VERY expensive beet juice!

[Emagri]

Take a look to this product. It is mainly for otr tires, but i heard is great in farm tractors.

http://www.fullerbros.com/wp-content/uploads/FB_TL_Brochure_1222_r2.pdf

 

[IslandTractor]

Take a look to this product. It is mainly for otr tires, but i heard is great in farm tractors.

http://www.fullerbros.com/wp-content/uploads/FB_TL_Brochure_1222_r2.pdf

I'm unimpressed. It is sold to reduce tire temperatures. That might be important with a megadump truck but it is hardly an issue for tractors. It also is supposed to reduce loss of air pressure. My tires have not needed any air added in four years.

Doesn't sound like a CUT product to me.

 

[aczlan]

For ag tractors (tillage) extra weight is a given, be it suitcase or liquid.
But is it all that important for these new fangled CUTs that mows lawns, moves snow, or ventures into the forest for firewood? A set of tire chains is WAAAY cheaper than anything you put on or in your machine to increase its weight.

We have a B7500 that is used to mow, till and work with a loader. It needs to have the rear tires loaded because when you have a full bucket (especially when moving snow), the rear tires are very light.

Aaron Z

 

[Short Game]

Ever wonder why Dr. Pepper goes down so smooth compared to other soft drinks? Read the label- propylene glycol!

...and he is a doctor!


I think I'll end up using ethanol, just in case I drink it.

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That's not a bad idea! Get me some plastic trashcans full of cracked corn, scald it, wait for it to drop to about 88 degrees, put in some sprouted barley, let it work until it stops, strain off the corn and feed it to the stock, and fill the tires with the juice.

 

[Soundguy]

Kinda like a couple of years back when I posted about methanol mixed with water for tire ballast. Had a good many post that the tires could explode. LOL That went on and on till others posted they used it too and was common from here down south and west too. We started filling tires with the methanol water mix in the late 70's. Never seen one burn or blow up. LOL Heck it doesn't even kill the grass. Can't think of anything that's lower in cost that will not freeze and is safe to use.

yep.. ww fluid essentially.

btdt.. didn't die, blow up or burn... still here..

soundguy

 

[rd_macgregor]

Somebody mentioned whey and it rang a faint bell with me. Sure enough, CMA (calcium magnesium acetate) is derived from whey and is used in some places as a deicing fluid. As a deicer it is only practical down to about 18F, but as a 32% solution in a container it is good down to -18F or so (and lower than that at somewhat higher concentrations. Best of all, it is dramatically less corrosive than CaCl.
What I don't know is where one can buy CMA (I think it is sold as a powder in bulk) or what it might cost...though an article I saw said it was $500 to $700 per ton (of dry powder) from acetate produced from natural gas and another article said actetate from whey fermentation and extraction would be about 30% cheaper than from "conventional" production methods.
Have any of you folks additional information about CMA, or ideas about whether it might be a practical (and cost-effective) filler for tractor tires? I know maple syrup would be way too expensive!:laughing:
BOB

 

[Ford tractor]

After all of these replies about glycol, only one of them acknowledges that the rimgaurd is actually heavier. Rimgaurd, around 40% heavier per gallon than glycol, why would anyone even consider filling their tires with anything else?

$$$$$$ You can buy CaCl2 in bags, mix it and fill for a tiny fraction of having RG installed.

Ca/CL isn't a sudden death syndrome as it is portrayed. I've had Ca/Cl in the rears on my MF150 since the day after I bought it....In May of 1971. SO FAR....there is NO rust on either rear wheel. And that's after several punctures, tire/tube changes, ect. I've got dads old Ferguson F40 out behind the barn awaiting restoration. Ca/Cl has been in those rears since 1957. Same story.....no rust.

If you're the type that neglects maintenance, and would let a tire sit and leak for months on end, maybe you should find another fill material. If you take even as much as "average care" of your equipment, Ca/Cl isn't nearly as harmful as is imagined by some.

We all know rust needs oxygen to form. As long as you fill the rims up OVER the top of the metal, little exposure to oxygen. If you "go nuts" and fill the tire with N2 as is all the rage, it won't rust EVER. Just as long as you keep topping off with N2.

yep.. here it's 75$ just for the 'farm call, then the meter starts running for the labor.. usualy minimum charge is 175$ PLUS the farm call.

that's 250$ minimum... that's the price of a 11.2-28 tire new...

