How many "TnT" owners

[dcyrilc]

Couldn't you just plumb it like my front blade. Simple and this works to angle the blade. I don't know why this wouldn't work for tilt on a 3pt. Or am I missing something?

That should work, but that machine is really begging for some dirt time.

 

[dcyrilc]

Steve, I had thought more about what I was thinking when I posted earlier, and yes I have realized that the center has to be a fixed position. I think that in trying to get it to what I think would have been simple and not costly I just plain over looked the obvious.

I guess I missed that too.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

That should work, but that machine is really begging for some dirt time.

Come on now, those pics were taken just after I was done refurbishing it. It is a little dirtier now.

 

[jenkinsph]

The orientation of the cylinders really is not important. The check valves allow the cylinders to remain in phase, or lets them return to phase at the end of the stroke in either direction. I'd consider them necessary for implementation, but not function. Without the CVs, you'd be breaking fittings to bleed, fighting to regain any lost timing, fighting to achieve synchronization at end of stroke, etc. The CVs allow bypass flow around the piston when the cylinder is at the end of the stroke, letting the other cylinder travel to the end of its stroke when they are out of time.

I agree in theory about the orientation of the cylinders not being an issue but in real world practice the tilt cylinders clevis connections seem to be made for rod down installations and are not symetrical.

So if you install the check valves on one cylinder you can correct phasing issues, is there any need or advantage to having check valves on both cylinders? And does this address the leak down issues that others have talked about with top link cylinders? So far leak down hasn't been an issue for me because when in use I make enough minute adjustments in realtime so as not to notice.

Right now I have a Deere factory top and tilt kit and was considering buying the same tilt cylinder to add on since it has the proper mounting configuration. I will have to see about adding the check valves to it, if ithat is a pain I might be better served to try to get an aftermarket phasing cylinder with the proper bore, stroke and clevis arrangement.

My real reason for wanting to use a single circuit for both cylinders is that I use the joystick to control the top and tilt. On both my 4520 and 110tlb with diverters the joystick operates the same, pedals and transmissions are the same so it allows me to switch between either tractor without any extra thinking (which I am not good at).

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Is there going to be a problem with the balls in the hitch binding up with all the tilt that 2 cylinders are going to give you? I am pretty sure that they would on my tractors. Something that is easy to check out before a lot of time and $$$ is spent.

 

[dcyrilc]

Come on now, those pics were taken just after I was done refurbishing it. It is a little dirtier now.

Oh good, glad to hear it get fed the dirt it deserves. LOL

BTW, if that's the result of a refurb, nice job... it looked new!

 

[dcyrilc]

Is there going to be a problem with the balls in the hitch binding up with all the tilt that 2 cylinders are going to give you? I am pretty sure that they would on my tractors. Something that is easy to check out before a lot of time and $$$ is spent.

Rob (3rrl) hasn't mentioned any binding problems on his setup, but he does have independent controls.

 

[jenkinsph]

Is there going to be a problem with the balls in the hitch binding up with all the tilt that 2 cylinders are going to give you? I am pretty sure that they would on my tractors. Something that is easy to check out before a lot of time and $$$ is spent.

For my uses having two cylinders is the same tilt as using one cylinder and winding up the adjustable link tight or leesening it all the way. On my setup the stroke is 4 inches so no problems with that. If you had longer stroke cylinders say 8 inch that may very well be a problem.

 

[ronjhall]

I installed TnT on my Kubota B2910 10 years ago. Do not use it on all task, but it sure is great to have for landscaping projects.

 

[kruszert]

This looks like a very useful addition to my DK35. Now I have to figure out how to install and where to put the valves.

DK35vince - - if you are still reading this post would you mind giving me a little more info about your TnT set up.

Reggie