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woolyAcres
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Hoye's does have them but I think it's going to be a fall back position. If I can get it off I'll try my hand at welding it and hopefully save some money over replacing it.
New (to me) YM240D
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Somewhere in this thread (?) I linked to a photo of the YM240 OEM divider block, after I installed a pressure gauge on it.
Here's an earlier photo. Without the gauge its easier to see. This block can be configured pass-through if no loader. By inserting a plug, fluid goes out one connection and returns into another, for a loader valve plumbed in series ahead of the 3-point.
Here's an earlier photo. Without the gauge its easier to see. This block can be configured pass-through if no loader. By inserting a plug, fluid goes out one connection and returns into another, for a loader valve plumbed in series ahead of the 3-point.
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You know it's interesting that you posted this because I've actually been tempted to remove the loader so I can work on it but I wasn't quite sure what to do about the hydraulics. I'm not sure I'll go this route right now, but it's nice to know there's a way to plug the hydraulic system while operating without the FEL. Thanks.
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@careyo63-
Thanks for the link. The PTO shift lever in one of those photos looks just like mine. If the removal of mine gets ugly, I'll contact them to see if they'd be willing to sell just that piece.
Thanks.
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The YM186D I'm selling has a short hose from Out to In on its divider block, apparently to maintain the Series configuration after some hydraulic-powered accessory was removed. That might be simpler than buying the internal plug you need. Or maybe you make the block pass-through by removing a plug that's already inside it and capping the ports?
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I had a chance to rebuild the lift-arm cylinders today. The loader seems to lift okay but not great. There's still something clearly wrong with the curl function. Even when empty the loader took about 60 seconds to curl from tip-of-bucket pointing downward all the way to tip-of-bucket pointing upward. "Uncurling" was 5-7 seconds. The loader was able to lift the stones shown in the picture, but when I stood in the bucket along with these stones it would not lift. I had my landscape rake attached to the 3PT hitch for a bit of counter weight. My best guess is those stones weigh about 100lbs each so it seems able to lift 400lbs (plus weight of bucket) but not 150" more than that.
I'm quite certain there are problems with the loader control. As soon as I can sell the rear PTO pump that came with this tractor I'll use that to replace the loader control and hopefully the worst hoses. But it's no longer leaking fluid everywhere. It's usable as is until I can replace the control valve.
No luck getting that frozen PTO shift lever off. That bugger is really stuck on there. I used two fiber reinforced wheels trying to cut the frozen piece in half. It's in a difficult stop but hopefully I'll get that removed soon. I've got brush hogging I'd like to get to while the weather is still so nice.
I'm quite certain there are problems with the loader control. As soon as I can sell the rear PTO pump that came with this tractor I'll use that to replace the loader control and hopefully the worst hoses. But it's no longer leaking fluid everywhere. It's usable as is until I can replace the control valve.
No luck getting that frozen PTO shift lever off. That bugger is really stuck on there. I used two fiber reinforced wheels trying to cut the frozen piece in half. It's in a difficult stop but hopefully I'll get that removed soon. I've got brush hogging I'd like to get to while the weather is still so nice.
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Todd8665
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Cant help with the PRO lever, but I have, since the beginning of your posts on this, been suspicious of your valve bank. 100% uneducated suspicious that is. If i had done this to my own tractor I'd be much braver recommending you to attempt it... My bucket does the opposite.. When dumping it can "hang" where nothing is happening at all, or it is going down very slowly. It has always recovered though. I truly believe my, and your problem, is some gunk stuck(or bad o-rings) in the valve bank, but having never tore one down before, and I am hesitant to do so unless it stops completely...all bets are off in that case.
Mine recovers after a few seconds so I haven't been forced to tear into it. I don't want to recommend to you to do this, as i lack the experience to do so, but it just seems that, all things being equal, you are lacking flow to your lift and curl cylinders and nowhere else?/. The bottleneck must therefore be your valve bank? My 2210 would life those rocks, you, me, and your pretty wife with little more than a grunt.
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Before you do anything else, I would strongly recommend that you go buy a 5000PSI liquid filled gauge and the appropriate hydraulic fittings (NOT pipe fittings from Lowes) so you can tee it into the "pressure in" port of your loader valve. That will tell you if the problem is a weak pump that can't build enough pressure or the valves. It sounds a lot like a weak pump to me.
Aaron Z
My Tractor is 2000BD with loader... I don't know why my tractor is doing this, but it doing the same thing yours is... Here's what I have found that works... When I need to lift something real heavy. I have to raise my 3 point all the way up to the top...If the 3 point is down just a little I don't have near as much lifting power with my loader...If the 3 point is up I can lift 1,000+ lbs... Now the curl... If the 3 point is all the way up to the top... My loader will NOT curl down or up...It is super slow... Now if I let the 3 point down just a little say 1 or 2 inches the curl is fast... Give it a try on your tractor and see what the experts have to say about a the fix... I know nothing about the hydraulics... My loader is hooked up off the pump with the Hoye Tractor Parts... HA-38 HYDRAULIC ADAPTER - ADD A LOADER / LOG SPLITTER Link here>>>Yanmar Tractor Parts HYDRAULIC ADAPTER - ADD A LOADER / LOG SPLITTER