Did a little hay last week ...

[foreman Etexas]

Nothing finer than good bermuda ... Johnson grass is hard to eradicate. I have a friend who swears by it.

I wonder why Johnson grass has folks that like it and alot that dont? Is it kinda like Bahia grass,cause most hate it but I dont mind it,doesnt yield much but im not going to spray it,its grass right now. I was just wondering what makes yall not like it?I heard somethings like the acid in it could kill cows,and could cut cows stomach cause the plant is sharp,just a few.

 

[blueriver]

I wonder why Johnson grass has folks that like it and alot that dont? Is it kinda like Bahia grass,cause most hate it but I dont mind it,doesnt yield much but im not going to spray it,its grass right now. I was just wondering what makes yall not like it?I heard somethings like the acid in it could kill cows,and could cut cows stomach cause the plant is sharp,just a few.

The only thing I've heard about is the acid ... my freend states that he knows how and when to ID that and cuts or grazes around that.

He plants 100's of acres for his cattle and simply claims he wouldn't consider anything else ... as for Bahia ... I personally like it.

 

[Learning to Farm]

Interesting thing that occurs with having members in so many locations. Johnson Grass is considered invasive in Maryland and the person that taught the Herbicide (pesticide) class said that if it is found the owner can be fined (if they do not remove it).

Are you guys baling it or just grazing it? It may have been said, but I am reading on my phone

 

[Western]

The only thing I've heard about is the acid ... my freend states that he knows how and when to ID that and cuts or grazes around that.

My Ag agent once told me that when the JG turns Orange or Reddish, ( usually in late hot summer) is when it is potentially dangerous to livestock. I think JG is listed as invasive almost anywhere, Bermuda can be "invasive" sometimes.Both are hard to totally eradicate it seems.

 

[foreman Etexas]

My Ag agent once told me that when the JG turns Orange or Reddish, ( usually in late hot summer) is when it is potentially dangerous to livestock. I think JG is listed as invasive almost anywhere, Bermuda can be "invasive" sometimes.Both are hard to totally eradicate it seems.

That was the thing about the Johnson grass it out growed his other grass in the spots that he had it,was turning a yellow color before he cut and baled but I have talked to the owner and he said he has never had any issues with feeding it to the cows. But I guess just what you was brought up having and knowing what to do with it..

 

[pacerron]

Interesting thing that occurs with having members in so many locations. Johnson Grass is considered invasive in Maryland and the person that taught the Herbicide (pesticide) class said that if it is found the owner can be fined (if they do not remove it).

Are you guys baling it or just grazing it? It may have been said, but I am reading on my phone

Not to be picking on M-7 for baling and feeding what he calls " Johnson Grass" to his horses and cows in Tennessee... but Johnson Grass is on the list of one of the world's 10 worst weeds. It is not hay.
Maybe what they call "Johnson Grass" down there looks similar but is really something else? One of the reasons we keep our pastures of mainly natural grasses mowed to 3.5 to 5 inches is to control weed growth. The weeds don't like to be cut short so they give up. or lay in waiting!
Even then the clover will sometimes give the horses the slobbers. I hate the slobbers.
I'd like to see pictures of M-7's Clydes.
Identifying Noxious Weeds of Ohio, Bulletin 866-98, Johnsongrass

Horse Nutrition, Bulletin 762-00, Poisonous Plants

Google Image Result for http://oklahomainvasivespecies.okstate.edu/species/johnsongrass/johnsongrass.gif

 

[foreman Etexas]

Not to be picking on M-7 for baling and feeding what he calls " Johnson Grass" to his horses and cows in Tennessee... but Johnson Grass is on the list of one of the world's 10 worst weeds. It is not hay.
Maybe what they call "Johnson Grass" down there looks similar but is really something else? One of the reasons we keep our pastures of mainly natural grasses mowed to 3.5 to 5 inches is to control weed growth. The weeds don't like to be cut short so they give up. or lay in waiting!
Even then the clover will sometimes give the horses the slobbers. I hate the slobbers.
I'd like to see pictures of M-7's Clydes.
Identifying Noxious Weeds of Ohio, Bulletin 866-98, Johnsongrass

