Are my parents to strict?

   / Are my parents to strict? #131  
Thanks. I was thinking about joining the Air Force, but my parents would pretty much disown me if I did. That was going to be my "out" when I turned 18

I served 22years in the AF...there are plenty of conservative folks in the AF...there are also plenty of non-combat jobs, both of which may somewhat mollify your parents view of the AF...my time there truly was a great way of life and I miss it from time to time...lot of memories, experiences, and friends that I'll never forget...guess what I'm getting at is your getting to the point in life where you're going to have to forge your own life's path...you're probably gonna make your parents unhappy at some point no matter what you do...remember their lessons but learn your own as well...I'm sure they want what's best for you, but sometimes what others think is best may not mesh with the direction you want to take...keep ya chin up, remember your roots, and go live your life...

BTW, I've got a 17 yro that is considering the AF and who also thought we were a bit too strict...I traveled a path similar to yours in that I was raised in a non-traditional religion, I chose my path but remembered my roots and parental teachings/advice...when I was 15-20 (or so) I thought my parents were dumb and out of touch, the older I got the smarter my Dad got, when I hit about 30 (or so) my Dad appeared to me to be one of the smartest men I knew...things have a way of working out...good luck kid...

Rich
 
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   / Are my parents to strict? #132  
when I was 15-20 (or so) I thought my parents were dumb and out of touch, the older I got the smarter my Dad got, when I hit about 30 (or so) my Dad appeared to me to be one of the smartest men I knew.

So true! Though I still thought my parents were great even when I was in my teens. Just a little out of touch. Mom was saying, "keep all the girls friends", etc. She was right, though. :)
 
   / Are my parents to strict? #133  
Excellent! Excellent! Excellent! One step at a time, building a history of responsible participation in significant endeavors. I always gave a lot of weight to these kinds of volunteer activities when I looked at a job resume. Given success in some of these things, they build on each other...and your mom is supportive and your dad is participating...all good.

I think I'm going to wait until I graduate and talk to them, so they can't use that against me. Also, someone asked if I've looked into an explorer program. I was apart of one for 2 years and as of last Friday I am now a full volunteer firefighter.
 
   / Are my parents to strict? #134  
Thank everyone for their kind words and words of encouragement it truly means a lot. I would really like to reply to each of you individually but that would take forever. It's given me a lot to think about. I think I'm going to wait until I graduate and talk to them, so they can't use that against me. Also, someone asked if I've looked into an explorer program. I was apart of one for 2 years and as of last Friday I am now a full volunteer firefighter. The only reason my parents let me join was because my mom thought it would help me towards my career choice. They don't really let me do anything down there besides go to training nights, and then my dad goes with me. Thanks again everyone for your encouragement.

Waiting until graduation is a good idea. You MUST have the diploma. Without that piece of paper your life is harder, much harder. Get the diploma then act.

18 is a tough time because a person really has not had time to build up any adult experiences. A problem at 18 can look like an insurmountable mountain, but looking back at that same problem at age 30, that problem was just a bump in the road. The difference in ages is just living and learning, which hopefully, allows one to put things in perspective.

You seem to have a very good head on your shoulders. Your parents certainly have given you the chance to get a decent education and you have taken advantage of that opportunity. That says something positive about them.

My kids have Facebook accounts but we thought long and hard about them having access. Frankly, I am not that happy with the access, not because I do not trust my kids, but because I do not trust others. Kids CAN and DO make mistakes and a problem with Facebook is that it can be used as a conduit to bad behavior. A big difference today compared to when I was 18 IS Facebook and today's technology. You mess up today and that mistake DOES NOT go away, it stays on the Internet. I just saw a story where a girl showed a photo of herself to a friend and now both appear to be facing criminal charges. That did NOT happen when I as that age. Kids certainly, shall we say, flashed themselves, but they did not face criminal charges FOR showing. We sure as heck did not have cameras that could send an image around the world in seconds.

My wife and I are more restrictive on our kids than our parents were with us. Coworkers with kids are the same way. We have discussed this frequently with OUR parents, coworkers, and friends. Its not really rational to be honest but it is what it is. I know younger people who distrust Facebook and refuse to use it because of privacy concerns. I personally do not use Facebook for the same reasons. One of our kids wants to be able to ride around our town on a bike after school. This ain't gonna happen because of traffic, certain issues going on in town as well as concerns over certain areas she would have to ride through. A kid our child goes to school with is in 11th/12th grade so he has to be about your age. His mother will not let him go hang around in town for the same reasons. Are the 11th/12th graders parents being too restrictive or are they watching out for their kid? Parents HOPEFULLY see things that kids do not. I am sure the 11th/12th grader knows why he is not allowed in town after school but I bet he does not like it one bit.

