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Lets talk small utility trailers,78 inches wide x 14 feet long.
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Diamondpilot
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Nice. I'm surprised it weighs 1600# empty though.
How do you like the placement of the license plate? It seems like it would be easy to tear off there.
Chris
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I haven't payed the Illinois tax yet, so, I have not gotten a plate yet.
I know I will not like the plate location.
1600 pounds, where did you get that from?
I know I will not like the plate location.
1600 pounds, where did you get that from?
timswi
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2990# GVWR - 1400# advertised payload = ~1600#
2990# is the typical un-braked single axle utility, from my experience anyway.
Nice trailer...My 6x12 single axle utility goes 1200# net. So not out of the ball park.
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Tim, 1400 pounds payload is a crock of you know what I mean LOL
Take 3500 pounds and minus the trailer, 1600 pounds, that gives me 1900 pounds payload capacity.
Edit=I also don't think the trailer is 1600 pound either.
Take 3500 pounds and minus the trailer, 1600 pounds, that gives me 1900 pounds payload capacity.
Edit=I also don't think the trailer is 1600 pound either.
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True, but that whole legality thing gets in the way...As long as nothing goes wrong, no one will bother you. I used to overload my 6x12 and never had a problem although they get tough to stop when at or over capacity...Just sayin.
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Ya, I know, it will not get over loaded by me.
A John Deere X534 occasionally, and hopefully two quads.
I wanted a brake, but they wanted 275 bucks, I said "pound sand"
A John Deere X534 occasionally, and hopefully two quads.
I wanted a brake, but they wanted 275 bucks, I said "pound sand"
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They derated it to 2990# because in his state and most others any trailer with a GVWR of 3000# or more require brakes and a brake away kit capable of holding the trailer for 15 minutes.
By the way, the price he was quoted for brakes was fair. It would have included the brakes, brake away, battery, additional wiring, and an additional 500# of legal payload. By not doing so at the time of manufacturing he will always have a trailer limited by the posted GVWR even if he adds brakes unless he can get the manufacturer to re issue the data plate or he titles it as "Home Made" then setting the GVWR to 3500#.
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Ah....
to bad... a trailer of that build quality I would have put a 5200lb under it and been happy with 4500lbs payload. 500lb tongue weight is still reasonable for most SUV's
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Roger, the wife called the DMV today, I can't get a small plate for the trailer.
I think I'm going to weld a bracket above the left tail light for the license plate.
I think I'm going to weld a bracket above the left tail light for the license plate.
leonardo
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hello markcuda. just some food for thought. i purchased a liberty 14' x 6' tandem axle with brakes and wooden sides to haul firewood from family farm to my house. it is a 150 mile round trip. from input on tractorbynet i decided to have the wheels balanced. picked up trailer, drove it home approx 15 miles. immediately took 4 wheels and tires to monroe muffler for balancing. monroe calls me, says we balanced but three of the rims are bent, wtf! technician says " i never had to put so much metal on a wheel before to get it to balance". i'm a little upset, why didn't they call me and tell me this before they did the work? took 4 mounted tires back to dealer and they replaced all 4 with different brand tires and rims they had in stock, after calling monroe to verify no abuse on my part. have not balanced the new set yet, that's on the books for prior to first use this spring. dealer says not liberty's fault cause all rims now made in china hmmmm. be aware of my experience. otherwise liberty is a nice stout trailer and has served me well.
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1400 pounds sounds about right for a trailer that size. After pulling my 6x12 enclosed without brakes for a few years, I'm getting brakes on the new open utility and paying a fortune to have brakes added to the enclosed. We all load to legal capacity and then some, and with an extra couple of tons back there pushing when some idiot pulls in front of you because they don't want to get stuck behind a trailer.... well, I'll never go without trailer brakes again.
That all said, looks like a nice trailer you have there. I'm sure you'll have many years of trailering fun with it, just leave lots of room ahead for the idiots.....
That all said, looks like a nice trailer you have there. I'm sure you'll have many years of trailering fun with it, just leave lots of room ahead for the idiots.....
RandyT
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The first time you come up to an intersection with loose sand or gravel at the stop sign with a tow vehicle with 4 wheel antilock brakes you will be wishing you spend the $275. Nothing like the feeling of slowing down coming to a stop and having the truck brakes say OH I am slipping and turn loose, and with 2000+ pushing you will stop on the other side of the intersection. Been there and done that. Went from a 6x12 with no brakes to a 7x14 tandem with brakes on both axles about 3 weeks after the above mentioned situation.
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leonardo, thank you very much for the information on the wheels.
My intentions were to get the three tires balanced.
All three look good but it was only 110 miles pulling the trailer.
I've been welding things on the trailer for two Saturdays now, I will post some
pictures of all the goodies:cool2:
My intentions were to get the three tires balanced.
All three look good but it was only 110 miles pulling the trailer.
I've been welding things on the trailer for two Saturdays now, I will post some
pictures of all the goodies:cool2:
That stinks you can't get a small plate. The tag will work good on the tail light or on the fender.
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Here are a few pictures of the stuff I've added to make my trailer more to my liking.
I set my jack pad into this gizmo, I can wheel the trailer
around the drive way and garage like nothing at all.
I set my jack pad into this gizmo, I can wheel the trailer
around the drive way and garage like nothing at all.
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Two front stake pockets that it did not come with.
