KiwiBro
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the 10kWh option is not for daily cycling. Further, it is the whole system cost that needs to be highlighted because a battery is useless in isolation.
Wind Turbine ********. Just opened the mail and seen the plan for three massive units
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The value of wages and the dollar are lower now, printing 6 trillion from thin air has consequences. . HS
really
Less daily cycling only increases per KW cost
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Wind farms are eyesores for sure, I don't mind the look of solar fields at all, wind farm though, you couldn't give me enough money if they had to be on my property with me living there.
Loren49
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After living about 1200 ft from a 1.5MW wind turbine (395 ft tall) for the past 9 years, I am entertained by the gloom and doom crowd. I am on the edge of a 195 unit wind farm.
There are many, many things that would be much more objectionable to me. The vast majpority of residents of our County are satisfied with this sort of industry in our back yard. The PILOT contributes 9 million a year in tax relief plus about 1.5 million to landowners along with a good number of jobs. They do not require infrastructure improvements by local municipalities as most industries do. They require negligible acreage (farms use all but a very small footprint from the tower) I've heard all the gloom and doom many times and all of it is exaggerated/distorted. The vibration claim is made up....no negative health effects....those who have a great dislike are actually annoyed by them but that's it!
Wind turbine noise not linked to health problems, Health Canada finds - Technology & Science - CBC News
A Health Canada study has found no link between exposure to wind turbine noise and negative health effects in people.
Wind turbine noise did not have any measurable effect on illness and chronic disease, stress and sleep quality, Health Canada said.
However, the louder the wind turbine noise was, the more people reported being very or extremely annoyed, the department reported in a summary released today of the Wind Turbine Noise and Health Study.
The $2.1-million study, conducted with Statistics Canada in southern Ontario and Prince Edward Island, was launched in 2012. At that time, groups such as Wind Concerns Ontario had alleged that growing numbers of wind turbines were making people ill.
Sound: wind energy and human health
Studies show no evidence for direct human health effects from wind turbines
The credible peer-reviewed scientific data and various government reports in the United States, Canada, Australia and the United Kingdom refute the claim that wind farms cause negative health impacts.
In their own independent reviews of available evidence, Ontario’s Chief Medical Officer of Health and Australia’s National Health and Medical Research Council found that sound from wind turbines does not cause negative health impacts.
Additionally, the Massachusetts Departments of Environmental Protection and of Public Health recently commissioned a panel of experts with backgrounds in public health, epidemiology, toxicology, neurology and sleep medicine, neuroscience, and mechanical engineering to analyze “the biological plausibility or basis for health effects of turbines (noise, vibration, and flicker).” The review of existing studies included both peer-reviewed and non-peer reviewed literature.
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Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and many find this means of production of electricity quite pleasing. (Beats living next to nuclear, coal, gas production plants or mines/wells)
Loren
There are many, many things that would be much more objectionable to me. The vast majpority of residents of our County are satisfied with this sort of industry in our back yard. The PILOT contributes 9 million a year in tax relief plus about 1.5 million to landowners along with a good number of jobs. They do not require infrastructure improvements by local municipalities as most industries do. They require negligible acreage (farms use all but a very small footprint from the tower) I've heard all the gloom and doom many times and all of it is exaggerated/distorted. The vibration claim is made up....no negative health effects....those who have a great dislike are actually annoyed by them but that's it!
Wind turbine noise not linked to health problems, Health Canada finds - Technology & Science - CBC News
A Health Canada study has found no link between exposure to wind turbine noise and negative health effects in people.
Wind turbine noise did not have any measurable effect on illness and chronic disease, stress and sleep quality, Health Canada said.
However, the louder the wind turbine noise was, the more people reported being very or extremely annoyed, the department reported in a summary released today of the Wind Turbine Noise and Health Study.
The $2.1-million study, conducted with Statistics Canada in southern Ontario and Prince Edward Island, was launched in 2012. At that time, groups such as Wind Concerns Ontario had alleged that growing numbers of wind turbines were making people ill.
Sound: wind energy and human health
Studies show no evidence for direct human health effects from wind turbines
The credible peer-reviewed scientific data and various government reports in the United States, Canada, Australia and the United Kingdom refute the claim that wind farms cause negative health impacts.
In their own independent reviews of available evidence, Ontario’s Chief Medical Officer of Health and Australia’s National Health and Medical Research Council found that sound from wind turbines does not cause negative health impacts.
Additionally, the Massachusetts Departments of Environmental Protection and of Public Health recently commissioned a panel of experts with backgrounds in public health, epidemiology, toxicology, neurology and sleep medicine, neuroscience, and mechanical engineering to analyze “the biological plausibility or basis for health effects of turbines (noise, vibration, and flicker).” The review of existing studies included both peer-reviewed and non-peer reviewed literature.
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Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and many find this means of production of electricity quite pleasing. (Beats living next to nuclear, coal, gas production plants or mines/wells)
Loren
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$2500? Try $1500. Last fall I bought a Latitude E65xx (15" screen, 4th gen i5, 8GB of RAM, 500GB spinning disk, 128GB SSD, Win7 Pro, ABGN wireless, Bluetooth, backlit keyboard with a built in 10key pad and a 3 year NBD onsite warranty) for just under $1500. Granted, I ordered the SSD and 4GB of the RAM from Amazon, but still.
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Very true
KiwiBro
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Which is partly why the German battery option with Sony's batteries is more compelling, and it's already on the market. Tesla is a day late and a buck short from a pure specs perspective, but nobody else in this market can hype it like they can and I would also suggest nobody else can milk the subsidies quite as good as them also.
I can't help but feel just their marketing ability and reach is going to be rising the tide for everyone else, growing the overall market like very few players in such a market could ever hope to achieve without Tesla's presence.
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