Buying Advice New 2012 Model Year ?

[jonyyuma]

What about the strictor type of diesels? Soot controls?

 

[Artisan]

Unless I was lied to, and since I posted this thread, I have spoken w/ a distribution center head and I was told that there are no replacements for the BX25 in 2012. So today I bought THIS! WooHOO! Tomorrow she will be born at my doorstep. Proud I be! She's a real looker! :thumbsup:

 

[sw03]

I predict that we see a new BX25/26 model that will have either the new 25 horse motor - or the same motor at the bx2660.

Why? Because the bx25/26 is the heaviest duty of the bx line, AND the bigger motor would match the heavier uses of the product.

I do not think so. Why since a more HP will do nothing since the thing is too light. Add more weight and why not by a B series.

Add in the new EPA issues, the unit will not be cost effective. I say it will say as is, maybe minor improvements, for about 2 to 4 more years.

 

[AxleHub]

The reason i believe a new bx25/26 may come in 2012 is three fold:
1. The new 25 hp motor could allow better efficiency matching of gear/axle ratio to torque band to rpm levels. Why would that be important? Because it would promote even better fuel and power efficiency and emission level reductions.

2. The logic is currently lacking in the bx product line that the most "capable" unit in the BX line only has a medium line engine size. Think about it, a bx2660 is not "supposed" to be superior to the bx25 in size or capacity. In addition, it would allow Kubota to unify the product numbering with the product descriptions and specifications.

3. Finally, "change sells" - and in difficult economic conditions, Kubota would want to keep new life and new interest in a very beneficial market area of new sales. The bx is the path to future B and l upgrades.

To summarize my thought. . . . . Improved product and efficiency . . . . New, fresh, and logical product positioning. . . . Improved marketing benefits.

 

[Artisan]

Before I bought, I asked questions, specifically I asked a gent named

Mr. Americana or something similar at the Lodi California Distribution facility if there were any plans for a newer revised model and he was not sure, he asked for my number and he reserched it and called me back and said "NO new BX25 for 2012" . I gues they, dealers managers etc, just had a pow-wow recently as well, FWIW

I have another 48.5 hours to put on my engine before I rev it to redline, then I will see it's real potential. I received my BX25 TODAY and I am in tractor heaven right now...I didn't expect it to be a monster, but certainly it is a tad more powerful than I expected. Sure, a few more ponys under the hood would be nice I bet, but hey...IT IS A WINNER in my book...:thumbsup:

 

[sw03]

The reason i believe a new bx25/26 may come in 2012 is three fold:
1. The new 25 hp motor could allow better efficiency matching of gear/axle ratio to torque band to rpm levels. Why would that be important? Because it would promote even better fuel and power efficiency and emission level reductions.

2. The logic is currently lacking in the bx product line that the most "capable" unit in the BX line only has a medium line engine size. Think about it, a bx2660 is not "supposed" to be superior to the bx25 in size or capacity. In addition, it would allow Kubota to unify the product numbering with the product descriptions and specifications.

3. Finally, "change sells" - and in difficult economic conditions, Kubota would want to keep new life and new interest in a very beneficial market area of new sales. The bx is the path to future B and l upgrades.

To summarize my thought. . . . . Improved product and efficiency . . . . New, fresh, and logical product positioning. . . . Improved marketing benefits.

1) and the new Hp motor will do what? How about the pressure issues? Better fuel based on what? Weight issues? Parts issues?

2) At this point/price, buy a b-series and skip the bx

3) change sells to some owners, not all. I still like my old bx22 vs my bx24..

 

[AxleHub]

1) and the new Hp motor will do what? How about the pressure issues? Better fuel based on what? Weight issues? Parts issues?

2) At this point/price, buy a b-series and skip the bx

3) change sells to some owners, not all. I still like my old bx22 vs my bx24..

Change sells to NEW customers - getting something different than the rest.

Ask yourself a simple question :
the 18 horse is a bx18-- and the 23 horse is the bx23-- and the 26 horse is the bx26--. So how long would you expect the most expensive product in that product line to have a 23 horse motor and be called a Bx25???

 

[AxleHub]

1) and the new Hp motor will do what? How about the pressure issues? Better fuel based on what? Weight issues? Parts issues?

in 1999 Honda created a great minivan. 5 years later they took a great minivan with the SAME size motor, and managed to gain a 20% hp increase plus a 7 to 8% efficiency gain at the same time.

Toyota and Nissan did the same. I think Kubota has at least as much skill in designing and building. I continue to believe that sometime in 2012 a new or upgraded product appears in the bx series. Why? Because it is the hottest series in Kubota for a difficult economy.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Why? Because it is the hottest series in Kubota for a difficult economy.

Actually no. Right now its farm tractors that are impressing everyone, construction equipment is also growing again, consumer products (like BX's) have been doing just okay. We're all pretty happy with the current product, I'd rather see them stick with whats working for awhile and come out with somthing truly innovative than just jockying around engine options. We don't need most of the power that these things already have.

 

[AxleHub]

Actually no. Right now its farm tractors that are impressing everyone, construction equipment is also growing again, consumer products (like BX's) have been doing just okay. We're all pretty happy with the current product, I'd rather see them stick with whats working for awhile and come out with somthing truly innovative than just jockying around engine options. We don't need most of the power that these things already have.

You are far better informed than I. I'd spoken with several dealers that told me their larger tractor customers - often started with bx or b units and added larger units later as needs grew with them. Has that been your experience?

These dealers also mentioned that in some years, they've been surprised in March or April by new model numbers or product update/upgrades. As an example, one dealer ordered GR2110 product in spring of 2011 - only to find out a month or so later that the new GR2120 product and brochures was out . . . So they still have one of the GR2110 products on their lot - and nothing but GR2120 brochures (new product but a year old model they just got this spring.)