A BX just isn't a B. You have to try it to know the difference.

[JOHNTHOMAS]

When I buy any B, BX, L, F size Kubota tractor in Ky the for farm use/tax question is determined by me. If I sign a Ky state certificate that it is for farm use, no tax. I'm not willing to do this so I always pay sales tax on an outright purchase and tax on the difference when I trade. If sold out of state I don't think any tax is charged. Guess it's left up to buyer to decide how they deal with an out of state purchase with their state Revenue Agency.

 

[LBrown59]

LEBrown59,

I don't think it had anything to do with the brand as the dealer told me a B Series Kubota was classified as a "tractor" also. After a lot of research, I decided a B Series was not right for me, so I went with a BX and love it.

Since I have other tractors up to an 80 hp with FEL's and access to even bigger ones, the little bit of difference between the BX and B were unimportant and I just liked the BX better. I also like the BX a lot better than the John Deere 2305.

It most certainly involves brand .
Kubota BXs and the JD 2305 are basically the same comparable/completive machines.
For the state to require sales tax to be paid on one of them but not the other one is nothing but discrimination against one and showing favoritism to the other one.

This creates unfair compeation between farmers dealers customers and manufacturers.

 

[TripleR]

It most certainly involves brand .
Kubota BXs and the JD 2305 are basically the same comparable/completive machines.
For the state to require sales tax to be paid on one of them but not the other one is nothing but discrimination against one and showing favoritism to the other one.

This creates unfair compeation between farmers dealers customers and manufacturers.

According to the dealers the John Deere 2305 is a Compact Utility Tractor as is the Kubota B Series while the Kubota BX Series is a Subcompact Utility Tractor which is what I was told was the difference. Now there is always the possibility that both dealers didn't know what they were talking about as to the designations and or "rules/laws", but I didn't care enough to do the research.

I own several farms and often use the tax deferment for purchases, but am very careful to not even come close to the line and raise questions. I "might" have been able to sign the paperwork on the BX and "might" have been able to make the case, but it just wasn't worth the risk.

I worked in government long enough to know not to try to make sense out of the actions/rules/policies of same, but I do know one thing with certainty and that is they are not going to "favor" one brand over another when it comes to collecting revenue, they are going to take from ever one equally and with glee. Any disparity is going to come from some possibly mundane description buried within their manuals that will in turn be viewed as gospel.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Sometimes I miss LB's postings. Has he gone to the dark side and gone green?

 

[newbury]

Sometimes I miss LB's postings. Has he gone to the dark side and gone green?

You do know how to click on the user name and see his latests posts don't you?

This is my rig.


http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/...albums/kk286/lb59/?action=view､t=100_2588.jpg

posted 09-03-13

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

You do know how to click on the user name and see his latests posts don't you?

wELL, I GUESS I HADN'T MISSED HIS POSTS THAT MUCH TO GO TO THAT MUCH TROUBLE OR PUT THAT MUCH THOUGHT INTO IT. Oops, caps lock gets me every time since I type then look to see what I typed.

 

[TripleR]

You do know how to click on the user name and see his latests posts don't you?

wELL, I GUESS I HADN'T MISSED HIS POSTS THAT MUCH TO GO TO THAT MUCH TROUBLE OR PUT THAT MUCH THOUGHT INTO IT. Oops, caps lock gets me every time since I type then look to see what I typed.

We understand, technology can be a challenge for older folks...:laughing:

Before anyone gets excited, John and I are the same age.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

We understand, technology can be a challenge for older folks...:laughing:

Before anyone gets excited, John and I are the same age.

And we're distance buddies.:thumbsup:

 

[TripleR]

And we're distance buddies.:thumbsup:

Yep, sure are.:thumbsup:

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Another or more perspectives for the B or BX decision.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Bump by request.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Original post 10 years ago and still one of the top questions especially for first time tractor buyers.

 

[bunyip]

Still have a Fergusson TEA 20 which is a nasty piece 0of work and replaced it with a BX2370, perfect for us with some tight spots to get into and manoeuvre and a nice tight turn in the driveway when grading, only have a 3' harrow for the arena but it still doesn't take long .
We looked at Chinese tractors up to 40hp and whilst cheaper they lacked the build quality or ergonomics or both, pretty to look at but horrible to drive.
BX is easy to get aboard with my bad back and an Airhawk cushion made it comfortable to use for a couple of hours at a time.
Still use a ride on mower as even the BX won't turn on a long stretch of grass at the front of home, fence on one side a 6' ditch on the other, the ride on is low enough to get under the fence a bit to do a U turn, BX is too high and too long and I won't reverse the long distance I need to cut.
We use round bales to feed the horses and the BX can't lift these but it can roll them around and even onto a trailer to move them to where we want them.
With pallet forks I pick half drums of firewood and move to the back door of the house and I top up the raised garden beds with topsoil as needed.
100 litre sprayer fits in the bucket and a boom clamps on the bucket or I use a wand.
Using R4 tyres and haven't got stuck yet but have used the diff lock to get out a couple of times when it has been a bit boggy (I didn't think it was that boggy).
For our place it is perfect and I would buy another one tomorrow if I needed it, we are thinking of buying a bigger place and will see how it suits if this goes ahead, if I need a bigger tractor then I shall get one.

