Gooseneck or bumper pull?

   / Gooseneck or bumper pull? #21  
My truck is rated at 13k conventional towing and 14k GN. If I go GN, I gain 1k lbs towing but the trailer will likely be 500 lbs heavier so only gaining 500 lbs towing. GN trailer will cost abt $500 more plus equiping my truck with hitch will be abt $400. Bumper pull gains me bed space but a may lose tongue weight but I do already have a weight distributing hitch but find them yet another step when loading. Truck is a Chevy 2500 6L. Any other advantages to a GN? What would you do?


I ran Into the same thing. I had a GN and now a bumper pull. For me it's the way to go. I gain so much with the bed that I was able to get a smaller trailer that I can keep in the Garage, 18' BP vs 25' GN.

Chris
 
   / Gooseneck or bumper pull? #22  
I would own both. I think the GN is more than $500 and more weight than 500lbs over the BP. If you need to carry more
implements you need more floor space.
 
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did you quote what length that was? I'm inclined to believe its the 16'. clearly a 16' and a 30' are not going to have the same curb weight.

Same length for each. The more relevant figure is the difference, all else being equal. Total may go up based on length but the difference shouldn't change if both same length.
 
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Got this reply from PJ:

The gooseneck option adds approx. 600 lbs to the trailer

Bob Letkeman
PJ Trailers, Mfg. Co.
1807 FM 2352
Sumner, TX 75486
903-785-6879 (Office)
 
   / Gooseneck or bumper pull? #28  
I have another problem that hasn't been brought up in this thread. I have a 2wd dually F350. When leaving where my shop is I have to go up a steeper gravel driveway. When towing my 24ft. bumper pull trailer empty it spins out quite a bit. when loaded around 7000lbs. it won't make it. does a gooseneck help with traction for the truck? I know I need to get the limited slip upgraded at a minimum as well. Just trying to learn my options before giving up
and looking for a 4wd.
 
   / Gooseneck or bumper pull? #29  
What have you tried for ballast in the truck bed, and how are you distributing weight on the trailer? It sounds like your tongue weight gets lower after you load the trailer, or more specifically when the forces change from the horizontal to the incline. I'd try getting more weight in front of the front axle on the trailer and/or getting weight in the truck bed over the rear tires before I looked at retooling the set-up. That said, there are some tough roads, curves, and situations out there.
Goosenecks advantage is supposed to be the superior weight distribution across all tires, where bumper pull without load leveler levers weight off the front axle and adds to the rear. Your description sounds like the loaded trailer may be removing weight from the trucks rear axle, or that the roadbed is too loose to stay put. 4wd is great for snow, but I've never used it towing--I have a lot of tongue weight on my bumper pull, but its only a 20ft trailer, and I don't tend to have more than 6000# on it, on a 2007 4wd f350... I guess the load with trailer may be up over 8000#. Does have the heavy 6.0 over the front truck axle which helps me feel better about getting more weight in front of the front trailer axle without lightening the front of the truck much.
I'd get some weight in the truck itself and see if that can overcome your moment when the load exceeds the traction on the grade... if its the roadbed that's giving out rather than the set-up some refreshing might be the easiest cheapest solution.
 
   / Gooseneck or bumper pull? #30  
I have another problem that hasn't been brought up in this thread. I have a 2wd dually F350. When leaving where my shop is I have to go up a steeper gravel driveway. When towing my 24ft. bumper pull trailer empty it spins out quite a bit. when loaded around 7000lbs. it won't make it. does a gooseneck help with traction for the truck? I know I need to get the limited slip upgraded at a minimum as well. Just trying to learn my options before giving up
and looking for a 4wd.

I am guessing it aint gonna help much. You have the ability to run more tongue weight on a GN, an more tongue weight helps traction. But the effective weight on the drive tires is probably the same.

IE: 1500# pin weight directly over the axles probably dont put any more weight on the drive tires than 500# on the bumper. The whole leverage thing...

I think you need 4wd, or more speed
 

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