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[Hammy]

I have a Woods BH-90X with manual thumb and have been thinking about get the hydraulic option kit. Nice unit. I got mine with the tractor so it came installed and everything.
What hoses are you talking about needing?
Your pictures show that you have hoses on the BH-90X.
Are you only talking about the ones that go from the tractor PB to the BH-90X or do you have other hoses that were not supplied as well?

I'm just talking about the hoses that go from the tractor's PB and the return line. The ones on the hoe are just capped off so I need to get the hoses made for the hoe side too (the IN and OUT). My issue is since the there is a hydraulic thumb it has an additional valve added onto it, which is already installed. I'm pretty sure I know where the OUT on this valve is located but the instructions aren't 100% clear. I only want to make the hoses once and not damage anything. I want the hoses long enough but not too long as well so if I could install the hoe then trailer the tractor and hoe to the hydraulic shop, I could have them all made up without any issues at all. We will see...

 

[Hammy]

Did you get it Rosseels?

Wedge

I did, and dealt with Dan.

 

[JoeBuyer]

I would think the backhoe is expecting to get hydraulics from the FEL's PB port and that it is discharging to Tank (two hoses). I would consider coming into the thumb's spool and going out of it's PB port to the In of your Hoe spools. Then you would need to connect the Tank port of your thumb spool to the discharge of the hoe (Tank). You could also feed the hoe spools first but you would need to locate a PB port, not Tank. I think, but hopefully JJ will pipe in here. He is the guru on this. Did they not send you a piping diagram on how to add the thumb spool? If not maybe you could ask. On my Kubota either the backhoe or the 3pt is the last in line before the tank. Some spools need a special sleeve to convert to having a PB.

 

[Hammy]

Okay, I got the backhoe installed today and everything is working great. The install was actually very simple. My question is, do they all sit low in the rear/not level. I know the hoe is heavy but I would still think it should sit level. Would increasing my rear tire pressure help this out? If so, what pressure is recommended with loaded tires and a 2,000# hoe on the back?

Thanks

 

[Hammy]

Okay, I got the backhoe installed today and everything is working great. The install was actually very simple. My question is, do they all sit low in the rear/not level. I know the hoe is heavy but I would still think it should sit level. Would increasing my rear tire pressure help this out? If so, what pressure is recommended with loaded tires and a 2,000# hoe on the back?

Thanks

 

[rswyan]

NICE!

Make sure there are no utilities before you dig!

Water, Sewer, Tanks, Gas, Elec, Tele, Phone etc et al.

The above is very good advice and well worth repeating - we have multiple 5" or 6" natural gas lines that cross our property, including one which goes to the storage well on our property. They are very high pressure - something on the order of 1500 psi - and they are not buried all that deep.

Hit one of them and you - and possibly your neighbors - are toast.

I don't know whether Dad called when he had the shop put up (40+ years ago), but the building is nearly over top of one of them. When I had the gas company out initially a few years ago to mark the lines the guy couldn't believe it.

 

[rswyan]

My question is, do they all sit low in the rear/not level. I know the hoe is heavy but I would still think it should sit level.

FWIW, the Kubota hoe (BH4690B) on my B2910 sits at a slight angle downward off the back of the tractor.

 

[sixdogs]

Okay, I got the backhoe installed today and everything is working great. The install was actually very simple. My question is, do they all sit low in the rear/not level. I know the hoe is heavy but I would still think it should sit level. Would increasing my rear tire pressure help this out? If so, what pressure is recommended with loaded tires and a 2,000# hoe on the back?

Thanks

Can you take a picture?

 

[nickel plate]

I don't think anyone can beat Rosseel's Woods backhoe pricing, bought a (blue) BH90-X w/ hydraulic thumb from Dan three years ago. Have your connecting hoses built long enough so that when you attach/detach there's enough length when seperated to run the stabilizers and boom/dipper stick for final adjustments. Great tool!

