Tractor buying Advice - mowing, loader work, discing

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Hemsky01

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I have a 2 acre yard that I need a compact/subcompact tractor for. My uses of it would be mowing, loader work, and discing in that order. I have been trying to decide between a John Deere(new 1 series or a 2320) and Kubota(BX2320 or B2320). A couple of things that I need an opinion on:

1)I don't know if to buy a zero-turn mower(Z225 John Deere) and a compact tractor or just the compact tractor with the mower. I need a grass catcher so price wise, it comes out to about the same. I like the idea of only having one machine for Maintenance but can also see the advantage of having the mower on a seperate machine. I also think because the mower deck on the compact tractor is so expensive, it would last longer than the deck from a zero turn. I have about an acre of grass and don't really have that many obstacles to mow around.

2)For the mowing and the loader work and landscaping, a subcompact would be plenty for what I need but I am a little bit worried about the discing, cultivating. We live in West Texas where there is a lot of sand and wind and you really don't want to till the ground so to keep the weeds under control, discing is the best method. I am just wondering if anyone has any experience with pulling a small discer with one of the tractors that I have listed and how that worked. We also grow corn on the other acre of our property and I want to get a small cultivator to cultivate between the rows. Would a subcompact work for this kind of work or am I looking at a compact tractor? Some of the subcompact tractors also only have a limited category 1 3-pt hitch. Is that a big deal?

3)Kubota or John Deere
- I have been looking at different threads in this forum on this topic but would still appreciate any advice with the tractors I am looking at. The John Deere dealer is local but has very little inventory to look at or test and is a little more expensive than the Kubota that is an hour away with a lot of inventory. I am kind of leaning toward John Deere but have not made up my mind.

**I know there are more threads like this but I really appreciate any advice, especially when I'm looking at spending $18000.
 
/ Tractor buying Advice - mowing, loader work, discing #2  
I'm thinking you need to look at a compact instead of subcompact size, if only because of your gardening needs. The subcompacts have limited ground clearance, which may limit ability to cultivate and such. The 2320 size machines from Kubota and Deere would be my starting point. As between the green and orange brands, take your pick... they are both fine companies that make excellent products. Find the one you like and a good dealer to buy it from.

Either one will take standard Cat I implements and should be able to pull a small 3pt disc. Both should handle mowing chores very well.

If you weren't trying to do some gardening without a tiller, the subcompacts would be fine for your needs. Same considerations would apply regarding brand.

Dropping the mower deck for other chores is not a big deal. Unless you have money to burn, I wouldn't see the need for a separate ZTR for 2 acres of property.
 
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BPFick on the Kubota forum recently wrote a good evaluation of the BX vs B as he traded his BX in for a B due to it not being a good fit for his gardening. These points are not Kubota specific.

As to John Deere or Kubota, I agree both are good tractors and the "right" one is going to be the one that fits you the best.

With so little to mow and little obstacles, I see no need for a second machine and you might even want to consider a RFM or flail as opposed to MMM.
 
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On the rear mower, I need to bag the grass so that is not an option. What gets me is the power bagging system on the compacts is $2000. Has anybody had success with pulling a sweeper instead of bagging the grass? A sweeper is only a couple hundred bucks
 
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On the rear mower, I need to bag the grass so that is not an option. What gets me is the power bagging system on the compacts is $2000. Has anybody had success with pulling a sweeper instead of bagging the grass? A sweeper is only a couple hundred bucks

We use a sweeper we bought for about $400.
 
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Another thing to research due to comments on this board is the mower height adjustment of the John Deere 2320 and the geometry of the Kubota's B2320 front wheels in regard to not being turf friendly. These are really the only negatives I've heard about with the two small compacts.

Some say no biggie to both and some find these issues as a real pia. Good luck and let us know what you do, with pictures of course. :thumbsup:
 
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TripleR
How does that sweeper work for you?
 
/ Tractor buying Advice - mowing, loader work, discing #8  
TripleR
How does that sweeper work for you?

It works surprisingly well. I have to admit I was a little skeptical as my brother in law swears by his gas powered vacuum, but I didn't want to spring for one.

We bought ours at Sears, but I am sure there are other good ones.
 
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Has anybody priced out a 2320 John Deere/kubota tractor with a Mid mount mower and loader recently?
 
/ Tractor buying Advice - mowing, loader work, discing #10  
I would go with either the BX, B, or the 2320. (oh, and it's a BX2360) I would NOT buy a ZTR if your getting a tractor in the size range that your talking about...Also think about a Cyclone Rake/Trac Vac instead of the grass catcher...
 
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On the cyclone rake/trac vac: how does it work? What is the cost? Would it pick up grass burrs (stickers as we call them in Texas)? Do you think it would work better than a sweeper?
 
