2005 ford 6.0 diesal problems

[Hay Dude]

How about deleting the vehicle instead of the egr valve!:thumbsup:
Unbelievable JUNK!:thumbdown:
Why you guys bother screwing with this junk is beyond me. Manufacturers warranty or extended your paying for it again and again and again.....:confused3:
And then there's NO RESALE value.:shocked:
Sounds like YOU"RE doing FORD's BAILOUT all by yourselves

You have to write down all the scenarios and pick your poison with Ford diesels:
1. Keep it and let warranty expire, then live with a good chance engine will grenade prematurely.
2. Keep it and extend warranty for $3,000-$4,000 and be covered for a few extra years when the engine does grenade prematurely.
3. Trade it, be insulted with trade-in value, and go back into debt for the 6th version of the Ford diesel and take a chance with urea and who knows what problems.

Problem is, Dodge & GM took bailout money, which goes against my fundamental beliefs.
So I'm left with Ford, who is "clean" because they took no bailout money, but can't build a reliable diesel to save its' life, like GM & Dodge.

So I'm stuck with an unreliable Ford (again). First the 6L, now the 6.4L, and it looks like I'm a 6.7L victim waiting to happen.
Sheesh.....

 

[Hay Dude]

Well mines an 07 and it has all the problems, LOL.
And for Coyote Machine......why some of us screw with this junk.....because after what we paid to buy it in the first place it is hard to give it away for nothing. And after replacing half the engine I keep thinking someday it will be done. But now when my Ford dealer tells me it will never end......maybe time to cut the losses.I love the truck and if I knew what I was going to end up spending on it to keep it running, I could have paid for the Cummins swap by now. Then I'd just have crappy fuel mileage, but at least it would run daily.

Ain't it amazing after you pay $55,000 for a new truck and after just a few years you're at the point where the Ford service writer is on your "favorites" on the cell phone, you're bringing him donuts, coffee, you know his wife & kid's names and you sometimes feel obligated to slip him $20 to push through some warranty stuff?
Then the diesel mechanic in the back tells you "dump this thing as soon as you can", "make sure you extend the warranty", etc.???
It almost seems like some kind of crazy, sad nightmare. lol

 

[DT86]

And all this is why my truck is 15 years old.

If some one were to spend half the monthly payments of a new truck working on and fixing their old one just imagine what they'd have! You could pull the gates of h*ll clean from their hinges and get better mpg doing so.

 

[Coyote machine]

You have to write down all the scenarios and pick your poison with Ford diesels:
1. Keep it and let warranty expire, then live with a good chance engine will grenade prematurely.
2. Keep it and extend warranty for $3,000-$4,000 and be covered for a few extra years when the engine does grenade prematurely.
3. Trade it, be insulted with trade-in value, and go back into debt for the 6th version of the Ford diesel and take a chance with urea and who knows what problems.

Problem is, Dodge & GM took bailout money, which goes against my fundamental beliefs.
So I'm left with Ford, who is "clean" because they took no bailout money, but can't build a reliable diesel to save its' life, like GM & Dodge.

So I'm stuck with an unreliable Ford (again). First the 6L, now the 6.4L, and it looks like I'm a 6.7L victim waiting to happen.
Sheesh.....

Where did the bailout money come from in the end? You and me and everyone else who pays taxes etc. in this country! Wow, I hate it too that this was the 'solution' to the auto industry woes. But I wouldn't want to add salt to my wounds just because Ford didn't take $. Sounds like they'll never have to since their taking all of yours and our government is taking the rest, eh?
In the meantime any of you Ford guys deserve a break. (I have a close friend who has one of the diesels and I lent him $1000 to help him get it back on the road so he could keep his farm going, etc.)
I seriously cannot believe so much stuff can go bad on ANY vehicle no matter who makes it! Its just CRAZY and I agree FORD ought to FIX all the broken down expensive as heck diesels they foisted off on you folks.
It would be one thing if one could fix it and done, but you have to fix it 'till either you or it bites the bullet!?

INSANE! There should be a law against such BS! In fact there are 5/50 federal admissions laws that pertain to all emissions components; but I forgot you guys try to drive off into the sunset by putting a billion miles on these things...what's the actual cost per mile when you add up $4000+ repairs and down time, etc. ? I'm guessing like $25/mile when you're all done! YIKES!!!

Good luck- next time buy the Cummins diesel- even with poor fuel mileage you probably save a million or so in the long haul...

 

[94BULLITT]

Don't forget that GM got money from Canada too. What is really disgusting is what they did with their bailout money, and they are headed for bankruptcy again.

