This overgrown big box tractor is a strange comment. It appears that they don't know what this really is.

1*see above
2*Ignorance of a subject can have a very loud voice.

Tim,
1* maybe we should start a new thread "a B just isn't a BX"...
2*One thing I've always thought was strange/funny is when Other people decide what's best for Your lifestyle and pocket book based on their own.Don

1*Been considering it.
2*But the attidue generates odd silly comments.

Agree with you Don.
If this is a GT, try picking it up, by hand, and putting it in a pickup????
BX...Woo Hoo
Tim

Some interesting spec's....
Weights: (basic tractors, no FEL or BH per manuf listings)
BX2360.....1322 lbs
BX2660.....1359 lbs
BX25........1542 lbs (FEL & BH not included)
B2320......1433 lbs
B2320DTN.1334 lbs
B2620......1544 lbs
B2920......1544 lbs
Notes, both the BX & B come std w/Cat 1 3ph, rear 540 PTO and ROPS.
FEL and BH optional (except BX25 which comes std)

Super GT (for comparison).
JD X700...840 lbs
JD X749...1000lbs
Notes, Limited 3ph is an option, rear 540 PTO is an option, no ROPS.

Using these specs as a basis, the following can be assumed as to what constitues a SCUT/CUT from a GT.
1) Weight, non conclusive in diffferentiating a SCUT from a CUT but is a considerable difference when the CUT/SCUT is compared against the Super GT.
One BX model weighs in more than the two smallest B's and is within 2 lbs of the 2 largest.
while the Super GT weighs in at a minimum of 300 lbs less.

2) Rear PTO, non conclusive with exception to capacity.
Rear PTO, both the B & BX come std w/a 540 rer PTO.
re. Super GT, rear PTO is an expensive option.

3) CAT 1 3PH, non conclusive, with exception to capacity.
both the B & BX come std w/ a CAT 1 3PH.
re. Super GT, Limited Cat 1 3PH is an expensive option.

4) ROPS, both the B & BX come std w/a ROPS which is required by law for utility type tractors. The Super GT's do not require a ROPS and it isn't offered. (definite class distingusher).

Conclusion, If a Kubota B model is considered a tractor so should the BX.
1*The Super GT, while an excellent machine isn't in the SCUT/CUT class and when comparably eqt'ed as the smallest SCUT, it still has less capacity and can cost $1000.00's more.
Carry On

1*This is the fact that I get chastised for pointing out when comparing the JD X series garden tractors with the sub compacts.
Somehow people get the facts twisted up and arrive at the false conclusion that It's slamming JD in favor over another tractor brand.

Interesting comparisons...
1*You've deffinately done your homework.
Don

1*Yeah it makes a lot more sense than the obvious uninformed comments by some .

 

[Baucom]

X748:

wt.--1180 (3pt & pto would push this past 1200--couldn't find wts for these options)
3 pt lift--450 @ 12" behind balls
tires--(f) 18x8.50-10 (r) 26x12-12
G.C.--unavailable (checked Owners Manual--not listed in specs)
Hydraulic flow--N/A-at 1 time it was listed in the specs, I believe 4.5-5 gpm

BX2360

wt.--1322
3pt lift--670 @ 24" behind balls
tires--(f) 18x8.50-12 (r) 26x12-12
G.C.--8.7"
Hydraulic flow--6.3 gpm

B2320:

wt.--1433 (DT), 1477 (HSD)
3pt. lift--1058 @ 24" behind balls
tires--(f) 6-12 (r) 9.5-16
G.C.--12.0"
Hydraulic flow--8.3 gpm

The X748 is rated to lift approx 40% of its shipping wt on the 3 pt, BX2360 rated to lift 50% of its shipping wt on 3 pt, B2320 rated to lift 70% of its shipping wt on the 3pt, L3240 rated to lift 77% of its shipping wt on 3 pt. For its wt. the BX's 3 pt and hydraulic specs are much closer to those of the X748 than to those of the B2320.

What is the legal distinction between utility type tractors and GTs?

The BX is a very capable and versatile machine, but unlike a traditional tractor, compromises were made in its design in order to make it a better mower--pointing to its primary intended purpose as a finish mowing machine with secondary capabilities in property maintenance.