Mx5100 let me down!

[CJBOTA]

Roy you were right, I had the pedal to the medal. I understand what you are saying. Slowing down a little will keep the rpms up and keep the thing from dying. You were wrong though about me being new to tractors. Although I don't run them for a living I have been around them for about 40 years. Besides the Kubota I have a David brown 880 and a 1200. We also have an old Oliver that I can't remember the model number, but I think is around 75 or 80 HP. All those tractors are gear models and even the 880 is heavier then the Kubota. You could say I'm a little new to HST, however I have also owned a B2920 and a L3700 which were HST's. The David Brown 1200 has a bucket and loaded tires and probably would have handled this job. I took the Kubota because I thought this was a stove not a furnace. I keep the Kubota at my house the other tractors are on the other side of our property which is about 1/2 mile away. I'm not sure I understood the comment about hooking to the inside of the bucket. The biggest problem with the lift was it was so high. Imight not of rolled if i would have left it find center but I was trying to error on the safe side. There were two guys watching and they said I came up way too far on one side. That pretty much matched how I felt. As far as the power is concerned, my heavy 300 gallon Rears airblast sprayer will give the MX5100 all the tests she needs this summer. Late last fall when the sprayer arrived we calibrated it to the tractor. We had to set the variable pitch blower blades in the mid position because the MX5100 couldn't make 540 RPM with max air blast. We were also putting out about 12 GPM at 300 psi on the pump. Plus the 2000 lb weight of the sprayer and whatever 300 gallons of water weighs. In hindsight I probably should have bought a M7040. On the plus side I will run the sprayer with the tractor in low range. If it don't work I'll just use the Daid Brown 1200.
CJ

 

[RoyJackson]

Roy you were right, I had the pedal to the medal. I understand what you are saying. Slowing down a little will keep the rpms up and keep the thing from dying. You were wrong though about me being new to tractors...

No offense meant...just the way I read that post lead me to believe you were new...but posts and the way someone interprets them can be wrong, as it was in my case.

 

[CJBOTA]

Roy,
No offense taken. I appreciate your advice. I have been on the forum for quite some time so I know you have helped alot of people. Besides the J in my signature stands for Jackson and we Jackson's got to stick together. I share those old tractor's I mentioned with my brother-inlaw. Our father-inlaw passed away about 10 years ago and left us all the equipment and the farm to share and enjoy. He was a great man and a farmer. I was a city boy and if I would have known I was going to get into farming I would have paid closer attention to what he was doing. He made everything look easy. At one time he had over 10,000 peach trees. I gave the first peach I grew and picked to my 84 year old mother-inlaw. It was quite an emotional experience. I am going to retire from my real job next year and become a full time hobby farmer. I currently have over 2000 trees and plan to add probably another 1000 but not any more then that. Thanks again for your advice.
CJ

 

[brewdog]

A thousand pound lift is not much for a 50HP tractor especially the 5100 with a 6' bucket. Certainly I agree that tractors should be ballasted, but that's probably 50% of what that machine's FEL can lift. If that thing is off the ground with that much weight, it needs go back to the factory or dealer for proper engineering or additional weight. Virtually every bucket full of dirt, wet chips or gravel is at least a 1/2 ton. That was not a big lift by any stretch.
my 2 cents.

 

[bucktaker]

i used my L5740 to load a round bale into a customers pick up. I picked up the bale and drove onto my driveway to wait. it was cold and their was ice on the pavement. I shut the tractor off and lowered the box blade. I dismounted and started to walk way.... I looked at my rear tires and then seemed high. I could rotate the rear tires.... I got back on, started the tractor raised the 3pt and lowered the bale....... Ordered rimguard the next week

 

[crazyal]

One thing you need to remember is the front axle pivots. That means that you really only have one contact point in the front of the tractor until it leans far enough to the side when you hit the hard stop. So getting one of the rear wheels off of the ground is much easier than you realize without enough counter weight. I have an old 55 gallon drum full of cement for the 3pt. Even going down hills in 2wd can be tricky without rear weight.

 

[CJBOTA]

Crazyal,
I was at my dealer yesterday and I was telling my mechanic (who also farms) what happened and he told me the exact same thing that you are pointing out. In thinking about it, I was on soft ground, when all that weight went to the one front wheel it caused it to sink a little before it bottomed out which magnified the problem. My mechanic said if I would have kept going I probably would have been ok. I really wonder if he would have said the same thing if he was the one on the tractor. Anyway thanks for your advice.
CJ

 

[scoutcub]

Hey CJ -
You'r not too far away, I'm south of Canton.


Frank

 

[General Lee]

A thousand pound lift is not much for a 50HP tractor especially the 5100 with a 6' bucket. Certainly I agree that tractors should be ballasted, but that's probably 50% of what that machine's FEL can lift. If that thing is off the ground with that much weight, it needs go back to the factory or dealer for proper engineering or additional weight. Virtually every bucket full of dirt, wet chips or gravel is at least a 1/2 ton. That was not a big lift by any stretch.
my 2 cents.

The thing is we don't know the actual weight of the furnace he lifted. The weight was estimated. I do agree tractors should be engineered to lift a full bucket of "common" material, such as loose stone, wet dirt, etc. Sometimes the loader on my L4400 disappoints me and sometimes I'm OK with it. I do think the hydro pressure is set to low and one of these days I'll get it checked. A couple weeks ago I was loading asphalt millings into a small dump truck. On a heaping bucket full, I was unable to lift to max height. I was able to clear the sides of the dump truck to dump but was disappointed it wouldn't lift another foot or so to get to max height. Tractor rear stayed put, I had 1,000 pounds of ballast. I'd like to know how much a bucket full of millings weighs?

 

[LD1]

I'd like to know how much a bucket full of millings weighs?

Probabally not as much as the mud you had packed around your front axle in your avitar:laughing: Got a story behind that pic:licking:

Seriously though, according to what I could find online, asphalt is ~145lb/cu ft. And my L3400 heaped I think is like 9 cu/ft (1/3 yd) so your 1ft wider bucket should be closer to 11 or 12 cu-ft heaped.So thats somewhere between 1600 and 1800lbs. Just guessing though. Which probabally isnt bad since the capacity of your loader is like ~1550lbs @ bucket center. Asphalt is a good bit heavier than sand, stone, or dirt by volume as you can see. Same volume of sand would have been ~500lbs less.

Also keep in mind that the loaders on the economy L-series arent nearly as strong as kubotas grand and M models. They arent as strong as some of the competition, but except for rare ocassions, they dont need much more.