Picking a trailer for new JD 5083E

[deere5105]

Looks like some pretty heavy loads on tandem single axles. This may or may not be the place to ask this question, but when evaluating load capacity of a trailer is it safe to take the total axle capacity and subtract the trailer weight to determine how much weight can be put on the trailer? For example, I have a 22' 12K bumper pull trailer that is 82" wide. I estimate the trailer to weigh 2000 lbs. So the max weight the trailer can carry would be 12,000 lbs axle rating(2 @ 6,000 lbs each) less the 2,000 lbs trailer equal 10, 000 lbs possible pay load. I realize tongue weight factors in, but it is difficult to calculate. Seem about right?

 

[Diamondpilot]

Looks like some pretty heavy loads on tandem single axles. This may or may not be the place to ask this question, but when evaluating load capacity of a trailer is it safe to take the total axle capacity and subtract the trailer weight to determine how much weight can be put on the trailer? For example, I have a 22' 12K bumper pull trailer that is 82" wide. I estimate the trailer to weigh 2000 lbs. So the max weight the trailer can carry would be 12,000 lbs axle rating(2 @ 6,000 lbs each) less the 2,000 lbs trailer equal 10, 000 lbs possible pay load. I realize tongue weight factors in, but it is difficult to calculate. Seem about right?

Yes, kind of. You really need to weigh it. Most 12k ttrailers are closer to 3k empty.

Chris

 

[deere5105]

Yes, kind of. You really need to weigh it. Most 12k ttrailers are closer to 3k empty.

Chris

So if the trailer weighed 3k, the net capacity would be 9k? And the capacity could technically be increased by the amount of tongue weight too?

 

[pclausen]

That is my understanding. My trailer weigh 4800 lbs empty and has a 7ton or 14k capacity. I figured 25% can be tongue weight, so 14k + 25% = 17.5k. If I then subtract the trailer weight of 4.8k, it means I can haul 12.7k on it.

I'm currently hauling lumber to the mill with it, and have had loads over 14k. Here's a 14.6k load:

So my gross weight going down the road was 27.6k, which is probably borderline for my truck. Fortunately, the mill is only 10 miles away.

I have also hauled a 6405 with this trailer.

And a boom lift:

Of all those loads, I would say the boom lift was probably the heaviest, and I hauled it about 50 miles on the interstate, crossing the Blue Ridge Mountains. Neither truck nor trailer every felt unstable or unsafe at any point.

 

[wmonroe]

That is my understanding. My trailer weigh 4800 lbs empty and has a 7ton or 14k capacity. I figured 25% can be tongue weight, so 14k + 25% = 17.5k. If I then subtract the trailer weight of 4.8k, it means I can haul 12.7k on it.

I'm currently hauling lumber to the mill with it, and have had loads over 14k. Here's a 14.6k load:

So my gross weight going down the road was 27.6k, which is probably borderline for my truck. Fortunately, the mill is only 10 miles away.

I have also hauled a 6405 with this trailer.

And a boom lift:

Of all those loads, I would say the boom lift was probably the heaviest, and I hauled it about 50 miles on the interstate, crossing the Blue Ridge Mountains. Neither truck nor trailer every felt unstable or unsafe at any point.

Great pictures! I have a very similiar gooseneck just a different brand, mine scales out about 5100 lbs with chains, binders, and a couple 6x6 blocks. I dont think i could go back to a bumper pull trailer now. Here are a few pictures of some various loads.

Picking up my Ford 961

The Jeep loaded to go to camp

Delivering a buddies truck that he just bought

Twenty foot sea van, at this point it was almost unloaded, probably only 2-3,000 lbs left in it.

 

[mikehaugen]

Yes, kind of. You really need to weigh it. Most 12k ttrailers are closer to 3k empty.

Chris

I have a 20' 7k trailer that scaled 2600 just on the axles, not sure what the tongue weight was, so yeah I would hope a 12k trailer would be more than 2,000 empty.

 

[davel8257]

26,000 lbs and over should imply a CDL driver's license...

 

[Sterff]

26,000 lbs and over should imply a CDL driver's license...

In PA, over a 10K GVW trailer is CDL

 

[Duffster]

In PA, over a 10K GVWR trailer is CDL

Not unless the CGVWR is over 26 it's not.

 

[case245]

i haul my 7040sud fel loaded rear tires cast centers on my 10k 20 fot bumper pull trailer ii figure its 8-8.5k my trailers bout 1000ibs over