I think parents today are more strict than in the past. Go watch Leave it to Beaver as an example. The Beaver was walking into town to get a haircut, running around playing with his friends for hours, and visiting Gus at the fire station. Most parents today would not let their grade school age child do what The Beaver did. I did similar things as a kid but parents are more restrictive today.

Part of being a parent is knowing when to loosen the restriction and let the kid take on responsibility. We let our oldest have a bit of freedom last summer, aka a have a bit of responsibility and the kid blew it big time by doing something that was expressly forbidden. Why did this happen? Peer pressure, pure and simple. Our oldest is a good kid but the temptation to follow the crowd was too much. What happened would have been a good episode on Leave it to Beaver since it was the group getting the individuals in trouble. There was a similar story in Leave it to Beaver when Eddie talked Wally and Beaver into seeing a movie that their mother forbid them from seeing. :laughing::laughing::laughing: We even talked to the other parents to make sure they knew what happened so they could act as they saw fit. :D

You are now of age where you can mess up big time and there is no gong back. You cannot restart the game and play it again. This was really true when you were a younger teenager but now that you are 18, you ARE a legal adult. Recent research shows that a man's brain is not fully developed until around 25. Car insurance rates have been telling us that for years. :eek::D When I was a freshman in HS, a neighborhood girl, I think she was 13/14 got pregnant. She was still in middle school. While we all hung around in a group I never got the whole story but then I am sure nobody did either. The school system was busing kids around for desegregation. She was attending a middle school downtown and I, a few other kids, were going to a HS in the city as well. She somehow visited her boyfriend and got pregnant. She was Catholic. The story I heard was that she ran away from home when she found out she was pregnant but I don't know if that is the truth. She might have run away, her parents could have sent her to a church facility to have the child, or sent her to a family member out of state. I just don't know and likely never will. I never saw her or heard from her again. The point of that little story is that you are now an adult and you are going to be making decisions that stick with you for better or worse.

Your parents very likely understand this as well.

Shortly, you will be on your own like it or not. Once you get your diploma you can go to the recruiter and join up assuming you meet their qualifications which I think you will. :) Or you can put up with your parents rules, get your education and certification, and be on you own even though it might take a couple of years. Years at your age take forever to pass, but soon, years will be flying by and you will be wonder where the time went. One thing I have learned, is to make time your friend, not your enemy. Take your time making decisions if you can.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Are my parents to strict? #135  
It's good to keep some perspective.

Kids fail or succeed both because of, and in spite of, their parents. There are no parenting ability qualifications to become a parent. Parents learn as they go. :) Anyone who is a parent of grown children can look back and wish for a do-over on some things.

We all would probably like a do-over on some things. So, just keep in mind that no one makes perfect choices all the time, you will make some less than optimal decisions, just as your parents have.

I am sure your parents care for you a great deal, and are doing what they consider to be the best they know to raise you into a young man. If they have equipped you with a sense of right and wrong, the ability to have empathy for others, to recognize cruelty when you see it, to put honesty first, to know how to give and receive love; then you have the basic toolkit for success. The rest is up to you.

Go and live your life, but don't leave burning bridges behind you. At 17, is is not easy to see that the reasons you value family as an adult are not the same reasons you rely on family as a youngster.
 
   / Are my parents to strict? #136  
IMHO, many people seem to be missing or dismissing the main issue in this case. I don't pass judgement on anybodies views, but as I said earlier, I have second hand experience with JW and how incredibly restrictive this life is. There really only seems to be two options for a JW, you're either in, or you're out and if you're out, that includes more than just the faith, it includes your family, friends and community. This is why this is such an incredibly hard situation.

There have been a lot of good perspectives from people here about parenting and I agree with most of it. I'm not sure most of it is applicable to Cub given the JW connection.
 
   / Are my parents to strict?
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#137  
IMHO, many people seem to be missing or dismissing the main issue in this case. I don't pass judgement on anybodies views, but as I said earlier, I have second hand experience with JW and how incredibly restrictive this life is. There really only seems to be two options for a JW, you're either in, or you're out and if you're out, that includes more than just the faith, it includes your family, friends and community. This is why this is such an incredibly hard situation.

There have been a lot of good perspectives from people here about parenting and I agree with most of it. I'm not sure most of it is applicable to Cub given the JW connection.

