The gully to pond project

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Have you thought about using your water pump for pond aeration?

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Ron

Yes, but I have one of those small 1.5 hp/3.5 gal oil free air compressors. I just twist tied the spray nozzle open and pitched the hose into the deepest part of the pond. It really boils the water and the engine never works hard because the pressure doesn't get above about 15 psi with it running constantly. I was shocked at how it looked just like the photos of the high dollar aerators I see online. To keep the small pond aerated as the water gets less and less, this seems to be just the ticket.

My seine arrived right on time and it seems to be a quality product. I'll take pictures of the pond and post today, but it is rapidly becoming a mud-hole. I'm down to the last couple of feet now. On the other hand, my 2nd pond is looking really nice with all the added water. The pump is still working perfectly.
 
   / The gully to pond project #452  
Yes, but I have one of those small 1.5 hp/3.5 gal oil free air compressors. I just twist tied the spray nozzle open and pitched the hose into the deepest part of the pond. It really boils the water and the engine never works hard because the pressure doesn't get above about 15 psi with it running constantly. I was shocked at how it looked just like the photos of the high dollar aerators I see online. To keep the small pond aerated as the water gets less and less, this seems to be just the ticket.

My seine arrived right on time and it seems to be a quality product. I'll take pictures of the pond and post today, but it is rapidly becoming a mud-hole. I'm down to the last couple of feet now. On the other hand, my 2nd pond is looking really nice with all the added water. The pump is still working perfectly.


Wow, You must have electric power at the pond already for your beer cooler, or a really long fat extension cord:laughing:
Is this like a little portable compressor used for air nailers with low CFM throughput but high pressure capability for short intermittent bursts?
They usually have a small tank or two for portability and to keep enough volume at pressure to be able to fire the gun rapidly as well as not burn up the motor that is not designed for constant running.
That makes me think about going back to the barn looking for old stuff again.
When I was a teenager (16) I purchased a little red compressor from Sears and mounted an old washing machine motor on the plate, directly coupled to drive it. No gauges or controls, except for the little pressure relief valve that came with it at the hose outlet. No air filters, just a piece of black iron pipe with a little thing on the end with 1/4 holes. The pipe was more for lifting and carrying. No tank and no water filter on the outlet. Pure basic:)
In those days you could buy Lacquer or oil car paint. I had a 54 Chevy with a Del-Ray interior ( lots of chrome on the dash). It was only 4 years old but in those days rust began before the cars left the factory. Red paint that was starting to fade already. So I stripped chrome, sanded, bondo'd, sanded, primed and painted that thing white on the bottom where it had been red and black on the top where it had been white. Can you imagine how a two-tone paint job would stand out today among all the plain 1 color, plastic trim cars of today. I was lucky I used lacquer since it dried so quickly. In my Dad's hot steamy garage in the summer, with no ventilation it was a race between the paint drying and the sweat dripping off my head when doing the top and hood. After rubbing out it looked pretty good. I could have had it done at Earl Shibe's for $29.95 but I wanted to learn. I learned not to do it this way:D
The old compressor is not oiless but only has a few ounces in it, so it probably wouldn't add any more oil than mother nature. Might be a fun experiment. Hay cutting is done anyway. Plan to grease the equip today in the barn where it is cool so I may spot the old compressor.
Do you have a backflow control on your outlet hose so it wouldn't become a water siphon if you lose power?
Ron
 
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Speaking of siphons, I was wondering if you couldn't have drained pond 1 using a siphon hose/pipe. This could have run 24hrs a day and saved a lot of fuel.
Also, I seem to recall some folks using small windmills to power their aeration systems...of course, they wouldn't work too well when it's calm.

BOB
 
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Speaking of siphons, I was wondering if you couldn't have drained pond 1 using a siphon hose/pipe. This could have run 24hrs a day and saved a lot of fuel.
Also, I seem to recall some folks using small windmills to power their aeration systems...of course, they wouldn't work too well when it's calm.

BOB

Lots of ways to siphon, as you know, even up and over higher hills at large volumes. Jim may be wanting to put the fish in the pond he is draining into another pond rather than the pond he is transferring water into. He has other well established, balanced ponds further down the gully.
 
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Ron, a compressor motor running under nearly no load is not an overheating problem. It's not pulling much current either. I'm using about 200' of extension cord and have plenty of power. Now, if I was starting the compressor at 85 psi cut-in pressure, I'd have problems. As it is, the compressor seems to be working just fine. There's no problem with siphoning because the compressor is sitting on a hillside about 8' above the water line.

Bob, I'd use siphoning, but that requires a big hose if I don't want to be done sometime next month. This pump has drained that pond in about 16 hours of pumping over 4 days. The energy it has saved is mine and the pipe I'd have to buy to build the siphon. For me, the pump wins every time.
 
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The first picture was the pond this morning after yesterday's pumping. There's not much water left. It's all in the 2nd pond (2nd and 3rd photos). I love the fact that I'm not wasting hardly any water in this process.
 

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Jim - When you get the High Pond fixed, are you gonna just pump the water back up into it?? :thumbsup:

Or maybe Ma Nature will kindly wait until you're done with repairs, then provide sky water ... even better! (unless you feel your lower ponds are over-filled now)
 
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After pumping for about 1-1/2 hours, the pond was down to a couple of small mudholes. My wife and grandson came home from school at noon and wanted to do the seining of the pond.:cool2:

The first picture below is my new seine. I used PVC pipe for the end poles and attached the seine securely. The 1st photo below is the my new seine as delivered. It's 50' long, so it's way overkill for this job. Did I mention that my wife and grandson have never seined? What a hoot!:laughing: Trying to teach someone to seine needs hands-on instruction, but if they wanted to get wet/muddy, that was okay with me.:D

The second photo is them seining a small pool and also them covered in mud after they hauled minnows/fish down to the 2nd pond in plastic buckets. I'm not sure, but I'd bet they never make the mistake of volunteering for this type of work again.;)
 

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Jim - When you get the High Pond fixed, are you gonna just pump the water back up into it?? :thumbsup:

I'm going to fix it and let it sit dry until we get some rain. It could end up being dry all summer. I could pump water from my well, but I'm not that anxious. It will fill the next time we get a good rain.:)
 
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Ron, a compressor motor running under nearly no load is not an overheating problem. It's not pulling much current either. I'm using about 200' of extension cord and have plenty of power. Now, if I was starting the compressor at 85 psi cut-in pressure, I'd have problems. As it is, the compressor seems to be working just fine. There's no problem with siphoning because the compressor is sitting on a hillside about 8' above the water line.

I'm cool if you are:cool:
After you have run the compressor for a couple hours is the male prong plug on the extension cord hot where you have it plugged into the house receptacle?
 

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