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On the cyclone rake/trac vac: how does it work? What is the cost? Would it pick up grass burrs (stickers as we call them in Texas)? Do you think it would work better than a sweeper?

Not sure about the stickers...What do you mean by sweeper? Something like this? Brinly-Hardy Lawn Sweeper — 42in., Model# STS-42LXH | Lawn Sweepers | Northern Tool + Equipment

Here are links for the Cyclone Rake & Trac Vac:

The Cyclone Rake - America's Most Popular Leaf Vacuum
Trac Vac Outdoor Lawn Vacuum, Leaf Vacuum & Grass debris Lawn Vac
 
/ Tractor buying Advice - mowing, loader work, discing #13  
On the cyclone rake/trac vac: how does it work? What is the cost? Would it pick up grass burrs (stickers as we call them in Texas)? Do you think it would work better than a sweeper?



I don't have any experience with the sweepers but I do have plenty of experience with the stickers or goatheads. What I did was till everything up and plant tall fescue grass, it took over and I don't have anymore stickers.:thumbsup:
 
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with a small scut for that work I'd get a finish mower for it and save the money on the ztr. for a 2ac plot you don't need a huge machine.. liely 24hp or less will do ya..

soundguy
 
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You could do the work you listed with an X748, 1023, 1026,2305, 2320 and 2520. I would prefer the 2320 or 2520 with a 200CX loader and would point out the 2520 with the larger hydraulic pump will be faster for loader work.

On my X749 I have the pto and limited cat 1 hitch, it works better than I expected but isn't as good as the 2320 and up with position control. If you are going to have one tractor to do it all including fel work, mowing and 3 pt hitch work that you describe I think larger 2520 is the way to go. A little more money but a much better chance you will be satisfied with its performance long term. This would be the tractor that is one size up from what you need.
 
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Has anybody priced out a 2320 John Deere/kubota tractor with a Mid mount mower and loader recently?

My Kubota B2320 was 15,900 + tax with FEL and MMM. That was suppose to include delivery but I ended up picking it up myself. A good price IMO...not the best but not the worst.

I went with the Kubota over the Deere for a couple reasons. The Kubota had a 3 range hydro. Huge factor for me. Also...on the Deere the loader hoses hung down below the tractor just asking to be ripped off. Did not like that. I really wanted a Deere as it is just American to own a Deere but those two factors pushed me to the Kubota. Plus...the Kubota is made by Kubota. The Deere has position control which you may be interested in for plowing but it was not an issue for me. Some people complain about the pedals...that's just something you will get used to on either.
 
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Do you think I could do the discing with a 1023 or 1026?

The only thing I am scared of with a 2520 is that it will tear up my grass or leave tire tracks? Does anybody have a 2520 that they mow with that could share your experience?

I agree with you to always go one tractor size up. The other thing is the extra money from a 2320 to a 2520.:(

You could do the work you listed with an X748, 1023, 1026,2305, 2320 and 2520. I would prefer the 2320 or 2520 with a 200CX loader and would point out the 2520 with the larger hydraulic pump will be faster for loader work.

On my X749 I have the pto and limited cat 1 hitch, it works better than I expected but isn't as good as the 2320 and up with position control. If you are going to have one tractor to do it all including fel work, mowing and 3 pt hitch work that you describe I think larger 2520 is the way to go. A little more money but a much better chance you will be satisfied with its performance long term. This would be the tractor that is one size up from what you need.
 
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What size MMM and FEL did you get? I think you got a pretty good price compared to the prices I am getting. I do really like the 3 range hydro on the Kubota versus the 2 range on the John Deere. I am like you: I really want a John Deere but I am starting to lean toward Kubota because of features and $$$.

My Kubota B2320 was 15,900 + tax with FEL and MMM. That was suppose to include delivery but I ended up picking it up myself. A good price IMO...not the best but not the worst.

I went with the Kubota over the Deere for a couple reasons. The Kubota had a 3 range hydro. Huge factor for me. Also...on the Deere the loader hoses hung down below the tractor just asking to be ripped off. Did not like that. I really wanted a Deere as it is just American to own a Deere but those two factors pushed me to the Kubota. Plus...the Kubota is made by Kubota. The Deere has position control which you may be interested in for plowing but it was not an issue for me. Some people complain about the pedals...that's just something you will get used to on either.
 
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What size MMM and FEL did you get? I think you got a pretty good price compared to the prices I am getting. I do really like the 3 range hydro on the Kubota versus the 2 range on the John Deere. I am like you: I really want a John Deere but I am starting to lean toward Kubota because of features and $$$.

It is the 60" MMM and I got the 304 FEL. If I was to do it again I think I'd consider trying to get the 364 loader on the 2320. Most dealers don't like to do that as they would rather sell you a 2620 but I have heard of several people getting the 364 on the 2320. You are right....I did forget to mention that the Kubota was a few hundred less.
 

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