Horse Nutrition, Bulletin 762-00, Poisonous Plants

Google Image Result for http://oklahomainvasivespecies.okstate.edu/species/johnsongrass/johnsongrass.gif

Its big around here,I always hear Johnson grass hay for sale. And over the years just hearing the folks that do feed it,believe in it.
While we are on hay grass,what about Dalis grass? Rumor has it guy down the road baled some and thats what killed some of his cows,any truth to this you think? I have a R.O.W that I could bale but I know there is some Dallis in it. Sounds like JG is like Bahia your either happy with it or do whatever you can to get rid of it. People sure spend the $$$ to control bahia and im spending the money to fertilize it,lol.

 

[Learning to Farm]

Not to be picking on M-7 for baling and feeding what he calls " Johnson Grass" to his horses and cows in Tennessee... but Johnson Grass is on the list of one of the world's 10 worst weeds. It is not hay.
Maybe what they call "Johnson Grass" down there looks similar but is really something else? One of the reasons we keep our pastures of mainly natural grasses mowed to 3.5 to 5 inches is to control weed growth. The weeds don't like to be cut short so they give up. or lay in waiting!

Ron,

A weed is just a plant growing where you don't want it. Also, any forage (grass or legume) can be made into hay.

I think that these guys are wanting something a little taller than 3.5 to 5 inches to bale. Haha =)


Foreman, I got this one! Knew that pasture class would come in useful

It is not the actual Dallisgrass that is the killer, it is a ergot fungus that can live on the grass. I couldn't remember the name so I had to look it up, Calviceps paspali. It is a similar problem to fescue, it is not the grass that is the problem with broodmares but the endophyte that grows on it.

Whew, finally I know something, this will go to the deficit to pay back all the knowledge I get from TBN ! At this rate I will be on here until I am 110...

 

[foreman Etexas]

Ron,

A weed is just a plant growing where you don't want it. Also, any forage (grass or legume) can be made into hay.

I think that these guys are wanting something a little taller than 3.5 to 5 inches to bale. Haha =)


Foreman, I got this one! Knew that pasture class would come in useful

It is not the actual Dallisgrass that is the killer, it is a ergot fungus that can live on the grass. I couldn't remember the name so I had to look it up, Calviceps paspali. It is a similar problem to fescue, it is not the grass that is the problem with broodmares but the endophyte that grows on it.

Whew, finally I know something, this will go to the deficit to pay back all the knowledge I get from TBN ! At this rate I will be on here until I am 110...

Thanks!! So its a gamble if you bale it basically?

 

[pacerron]

Ron,

Also, any forage (grass or legume) can be made into hay.

I think that these guys are wanting something a little taller than 3.5 to 5 inches to bale. Haha =)

LTL,
You need a bigger screen to read your mail on or stronger bi-focals
I never said I made hay from 3.5 to 5 inch grass. That wouldn't be worth the diesel fuel. I don't need to measure it; the wife says, " get down there and mow that pasture" I mow it with a finish mower set at 3.5" according to the bolt holes on the wheels.
But it is to keep the pastures in good shape and the horses nibbling all the time instead of gulping and getting a stomach ache in the spring especially. It keeps locust tree sprouts, wild roses, and other weeds from growing without using round-up. Spreads the horse apples too. ( A weed is a phalaenopsis orchid growing in the wrong place)
Not that we don't use lots of round-up to keep the grass and weeds under the fence clear, as well as lanes, around barns, behind the dam and many other places.
Round-up is great for killing vigorously growing bad guys, although the grain growers are beginning to have a problem with weeds that have adapted to it.
We are even beginning to see more old time plowing here in Ohio. Everything has it's cycle.