What to do with Bad Gas?

[polo1665]

They usually use deisel fuel but this will work if glyphosate is water soluable, i think it is. Around here at our dump/recyle centers for rural garbage/recycle collection, therre is a large metal collection station for just this. If it were me id pour it in there. But you may not have this. I burn trash several times a year so i would put it into empty 5 gallon hydro fluid pails mixed with deisel (so i could get my containers back) and use it to start fires. Oh i am a forester and over seeing logging operations there are always buckets where fluid is added for leaking hoses etc. It a hose blows all the fluid out of something they often times will use 5-10 buckets to fill a resivoir back up!!!

I did not get a chance to contact the local FD yesterday, if they won't take it I'll check into that land fill idea, thanks.
I've already got atleast 10 gallons of used hydro fluid and several gallons of used motor oil in the shop, I really don't want to keep the old gas around.

Mark

 

[polo1665]

You could contact these people and see what they came up with...

Hazardous waste disposal is topic - Canton, OH - CantonRep.com

That meeting was back in May, but the location is certainly nearby.

Could just go pour it out on a gravel road over an area just big enough that it doesn't puddle. That is if you don't get involved in the enviro hype surrounding its disposal.

Or leave in open containers and let it evaporate over time.

Not involved in any enviro hype, but don't particularly feel right about dumping it out on the ground, and as for leaving it to evaporate......this stuff stinks too bad for that.
Would not have any aversion to use it on burn piles, but I am afraid if it doesn't burn any better than it did in the car's engine it would be useless. It would also take me years to use up this way.

How about dumping it in the Gulf of Mexico?

Too far away, I'm afraid


Mark

 

[polo1665]

Funny, but bad taste currently I'm afraid.

That's what I said when I got a mouth full of it

Gas-x works for me.

Bean-o????

J

That kind of gas is easy to get rid of
Ya just let 'er rip, tater chip:laughing:

Mark

 

[SPYDERLK]

Please forgive the seemingly stupid question I am about to ask.
We recently decided to start driving a car that has sat idle for the last 7 years. Needless to say the gas is no good, we started the vehicle and it ran very badly.
I was advised to run the vehicle out of gas, but after a short drive I lost my nerve and decided to siphon the gas from the tank. After doing this and refilling with fresh gas and injector cleaner, the car is running 100% better.
Now the question..........I siphoned about 14 gallons of gas out of this vehicle, what do I do with the bad gas? Can I add an additive to the gas (octane boost) to make it useable in my mower, or am I stuck with using it to get fires going? I've got 3 gas cans tied up with this crap.
Any advise or knowledge on the subject from the group would be appreciated.

Mark

What to not do with it..... don't add good gas to the bad assuming that the bad will get sufficiently diluted/good to use in an internal combustion engine...don't ask how I know.

Also, crazy as it sounds, I tried to use old gas to start a fire to burn some trash....didn't work...I could drop a flame on the "gas" soaked material...no flame propagation ..had to put new diesel on it to get a fire started.

Adding it to good gas [in appropriate percentage] has always worked for me. I wouldnt try it for a chain saw, but it works fine in the old gas John Deere and in my Subaru. Thats a lot of energy to just throw away.
larry

 

[rd_macgregor]

Somebody suggested (in the Safety forum) killing ground-dwelling hornets with gas...I'll bet 14 gallons would kill a LOT of them!
If you can't find a use for it that you value, a hazmat disposal site is a good second choice. If there is no hazmat site available or if they charge significantly for disposal, I'd probably burn it off with a brush pile.
BOB

 

[rjkobbeman]

Adding it to good gas [in appropriate percentage] has always worked for me. I wouldnt try it for a chain saw, but it works fine in the old gas John Deere and in my Subaru. Thats a lot of energy to just throw away.
larry

Your answer would be my vote. Your highlighting of "it ran" was what I was thinking. It may have ran bad, but it did run. As long as the bad gas mixes with the good gas, at some percentage an engine will not know the difference.

Of course, I have many piles of trees that need to get burned... so I know where I would use it!

 

[polo1665]

Adding it to good gas [in appropriate percentage] has always worked for me. I wouldnt try it for a chain saw, but it works fine in the old gas John Deere and in my Subaru. Thats a lot of energy to just throw away.
larry

Your answer would be my vote. Your highlighting of "it ran" was what I was thinking. It may have ran bad, but it did run. As long as the bad gas mixes with the good gas, at some percentage an engine will not know the difference.

Of course, I have many piles of trees that need to get burned... so I know where I would use it!

Actually my initial post asked the question about adding something to the gas to make it useful again. I wouldn't be against using it if I knew that it would cause no harm to the engine. If mixing it with "fresh" gas would do the trick I would be willing to try it in my mower.
The car did run on the old gas, but ran very badly. The initial advice I received was to use up the old gas by driving the car around town for short trips. I was assured that it would do the engine no harm. After one trip, listening to the motor missing and the occasional small backfire I quickly lost my nerve and siphoned it out. I should mention that the car is a 1985 Corvette (if that makes any difference).
Fourteen gallons of gas at the prices around here is about $36, if there is any chance I could goof up the motor in my lawn tractor it wouldn't be worth the risk to me. However if the collective wisdom of the group here (who obviously know a lot more about this subject than I do) says its OK, I'll give it a try.

What do ya think, 50/50 mixture old/new?

Mark

 

[SPYDERLK]

What do ya think, 50/50 mixture old/new?Mark

50% or even more stale might be ok, but you have to decide whether more [or less] by empirical means. If you have a 4stroke lawnmower try half&half. Give it a good shaking in a clear container so you can see theres no separation. If it runs fine you might try a little more stale, up to where you can definitely see a problem then back off, to give you a feeling of the margin you want to use. - - Also there probably is some dried stale gas residue in the carb [if carb?] from sitting. This will dissolve slowly in regular use with fresh gas. However one very perplexing gotcha can happen early. ... Say you put in fresh gas, run it around the block .. perfect.:cloud9: Then you park it a day or 2. That fresh gas sitting stagnant in the bowl may dissolve enuf of the residue to flood the main jet with a mixture that wont ignite. Its a case where a trivial problem presents a dire appearing symptom. Just run the car regularly for awhile and it wont occur.:thumbsup:
larry

 

[DEWFPO]

I had a car that was in storage from 1995 to 2009. It has about 1/2 tank of very old fuel. I added 5 gallons of fresh gasoline to the 14 tear old fuel and it started after cranking a bit and ran decently well.

DEWFPO

 

[polo1665]

50% or even more stale might be ok, but you have to decide whether more [or less] by empirical means. If you have a 4stroke lawnmower try half&half. Give it a good shaking in a clear container so you can see theres no separation. If it runs fine you might try a little more stale, up to where you can definitely see a problem then back off, to give you a feeling of the margin you want to use. - - Also there probably is some dried stale gas residue in the carb [if carb?] from sitting. This will dissolve slowly in regular use with fresh gas. However one very perplexing gotcha can happen early. ... Say you put in fresh gas, run it around the block .. perfect.:cloud9: Then you park it a day or 2. That fresh gas sitting stagnant in the bowl may dissolve enuf of the residue to flood the main jet with a mixture that wont ignite. Its a case where a trivial problem presents a dire appearing symptom. Just run the car regularly for awhile and it wont occur.:thumbsup:
larry

OK, I'll give the 50/50 mixture a shot. It's got to be better than dumping the stuff out on the ground (I hope).
Thanks:thumbsup:
Mark