We use both, got tired of fixing leaks. A few weeks ago we built a $100k power unit and the company we built it for had there hands do the labor for the piping. I strongly suggested them to use both they declined and to me their boss said no tape! I don't argue with people anymore, so I let them do it. I fired the unit up and even the charge pressure fittings leaked. Got some heat into the unit and at 3000psi it was leaking badly at 5000psi most fittings had a steady stream coming out of them. Guess who fixed it. They did and on a Saturday and taped EVERY fitting. And I did NOT help, told them I would see them on Monday. Like I said done arguing with people. CJ