1715 Info

[whodat526]

node just a single clutch with a built in over run coupler

 

[billybobjimmyjoejack]

The first thing I have to do is compliment the New Holland service department guys that I spoke with (Messick's and Corvalis New Holland) about the "recall" of the 1715 for the cotter pin in the bell housing. No such "recall" was made and no "service bulletins" were issued according to their data base that is only accessible to dealers with a "dealer code". Andy with Messick's was very familiar with the "jiggle drain" in the bell housing and he had not heard of anything out of the ordinary in respect to any problems with the design or installation of the cotter pin and he also stated that water could enter the bell housing in many small areas.
On the question of the transmission it is referred to as a 9 X 3 (3 speed transmission with a 3 speed rear diff.) I have the original owners manual that came with the tractor and it clearly states on page 14 "When in motion, always depress the clutch pedal fully and bring the tractor to a complete stop before moving either gearshift lever. Do not attempt to change gears while the tractor is motion." Which translates to no synchros.
The clutch is a single clutch design and not a two stage design. I was not able to find in the New Holland parts breakdown an "over run coupler".
I am interested in getting accurate and concise information on this tractor because I own one and do all of the work myself and I want it to last and function as it was intended with little or no breakdowns. If there is a source that is different than the manufacturer for updates I would hope that previous responders would state their references.

 

[whodat526]

The first thing I have to do is compliment the New Holland service department guys that I spoke with (Messick's and Corvalis New Holland) about the "recall" of the 1715 for the cotter pin in the bell housing. No such "recall" was made and no "service bulletins" were issued according to their data base that is only accessible to dealers with a "dealer code". Andy with Messick's was very familiar with the "jiggle drain" in the bell housing and he had not heard of anything out of the ordinary in respect to any problems with the design or installation of the cotter pin and he also stated that water could enter the bell housing in many small areas.
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they must not have sold many or have not worked on many i have one in my shop right now that my dad sold when in the newholland business that the clutch is rust up and this tractor sleeps inside at the man that owns its house. this is the 3 1715 this month and they all had the jiggle plug in upside down and yes when my father was a new holland dealer they brought just about every one of the tractors in he sold and split them to fix this per the newholland rep.

and did you ask them if the the head of the cotter pin went inside the bellhousing or out side it makes a big difference

 

[barbqranch]

So, which is correct, head in the transmission, or out by the ground? I need to check mine.

 

[billybobjimmyjoejack]

Yes I did and the response from both was it did not matter because the cotter pin will jiggle in either orientation. I have to go by what the manufacturer has in there data base and no information is in there data base for this issue. If you are able to provide a document that proves other wise I would like to see it. You may not understand that the data base that Case New Holland has is an international data base and it would hold all of the information that would be from the past and present which would included any "recall" information especially one that would be authorized by a "rep". I believe that the manufacturer has the correct information in this case and I stand by what I have stated and I am not going to change anything on my tractor.

 

[whodat526]

Yes I did and the response from both was it did not matter because the cotter pin will jiggle in either orientation. I have to go by what the manufacturer has in there data base and no information is in there data base for this issue. If you are able to provide a document that proves other wise I would like to see it. You may not understand that the data base that Case New Holland has is an international data base and it would hold all of the information that would be from the past and present which would included any "recall" information especially one that would be authorized by a "rep". I believe that the manufacturer has the correct information in this case and I stand by what I have stated and I am not going to change anything on my tractor.

well all the ones i have worked on that is in that series of tractor if the head of the cotter pin was in the trans ment no rust if the legs where in the the trans must a rusted stuck clutch i have worked on about 20 of them and yes i know nh well my father was a nh dealer for 25 years. and the service rep for are area who is still a good family friend had them change the clutches in alot of them even when they was out of warranty at nh expense.