TSO
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You might be getting bad information ... Daedong (Kioti) is from S Korea.
Who builds Cabela's brand tractors?
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You might be getting bad information ... Daedong (Kioti) is from S Korea.
MHarryE
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Checking on how true the statement is that all the diesels other than Chinese have sleeves. At Caterpillar I do not believe we build any engines 7.0 liters or smaller with sleeves - they are all parent more. Just for kicks I checked the engine rebuild kits on a few JD CUT's and none of them supply sleeves either in the kit or as a service part. I know older small diesels had them but with improvement in block material things change. Also with customers demanding better reliability parent bore blocks began replacing sleeved blocks on a lot of smaller diesels many years ago. At Cat/Perkins when we changed the 4.0 and 6.0 engines to 4.4 and 6.6 liters we went from sleeved to parent bore but our small diesels introduced in the late 90s were all parent bores. Believe it or not on small engines it is less expensive to replace a block than replace sleeves whether wet or dry sleeve.
farmstart
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South Korea is about the same as Chinese in my opinion. lol. As far as engine building goes. My TYM is Korean but the only reason I bought it was because of the cat 2.2/ Perkins 404D. That's the only must have really is a quality engine and readily available parts.
TSO
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Ok, no offense, but I'm going to stop taking anything you say as something worth listening to... You've lost your credibility with that one...
Cherokee140
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Ahhh yup. Could someone be anymore clueless and make more of a stupid statement then South Korea and Chinese are the same in his opinion.....well everyone can have their own opinion, but you have to take into account what else he thinks before listening to any advise.
gkm
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Totally agree! It's statements like these that appear to be nothing but someone trying to get a rise out of others or completely clueless in regards to their manufacturing credentials and track record.
TomSeller
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The South Koreans are making some outstanding products on many fronts, tractors and engines being some of them. I don't have any tractors made there, but am impressed by what I hear from satisfied owners. There is no question that South Korea is on the quality tractor map.
almaryholm
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I have a T450 and found a trans/hyd filter ( NAPA gold 1621) for I think $40.00 with AAA discount...
farmstart
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ok. Let me clarify my thought process a little bit. There are many parts that you can fix or repair on a foreign tractor if the fail and you can no longer get parts for with a little fabrication. Such as the, hydraulic system , controls, FEL's , you could have adapters made to run different rims if they were a strange bolt patern only used on a foreign productions. The one thing I realized is that the engine is the only part that would be almost impossible to replace if said tractor company went out of business. There is a set bolt patern on the bell housing. There is only one engine that is going to bolt up. While I realize There are companies out there that could machine adapters on a CNC machine to addapt a completely different motor to a foreign transmission the cost would be enormous. So to me weather the engine was made in Korea or China it wouldn't matter. The tractor manufacturer or the engine manufactuer could go bankrupt. Leaving you with no way to get parts or a replacement engine.
Secondly a foreign engine no matter where it was made wouldn't have a history of performance and reliability. Wich would affect the resale value. Like the Bellaruse tractors or nortrack tractors. I have seen people selling well running tractors at an almost give away price. Like For instance I saw a 60 H.P. Belarus tractor with 1400 hours the owner was asking 6 grand. It took him more than a year to sell it and he only got 3500 for it.
Now if you had a John deere engine, or a Cat engine or a Kubota engine in that foreign tractor. People would feel a little more at ease with buying a foreign tractor because they are known for reliable motors there is a sales and service network out there for the motors and parts are readily available. So it would put the buyer at ease.
For instance MTM. Is made in Korea But my engine is the Cat 2.2 / Perkins 404d. When I was comparing tractors. I could search the history of that motor. I found the problems that they had had and they had been corrected by Cat standing by their product and putting brand new replacement engines into machines that had problems. They had a standing T.S.B. to warranty with replacement engines until 2012.
The cause was faulty manufacturing and machine work at the factory where they were having the motors built. Odly enough the factory was in China. Lol. Anyways despite all the info that is available on the Lawsuit Cat had filed the point I am making is. If you don't know know the reputation of your engine maker it doesn't matter where it is made. It could be made at the North pole in Santas work shop and it wouldn't matter