 

[Agent Blue]

For todays dollar that is quite the machine for 6200. I assume it is three point attach and it did not come with hoses to the power unit ? My Bradco 611 came with hoses and an attachment plate for a skid steer. I built both mounting brackets and the sub frame which was simple enough. It bolts on and takes a little longer to attach / unattach than the quick mounts but for three grand plus shipping and no sub frame available it was an easy decision. I am not sure what the purpose of the arched boom is........ looks or stronger main section. Maybe they can get by with thinner metal and achieve the same stress load. At any rate Woods builds quality..... good choice.

I just noticed the next size 1050 Woods does not utilize the arched main structure. Also I could not find the weight of the different series machines for comparisons.

 

[Hammy]

Can you take a picture?

For sure, I'll post one up but it wont be till this next weekend before I can get to it.

 

[Hammy]

For todays dollar that is quite the machine for 6200. I assume it is three point attach and it did not come with hoses to the power unit ? My Bradco 611 came with hoses and an attachment plate for a skid steer. I built both mounting brackets and the sub frame which was simple enough. It bolts on and takes a little longer to attach / unattach than the quick mounts but for three grand plus shipping and no sub frame available it was an easy decision. I am not sure what the purpose of the arched boom is........ looks or stronger main section. Maybe they can get by with thinner metal and achieve the same stress load. At any rate Woods builds quality..... good choice.

I just noticed the next size 1050 Woods does not utilize the arched main structure. Also I could not find the weight of the different series machines for comparisons.

$6,200 for the hoe itself. It's not 3pt, I also bought a sub-frame specific for my MX5000. I have to take the 3ph arms off to mount it.

I got the hoses made and thankfully they were a little long because they fit perfect! I wouldn't want them any shorter. So far it awesome! I just can't figure out why it would slant to the rear a bit but there is no adjustment so it is what it is. I was just curious if others do this?

Here is a picture of it on my machine but not at the proper angle to show the slight sag. I'll post a better one this weekend.

 

[Ductape]

Perhaps its just the curve of the boom that makes it look thay way ? The platform looks pretty level compared with the tractor platform to me.

 

[ericher69]

For todays dollar that is quite the machine for 6200.

$9345 taxes in still a good deal and looks like a solid unit!

What is the digging depth?

 

[JoeBuyer]

This is how my Bradco 611 sits, but it might be a little tighter towards the tractor. You might have said whether you have fill in the rear tires, but backhoe on or off my tires don't flex much since they are 75% fluid.

 

[sixdogs]

Maybe level with ag tires but looks fine to me.
I'll take it off your hands if you don't want it.
That thing is so powerful you could tear a small house down with it.

 

[Hammy]

Here are a couple better pictures of the slight rearward slope. Really I'm just wondering if most sub-frame hoes do this a little? The sub-frame says MX5000 on it and it fits fine. I also noticed when I put the stabilizers down and it pushes the hoe and sub-frame up a little it levels out.

One other thing, I read that the rear tire pressure calls for 20 psi, which I'm at and my tires are loaded. What pressure are most running in the rear tires? I'm wondering if reducing the squat a little will help?

 

[Qapla]

I have used several tractors with sub-frame BH on them. hey all have a little squat since they are a bit butt-heavy.

... I also noticed when I put the stabilizers down and it pushes the hoe and sub-frame up a little it levels out.

Now, if you mean that it is lifting the tractor and leveling it out, no problem. However, if you are saying that it "moves" the hoe and sub-frame level without lifting the tractor, it sounds like you have some lose bolts. I would have that checked if that is the case.

One other thing, I read that the rear tire pressure calls for 20 psi, which I'm at and my tires are loaded. What pressure are most running in the rear tires?

We run 20 psi in our rears and it has never been a problem, we have the Woods 70X. It does ride a bit low beneath the hoe, but the tractor has never gotten "stuck" on anything.

 

[sixdogs]

Maybe compare the height of the R4's with the R1 ag tires and I'll bet that is the differnece to level. I wouldn't give it the slightest concern, however.