What is an "upcharge" on an oil change?

[buickanddeere]

apparrently he can't read that i'm useing the dealer service schedule for severe usage due to the conditions the truck runs in.

that's half the problem. most post without reading ( or simply lack reading comprehension skills most peole pick up by 8th grade.. )

How old is the vehicle to have service intervals that short. There is no need for service that often. Do an oil analysis and you will discover the oil is good for 10,000 miles plus.

 

[LD1]

How old is the vehicle to have service intervals that short. There is no need for service that often. Do an oil analysis and you will discover the oil is good for 10,000 miles plus.

Give it up already:confused2: It isnt your vehichle, it isnt your money, and it isnt your warranty to throw out the window if he does as you suggest. If he follows your advise, and trashes his motor, are you going to foot the bill???

Hes a smart guy, and no doubt that if he was using full synthetic, traveled nothing but paved highway, and never city driving or offroad, he would probabally not be changing his oil that often.

TO the OP: If you are still around....did you ever get this figured out?? I didnt see you mention how much the oil change cost? I see you mentioned you were charged $21 for the upcharge, but what was the total bill? and what are the individual charges? itemize it for us:thumbsup:

 

[Soundguy]

Y'all missed the best part of Soundguy's post: "maganger de'jour". I plan to use that one, spelled correctly, of course.

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it you typed on the lil tablet like I make my posts from, you'd misspell too.

and editing is not fun. hittingthe arrow back does not move the visible cursor.. you have to GUESS where you are, and if in the wrong spot, your 'corrections' show up wrong.

glad there's nothing else to do other than post about my typo's seems there would be something else more important to constantly kick around?

i think i need to check the peanut gallery and see if there is room for an addition.... hmm....

 

[buickanddeere]

Give it up already:confused2: It isnt your vehichle, it isnt your money, and it isnt your warranty to throw out the window if he does as you suggest. If he follows your advise, and trashes his motor, are you going to foot the bill???

Hes a smart guy, and no doubt that if he was using full synthetic, traveled nothing but paved highway, and never city driving or offroad, he would probabally not be changing his oil that often.

TO the OP: If you are still around....did you ever get this figured out?? I didnt see you mention how much the oil change cost? I see you mentioned you were charged $21 for the upcharge, but what was the total bill? and what are the individual charges? itemize it for us:thumbsup:

It's all going to cost three times more when he is changing the oil when there is no need to change the oil. Which just makes the upcharge surcharge even worse. With today's engines and fuel. There is no need to pretend it's 1970 with carburators, manual chokes and leaded gasoline.

 

[Soundguy]

It's all going to cost three times more when he is changing the oil when there is no need to change the oil. Which just makes the upcharge surcharge even worse. With today's engines and fuel. There is no need to pretend it's 1970 with carburators, manual chokes and leaded gasoline.

again.. negative on the reading comprehension.

1 upcharge, 1 time, then I dropped them.. I do my own change on that vehicle now. and i letmyself off with a break and don't charge myself ANY labor or upcharges or service charges.

And yet again... it's not 'today's engine' as for 'today's oil'.. that's my aim... extended service drain interval. but then.. I've sead that about 5 times now... it just wasn't read or perhaps comprehended..

 

[LD1]

It's all going to cost three times more when he is changing the oil when there is no need to change the oil.

You have ZERO proof of that. And it is clear that you dont know squat about oil OR engines and how to properly maintain them. Unless you have anything more useful to contribute, why dont you......nevermind, it will get deleted if I continue

 

[buickanddeere]

You have ZERO proof of that. And it is clear that you dont know squat about oil OR engines and how to properly maintain them. Unless you have anything more useful to contribute, why dont you......nevermind, it will get deleted if I continue

Sorry that you are upset when I question your's, your Pappy's and Grand Pappy's habits on tradition oil changes from decades ago. As for your wild guess and attempt to discredit , you have not clue about my qualifications. If you don't like somebody because they have different opinions, I suggest you grow up. Oil that is not dirty and does not have the additiv package depleted. Does not need to be changed. All you are supporting is oil companies and the local oil change chains. Also you are contribution to the 100,000's of thousands of gallons of used oil being dumped on the ground or down drains.Ever been to Europe and inquired about oil changing philosophy there?Are you heard of unleaded and low sulphur fuels? Have you heard tell of fuel injection?

 

[LD1]

Sorry that you are upset when I question your's, your Pappy's and Grand Pappy's habits on tradition oil changes from decades ago.

I am NOT upset that you are questioning me. Because you are not. You are questioning Soundguy, Probabally one of the MOST respected members here. He does what he does, and someone like you certainly aint gonna change his mind, so LET IT GO. No need to bring my family into this either, thats insulting.

. As for your wild guess and attempt to discredit , you have not clue about my qualifications. If you don't like somebody because they have different opinions, I suggest you grow up.

It wasnt a WILD guess. It was a guess however based on the little you have participated in this thread. Based on your replies I made an EDUCATED guess. But since I dont have a clue about your qualifications....why dont you enlighten us?? And instead of suggesting that I grow up, take a long hard look in the mirror. And considering you are a newbie here, why are you trying to come on this great site and stir the pot for??

Oil that is not dirty and does not have the additiv package depleted. Does not need to be changed.

Agreed. I believe I have already said that. But he (Soundguy) has already said SEVERAL times that he uses his vehichle under "severe" conditions and is following the MFG's recommendations. And if you are one who wants to spend $100 to have an analysis done, to possibly prolong a ~$35 oil change just to prove a point and "stick it to the oil companies", then more power to ya.

All you are supporting is oil companies and the local oil change chains.

Dont forget...Supporting the vehicle warranty. Think what you want, but doing anything to void the warranty on a $40k-$50 vehicle to save a few bucks is stupid.

Also you are contribution to the 100,000's of thousands of gallons of used oil being dumped on the ground or down drains.

Are you implying that soundguy improperly disposes of his oil:laughing: Maybe your guilty of it??????????????

Are you heard of unleaded and low sulphur fuels? Have you heard tell of fuel injection?

No, I am a complete dumb@SS moron who was just born yesterday:confused2:

 

[Soundguy]

i take my oil to a collection center where it is picked up for recycling. anyone wishing to question that I can providde a pdf of the slip of the pickup ticket.

and yes.. I am changing based on mfg's severe use service schedule.

to clarify, I am however investigating a synthetic oil to exted service life / change interval, if it can be done safely and economically.

soundguy

 

[buickanddeere]

Worked in the lube oil analysis lab for Petro Canada on Southdown Rd in Mississauga. We run oil analysis in the Nuclear industry too.
Sorry that I doubted somebody being a "He Man" as anyone using their truck in rough tough conditions truely are "He Men".
Any chance he's using off road fuel in that truck and is worried about engine wear?
b.t.w rough tough conditions is when Aunt Mildred fires up her car and her driving consists of making the mile long trek to church, shopping, bingo or to the Dr at a scathing 25mph.
If an oil analysis costs you $100 then you are also daft enough to pay any price asked at Quicky Lube.
An oil analysis will also find and alert of damage from leaking coolant or a failed air intake filtration system that oil changed every 1000miles won't cope with.
Again sorry that feel so easily threatened and insulted with well known and proven facts on lube oil. Some people just can't move past with 3000 miles oil changes that went by the wayside in the late 1980's for gasoline engines. Nor have they noticed 2006 has come and gone with ULSD and the departure of aggressive sulphur content.
How about changing the oil every 1000 miles, sooner is better you know? Should make the engine last two or three times longer over the 3000 mile interval?
Grow up or take your bully tactics elsewhere.