 

[Fordman1981]

I don't understand why everyone is saying the Cummings has such poor fuel mileage. I had a 2010 that got 15/17 around town and 19/21 highway and I did hand calculate those mileages. I now have a 2012 ram 2500 with the 6 speed manual. It has 6,000 miles on it and is getting 14.5/15.5 around town and 17/19 highway. The 08 f350 I had with the 6.4 got 14 mpg highway on it's best day. So I guess I just don't see the "poor fuel mileage" out of the Cummings. Oh and by the way I pulled 10,000 lbs with the 2012 ram and got 13.5/14.5 on a 1,000 mile trip.

 

[Coyote machine]

Don't forget that GM got money from Canada too. What is really disgusting is what they did with their bailout money, and they are headed for bankruptcy again.

What did they do with their bailout $?

 

[94BULLITT]

What did they do with their bailout $?

The main thing that made me mad was they built factory's in china with the money.

Obama's (Un)American Auto Bailout - Michelle Malkin - [page]

 

[94BULLITT]

The main thing that made me mad was they built factory's in china with the money.

Obama's (Un)American Auto Bailout - Michelle Malkin - [page]

I also forgot they did not have to pay any income taxes for 2 or 3 years and very little for the next 20 years and they are boasting record profits.

 

[DT86]

I don't understand why everyone is saying the Cummings has such poor fuel mileage. I had a 2010 that got 15/17 around town and 19/21 highway and I did hand calculate those mileages. I now have a 2012 ram 2500 with the 6 speed manual. It has 6,000 miles on it and is getting 14.5/15.5 around town and 17/19 highway. The 08 f350 I had with the 6.4 got 14 mpg highway on it's best day. So I guess I just don't see the "poor fuel mileage" out of the Cummings. Oh and by the way I pulled 10,000 lbs with the 2012 ram and got 13.5/14.5 on a 1,000 mile trip.

That CUMMINGS should have got 0 mpg. That's all I've ever seen one get.

 

[Paystar]

I don't understand why everyone is saying the Cummings has such poor fuel mileage. I had a 2010 that got 15/17 around town and 19/21 highway and I did hand calculate those mileages. I now have a 2012 ram 2500 with the 6 speed manual. It has 6,000 miles on it and is getting 14.5/15.5 around town and 17/19 highway. The 08 f350 I had with the 6.4 got 14 mpg highway on it's best day. So I guess I just don't see the "poor fuel mileage" out of the Cummings. Oh and by the way I pulled 10,000 lbs with the 2012 ram and got 13.5/14.5 on a 1,000 mile trip.

You are right, the 08 to 10 Ford's are horrible on fuel until you delete the EGR and DPF and program. But personally me, I was comparing 07 Dodge Cummins to my 07 Powerstroke. I was hauling travel trailers commercially at the time and the Ford was way better on fuel. But now looking back on it, the fuel and rebuilding the Dodges front end every 50,000 miles is cheap compared to keeping this Powerstroke running.

I'd like to try a new Duramax, but GM's interiors just don't appeal to me. They need to take a lesson from Ford and Dodge and make more storage and useful features on the truck itself. As a commercial user, you need the room to carry lots of gear.

The sad reality is they all have issues, so you have to figure out who is the lesser evil. No wonder so many commercial users are going back to gas. Thanks EPA.

 

[Paystar]

Ain't it amazing after you pay $55,000 for a new truck and after just a few years you're at the point where the Ford service writer is on your "favorites" on the cell phone, you're bringing him donuts, coffee, you know his wife & kid's names and you sometimes feel obligated to slip him $20 to push through some warranty stuff?
Then the diesel mechanic in the back tells you "dump this thing as soon as you can", "make sure you extend the warranty", etc.???
It almost seems like some kind of crazy, sad nightmare. lol

Hahahahaha!! I know the feeling.
My service manager laughs every time he sees me too, because he can't believe my 1995 Ford Explorer is still going with no failures and with a half million kilometres on it, yet the diesel couldn't make it out of warranty, lol.

 

[Hay Dude]

What did they do with their bailout $?

They gave it to the unions.

 

[Fordman1981]

That CUMMINGS should have got 0 mpg. That's all I've ever seen one get.

What does this even mean?

 

[deerefan]

They gave it to the unions.

Someone please tell me how rehashing the bailout for the millionth time is helping fix the op's diesel problem? I had 2 6.0 engines, both were trouble free. However, I did not hit the 100k mile mark in either one. I live in a heavy ag area. Most guys left ford for either the dmax or cummins. The local diesel shop sees mainly 6.0 and 6.4 fords, they account for about 65% of business. It is a shame because the ford sd trucks are sweet machines.