I squeak too much when i walk to give someone else the value of a new rear tire if i can do it myself and have the time to do so.

soundguy

I can't comment on your squeaky walk, but totally agree with keeping money in my wallet rather than pay for simple tasks.

I'm all for WWF but I'm NOT planning to handle 150 jugs. CaCl2 is going to be convenient as my dealer will just deal with it.

I'm still holding out for a decent deal of beet juice or bulk WWF. Also looking to see where I can find Methanol in the appropriate quantity.

FWJ and SoundGuy's posts regarding some perspective on the evil CaCl2 had had me re-thinking about the classic option that everyone knows about here. Everyone looks at me like I have two horns when I suggest I don't want to ballast with it because it is corrosive. They response is 'yeah thats why you use tubes'

Is it really possible to have a leak go without you finding it really causing damage with CaCl2? My tire guy says that you just want to watch for the valves after around 10 years.

A buddy has a 1955 ford 640 with original rims and tires. It's had a loader on since new and CaCl2 in the rims the whole time. It still chugs along just fine. Heck, the fuel stop valve leaks dramatically more than the tires and gasoline is FAR more hazardous than CaCl2 both to the environment and health when drunk. (yes, animals do drink gas if you leave it out!) The reason thetire guys look at you askance is because they have very little issue with the stuff. Your tire guy and "farmwithjunk" are both correct -- keep the tires full and you won't have issues for many decades.

 

[Short Game]

I know maple syrup would be way too expensive!:laughing:
BOB

I was the one who mused about whey. I just remember some dairy getting nailed for dumping it into a bay. I know that there are plenty of industries that have waste byproducts that they would love to see disappear. Not all of them are dangerous, and some of them must have high specific gravities and low freezing points.

Your mention of maple syrup got me to thinking too. I have, 25 years ago, sugared our NW big leaf maples. It takes a cold winter like we got back then to do it, but you never know, this could be one of those winters. The raw sap freezes, but more like milk than water. Crystals form all through it as it freezes. Anyway, the raw sap will sour quickly. But, one would not have to cook it down all the way to syrup to achieve a low freezing point, and boiling would preserve it, as well as it would likely raise the gravity. I can remember collecting as much as 100 gallons of sap in a season. It was a lot of work though. I suppose if I did all that work, I'd want the syrup. Just thinking is all...

 

[Farmwithjunk]

2 weeks ago was the Fall Bourbon Festival in Bardstown Kentucky. That's smack in the middle of the Kentucky Bourbon Trail (tourist route to visit all the biggest names in the bourbon industry) Some of the local "watering holes" over bought for the festival, which led to a free bourbon tasting last friday evening at a cafe we like to eat at. 20 1/2oz sample shots free with dinner! Picked me a new favorite to go with an old standby!

Might I suggest filling your tires with Elijah Craig 18 Year Old, or maybe Wild Turkey Rare Breed. That way you can look forward to the next leaky tire! And it will not freeze in the worst of winters!

Best guess estimate, it MIGHT cost well into the thousands to fill a 14.9X28 rear tire, but think of the possibilities for all those empty charred oak barrels!

 

[IslandTractor]

2 weeks ago was the Fall Bourbon Festival in Bardstown Kentucky. That's smack in the middle of the Kentucky Bourbon Trail (tourist route to visit all the biggest names in the bourbon industry) Some of the local "watering holes" over bought for the festival, which led to a free bourbon tasting last friday evening at a cafe we like to eat at. 20 1/2oz sample shots free with dinner! Picked me a new favorite to go with an old standby!

Might I suggest filling your tires with Elijah Craig 18 Year Old, or maybe Wild Turkey Rare Breed. That way you can look forward to the next leaky tire! And it will not freeze in the worst of winters!

Best guess estimate, it MIGHT cost well into the thousands to fill a 14.9X28 rear tire, but think of the possibilities for all those empty charred oak barrels!

Sounds like a great idea. I'd be concerned however that contact with the tire might change the flavor just a tad. You'd need to check, probably daily, to make sure there was no such deterioration. Of course you wouldn't want the wheels to become unbalanced so it would be necessary to check both sides (daily).

Let us know how it goes.

And, I am impressed if you drank all 20 half oz sample shots at one sitting. I trust you walked or got a ride home.