You are exactly right. That's why I'm scared about talking to my parents. It's either their religion or no family and support at all. My parents are so into the JW faith that they think that if I leave the faith that I will die. My mom has told me time and time again that my life depends on it. I personally believe I will be fine away from their religion once I get on my feet and be able to start my own life. Then I will start trying to rebuild my relationship with my parents, but that won't be able to happen until after I have left. I respect that as long as I live in their house I have to go to church, but since I'm 18 I do believe what I do outside of church should be somewhat up to me. I'm not going to go wild or anything. I just want to be able to get a job and have the freedom to call up a friend (that doesn't go to their church) every once in a while and grab something to eat or hangout.
 
   / Are my parents to strict? #138  
You are exactly right. That's why I'm scared about talking to my parents. It's either their religion or no family and support at all. My parents are so into the JW faith that they think that if I leave the faith that I will die. My mom has told me time and time again that my life depends on it. I personally believe I will be fine away from their religion once I get on my feet and be able to start my own life. Then I will start trying to rebuild my relationship with my parents, but that won't be able to happen until after I have left. I respect that as long as I live in their house I have to go to church, but since I'm 18 I do believe what I do outside of church should be somewhat up to me. I'm not going to go wild or anything. I just want to be able to get a job and have the freedom to call up a friend (that doesn't go to their church) every once in a while and grab something to eat or hangout.

As others have said, in very few words, you've been able to convey what an intelligent person you are with a ton of potential. It sounds like you have a plan and it seems to be the best one available to you. Continue to pursue the FD and graduate from HS.

There are two things I really think you should take away from this thread. The first is that people can see how bright you are and how well you'll do after you get out of this situation. The second is that time is very much relative to your age, right now your plans seem to take for ever to realize, but as you get older you'll wonder how it happened so fast. Reach out the best you can to work on feelings of depression and keep a positive outlook. Your plans will work out and you will re-establish a relationship with your parents. Oh, and I promise you that your mom is wrong, you won't die without religion, I'd of been a goner a LOOOOONG time ago if that where true :laughing:
 
   / Are my parents to strict? #139  
You are exactly right. That's why I'm scared about talking to my parents. It's either their religion or no family and support at all. My parents are so into the JW faith that they think that if I leave the faith that I will die. My mom has told me time and time again that my life depends on it. I personally believe I will be fine away from their religion once I get on my feet and be able to start my own life. Then I will start trying to rebuild my relationship with my parents, but that won't be able to happen until after I have left. I respect that as long as I live in their house I have to go to church, but since I'm 18 I do believe what I do outside of church should be somewhat up to me. I'm not going to go wild or anything. I just want to be able to get a job and have the freedom to call up a friend (that doesn't go to their church) every once in a while and grab something to eat or hangout.

Well, don't talk about it with your parents, that would be a conversation that is pointless and will not end well. Bide your time, set your goals, and when you can--just do it, skip the talk. Be polite, send birthday, etc., cards, but be true to yourself and get on with your life.

In one sense, your Mom is correct, YOUR life is at stake. If you aren't relating/committing to the religious aspects of your family's life, then you will not be happy living a lie pretending that you do. It is only going to get worse. What happens if Mom doesn't approve of the girl you fall in love with? Will you marry an "approved" wife and wonder the rest of your life about what may have been? Or, wonder if you really should have joined the Air Force?

I don't like to criticize perfect strangers, but to answer your initial question, "Are my parents too strict?", if you can't visit a family-oriented tractor forum and openly share/discuss that with your parents at age 17, then yes, your parents are a bit "out there."

I really think you would benefit from some counseling from a professional, it could be helpful in allowing you to sort your feelings out a bit. Maybe there are resources you could find in your community? You should have access to services at your local public school, even though you are home schooling.
 
   / Are my parents to strict?
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As others have said, in very few words, you've been able to convey what an intelligent person you are with a ton of potential. It sounds like you have a plan and it seems to be the best one available to you. Continue to pursue the FD and graduate from HS.

There are two things I really think you should take away from this thread. The first is that people can see how bright you are and how well you'll do after you get out of this situation. The second is that time is very much relative to your age, right now your plans seem to take for ever to realize, but as you get older you'll wonder how it happened so fast. Reach out the best you can to work on feelings of depression and keep a positive outlook. Your plans will work out and you will re-establish a relationship with your parents. Oh, and I promise you that your mom is wrong, you won't die without religion, I'd of been a goner a LOOOOONG time ago if that where true :laughing:

Thank you. Yeah, I guess I just want it so bad I don't want to wait. I've always kinda had a problem with being patient. Plus being a young adult makes things seem far off when really there not.
 

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