 

[Soundguy]

Yep, but we can read it!!!

I test drove an F350 with the 6.0L diesel a few years back. Nice truck, but the horror stories just scared me too much. It was more truck then I needed, but it was nice!
As someone wrote earlier, most of the problems were squared away by the 2005 models, but the bad reputation was hard to live down.

when I bought my f350, I specifically looked for a 2003.5 or older one, just to not get the 6.0. and I drive a 6.0 ..but doubt I would own another, .. just because.. etc.

 

[Soundguy]

How about deleting the vehicle instead of the egr valve!:thumbsup:
Unbelievable JUNK!:thumbdown:
Why you guys bother screwing with this junk is beyond me. Manufacturers warranty or extended your paying for it again and again and again.....:confused3:
And then there's NO RESALE value.:shocked:
Sounds like YOU"RE doing FORD's BAILOUT all by yourselves

not my truck to make decisions about. it was my jobs truck. they decided instead of letting a multi thousand dolar truck go that needed a few hundred dolalr repair kit.. that it was better to spend a lil repair money than dump a truck that, at the time needed the kit to run as it was dumping water. can't imagine what kind of sales hit you'd take selling a NON RUNNING truck. vs paying to fix it ? that seems stupid to me to even suggest?

 

[Soundguy]

Funny that you still keep such a cursed vehicle. I had a cursed Ford minivan that lifted it's heads at 63,000. Fixed it and sold it because I found out later that particular Ford V-6 douled as a boat anchor. Fast forward 8 years and a guy comes down to my farm in one. It was making a lot of tapping noise. I asked him "did the heads lift"? He said, yeah, only 3 times. lol

Speaking of boat anchors, I think I'm gonna try to push to to get my Superduty done and try to get a '12 leftover 6.7. Who knows what problems they have. Haven't had time to read up on them because I'm always on truck forums reading up on the 6.4L problems LOL

funny. i owned a 6 cyl ford minivan .. was a 90 model. traded it in, running FINE in 2009 on a kia car for the wife. engine never had a days work on it. over the years it had 1 ecu, a igniton switch and an ac repair.. other than that.. just oil changes, tune up items and tires. was the best truck on gas I have ever driven.

as for keeping hte gm? I'll send you my mailing address so you can send me a certified check so i can get rid of that cursed yukon and replace it with something else. I'm looking forward to getting that check.

you act like it's free to dump a junk vehicle and repalce with another one that runs better? Well.. it isn't last I checked. Dealers actually make you PAY for something when they let you drive it off. Now.. if a dealer wants to trade me straight up on that 99 yukon with something similar but with less gm induced issues.. I'd sure have to look that deal over

 

[Soundguy]

1, you are painting a broad stroke. not all the engines in ford diesel trucks had scary issues. the 7.3, idi, 7.3 with ats turbo, and 7.3 psd were pretty bulletproof. I thinkthe late 80's ? 6.8/9? was fine too. ( non turbo units may have been a lil sluggish ..e tc.. )

2, ford diesels? navistar maybee?

You have to write down all the scenarios and pick your poison with Ford diesels:
1. Keep it and let warranty expire, then live with a good chance engine will grenade prematurely.
2. Keep it and extend warranty for $3,000-$4,000 and be covered for a few extra years when the engine does grenade prematurely.
3. Trade it, be insulted with trade-in value, and go back into debt for the 6th version of the Ford diesel and take a chance with urea and who knows what problems.

Problem is, Dodge & GM took bailout money, which goes against my fundamental beliefs.
So I'm left with Ford, who is "clean" because they took no bailout money, but can't build a reliable diesel to save its' life, like GM & Dodge.

So I'm stuck with an unreliable Ford (again). First the 6L, now the 6.4L, and it looks like I'm a 6.7L victim waiting to happen.
Sheesh.....

 

[Soundguy]

Ain't it amazing after you pay $55,000 for a new truck and after just a few years you're at the point where the Ford service writer is on your "favorites" on the cell phone, you're bringing him donuts, coffee, you know his wife & kid's names and you sometimes feel obligated to slip him $20 to push through some warranty stuff?
Then the diesel mechanic in the back tells you "dump this thing as soon as you can", "make sure you extend the warranty", etc.???
It almost seems like some kind of crazy, sad nightmare. lol

that's why i don't run out and buy something as soon as it hits the market.

wait and see what the issues are before buying. There's always a selection of used vehicles to buy as someone is always there to buy the first one on the lot, and then sell a year later when something else new hits.

let them eat the big depreciation hit.