 

[check]

Some interesting spec's....
Weights: (basic tractors, no FEL or BH per manuf listings)
BX2360.....1322 lbs
BX2660.....1359 lbs
BX25........1542 lbs (FEL & BH not included)
B2320......1433 lbs
B2320DTN.1334 lbs
B2620......1544 lbs
B2920......1544 lbs
Notes, both the BX & B come std w/Cat 1 3ph, rear 540 PTO and ROPS.
FEL and BH optional (except BX25 which comes std)

Super GT (for comparison).
JD X700...840 lbs
JD X749...1000lbs
Notes, Limited 3ph is an option, rear 540 PTO is an option, no ROPS.

Using these specs as a basis, the following can be assumed as to what constitues a SCUT/CUT from a GT.
1) Weight, non conclusive in diffferentiating a SCUT from a CUT but is a considerable difference when the CUT/SCUT is compared against the Super GT.
One BX model weighs in more than the two smallest B's and is within 2 lbs of the 2 largest.
while the Super GT weighs in at a minimum of 300 lbs less.

2) Rear PTO, non conclusive with exception to capacity.
Rear PTO, both the B & BX come std w/a 540 rer PTO.
re. Super GT, rear PTO is an expensive option.

3) CAT 1 3PH, non conclusive, with exception to capacity.
both the B & BX come std w/ a CAT 1 3PH.
re. Super GT, Limited Cat 1 3PH is an expensive option.

4) ROPS, both the B & BX come std w/a ROPS which is required by law for utility type tractors. The Super GT's do not require a ROPS and it isn't offered. (definite class distingusher).

Conclusion, If a Kubota B model is considered a tractor so should the BX.
The Super GT, while an excellent machine isn't in the SCUT/CUT class and when comparably eqt'ed as the smallest SCUT, it still has less capacity and can cost $1000.00's more.

Carry On

Wow, that is indeed a surprise. I had no idea that my BX25 weighed as much as a B!

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Wow, that is indeed a surprise. I had no idea that my BX25 weighed as much as a B!

Ground clearance, in my opinion, is a primary reason for going from a BX to a small B. Going from a BX to a bigger B has more factors to consider with ground clearance and weight/traction and more powerful hydraulics and larger buckets being important factors.

 

[check]

Ground clearance, in my opinion, is a primary reason for going from a BX to a small B. Going from a BX to a bigger B has more factors to consider with ground clearance and weight/traction and more powerful hydraulics and larger buckets being important factors.

And my place is pretty flat with very few obstacles to drive over (even in the woods), so FEL and PTO power would be the main reasons for me to upgrade to a B. Not enough.

I would have to go up to something like an L3901, and the cost would not be worth it to me.

 

[DHD]

Interesting read, I do not wish to interrupt this B/BX comparison, but it brings up an issue I've been wondering about with BX transmission cooling fan.
A few years back I was considering a second tractor and was looking at another B or maybe a BX.
At the time there were a few threads that were addressing the cooling fan blades for the transmission on the BX. The plastic fan blades were being damaged/broken from debris like wood stick or small tree limbs. Replacing these plastic fan blades was time consuming resulting in high labor cost for replacing a fairly inexpensive plastic fan. Part of a possible solution was to add protective belly pans.
Has this issue with easily broken cooling fans been resolved ?

Sorry, I should have researched before posting.
I found a recent thread that address the BX hydro fan issue.
https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...st-fan-thinking-2.html?highlight=BX+hydro+fan

 

[wawajake]

My BX2660 is over ten years old now and it has been an all round workhorse as can be seen by my list of attachments used regularily !....However I always have wondered if the larger diameter wheels on the B model would of been noticeably better when it came to traction in mud ( ATV trail work) or for approaching and scooping from piles of dirt. I have found I lose traction far before I lose engine grunt. I have R4 tires.

 

[check]

My BX2660 is over ten years old now and it has been an all round workhorse as can be seen by my list of attachments used regularily !....However I always have wondered if the larger diameter wheels on the B model would of been noticeably better when it came to traction in mud ( ATV trail work) or for approaching and scooping from piles of dirt. I have found I lose traction far before I lose engine grunt. I have R4 tires.

Same here. I rarely run out of power before running out of traction with my BX25.

 

[PA452]

I just got stuck yesterday with my BX23. It's pretty easy to do. The tire treads fill up with mud very easily, it's a fairly heavy machine, and it just spins. Doesn't help that my rear diff lock doesn't work. Fortunately I've been able to get it out each time I've ever had it stuck between the FEL and the backhoe, just sometimes takes time.

I'm strongly considering upgrading to a B2601 or B2650 this year. I don't want to go too heavy as I still want to be able to transport it. Also don't want to go too big because I sometimes work in some semi tight areas, especially on trails. Right now I'm leaning toward the 2601.