O my, I am comfused

[AxleHub]

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Axle im not in business selling tractors. So my quote does not hold any type of liablility! I am a new buyer and learning.

I posted for people to see what they do, i had no idea i would get such responses that favor them and not the customer. Got another guy saying car dealer have been doing this for a long time.

I guess the responce I was looking for was the opposite. Like horrible dealer etc.

I think many who use tractors understand dealers are human and make mistakes in accuracy or sometimes in judgement.

But I also think that people who use tractors are not generally eagerly legalistic by nature. They might have to fight for something on occasion . . but it is neither a desired or wanted event.

Some people are ambulance chasers wanting to sue or threaten merely to take advantage of human omission or error to make a buck. Its not the issue that tractor people are weak or passive . . just the reverse . . but they are used to working for value . . not trying to screw someone with legal tricks.

At least that would be my impression of "most" tractor users. There are some "kidney punchers" . . . but I want to believe they focus on honest efforts and object verbally when it isn't a two way street.

My point I made to you was you were changing your story just as that dealer did with you. Multiple posts saying you would hammer dealers down to 15k and then suddenly saying 19k might be possible for a unit that was less potential quality.

Nikko . . I'm saying this politely . . you're a rookie just learning the initial phases yet you make quick judgements of dealers motives and your capacity to control others. The experiences you get as you see and test machines will teach you much that many readers here already know.

Again . . politely stated.

 

[tbzep]

Got another guy saying car dealer have been doing this for a long time.

My point about car dealers is that we are used to this in the automotive world and should expect no different from a tractor dealer, especially considering they don't sell anywhere near as many tractors as a car dealership. Not only are there fewer customers, the buyer of a compact or utility size tractor is more likely to own it for life as he will probably never wear it out. Folks that buy cars trade them in all the time. I don't like bait-n-switch or any other nefarious sales tactic, so I prepare the best I can before buying a car, and now a tractor.

I'm still running the 1948 Farmall Cub and 1952 Ford 8N that I grew up with. If the local folks I buy hay from would quit buying bigger and bigger hay balers, I wouldn't be in the market for a tractor right now.

 

[TomSeller]

This is capitalism. Buyer beware.

 

[sd455dan]

And if im gonna spend in the 19,000 range i will save more and get a compact vs a sub compact.

That may be a good idea-

a couple of quotes that appear quite often on TBN

Buy enough tractor the first time

Tractors seem to shrink after you get them home

jmo but I get the feeling from your posts that you may be happier with a CUT - possibly even a used one... versus a new subcompact-
Your Initial impressions/reservations even for a rookie should not be discounted .

good Luck with your tractor search

 

[TomSeller]

That may be a good idea-

a couple of quotes that appear quite often on TBN

Buy enough tractor the first time

Tractors seem to shrink after you get them home

jmo but I get the feeling from your posts that you may be happier with a CUT - possibly even a used one... versus a new subcompact-
Your Initial impressions/reservations even for a rookie should not be discounted .

good Luck with your tractor search

What doesn't shrink is the impression tires from heavy tractors put on a lawn. So if there is no lawn work, great, get the heavy tractor. If there is lawn work, consider the lighter models.

 

[sd455dan]

What doesn't shrink is the impression tires from heavy tractors put on a lawn. So if there is no lawn work, great, get the heavy tractor. If there is lawn work, consider the lighter models.

Totally agree with that Tom- actually had that in the post and removed it.
but i think the OP should keep a riding mower IF going up in size to a CUT.

 

[AxleHub]

I'm repeating myself from a prior post but the OP mentioned he had 2 acres and all his neighbors have landscaper/lawncare people taking care of the yards etc..

I just don't know how much wood cutting will be allowed or how much compact sized tractor work will be allowed in that neighborhood. I live in a very nice rural/suburban neighborhood of 1 to 1.5 acre homes and none are landscaper maintained except fertilizing/spraying. Everyone cuts their own lawns and clears their own driveways. A neighborhood of pro maintained yards normally has multiple restrictions and expectations including wood burning etc..

It just seems like too many opinions are trying to move the OPs property into hobby farm mentality. We don't even know if he's allowed to have a detached accessory building to fit a compact tractor and implements. We do know from his numerous early posts that most of his 2 acres is lawn with some woods.

 

[gladehound]

Exactly, tracks beat tires for traction every time, and weight beats HP every time it is tried.

Check out this tractor pulling a dozer all over this field. Makes you question if tracks really are superior for traction because the dozer (D3? 30,000 lbs?) looks heavier than the tractor (large MF? 25000 lbs?).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrENDH4_5H8

My cousin who has tractors and has a Bobcat T300 (triangle tracked skid steer) told me that a tractor anywhere near the size of the T300 will out pull it. Just his opinion. We haven't hooked them up.

 

[gladehound]

I'm repeating myself from a prior post but the OP mentioned he had 2 acres and all his neighbors have landscaper/lawncare people taking care of the yards etc..

I just don't know how much wood cutting will be allowed or how much compact sized tractor work will be allowed in that neighborhood. I live in a very nice rural/suburban neighborhood of 1 to 1.5 acre homes and none are landscaper maintained except fertilizing/spraying. Everyone cuts their own lawns and clears their own driveways. A neighborhood of pro maintained yards normally has multiple restrictions and expectations including wood burning etc..

It just seems like too many opinions are trying to move the OPs property into hobby farm mentality. We don't even know if he's allowed to have a detached accessory building to fit a compact tractor and implements. We do know from his numerous early posts that most of his 2 acres is lawn with some woods.

I still don't have a good idea of the tasks the OP wants to do with a machine (or machines). He mentioned a few things but left out critical details needed to size a machine. It would be nice to have more specifics so that we aren't left guessing.

 

[k0ua]

Check out this tractor pulling a dozer all over this field. Makes you question if tracks really are superior for traction because the dozer (D3? 30,000 lbs?) looks heavier than the tractor (large MF? 25000 lbs?).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrENDH4_5H8

My cousin who has tractors and has a Bobcat T300 (triangle tracked skid steer) told me that a tractor anywhere near the size of the T300 will out pull it. Just his opinion. We haven't hooked them up.

The grousers on the Dozer were not just worn down to nothing, they were "gone". Or as near as I can tell from the crummy video resolution.