Snake Guards (leggins)

   / Snake Guards (leggins) #21  
I've lived in Georgia as well for almost 20-years and other than a few water moccasins seen fishing I have never seen a live poisonous snake in the woods. I did see a huge Eastern Diamondback right after it had been run over so they are obviously around. If the creepy crawlies stay out of my house and yard I say live and let live, they fill a niche in the ecosystem.
These gators would be what I would get, easy on and off.

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#22  
I've lived in Georgia as well for almost 20-years and other than a few water moccasins seen fishing I have never seen a live poisonous snake in the woods. I did see a huge Eastern Diamondback right after it had been run over so they are obviously around. If the creepy crawlies stay out of my house and yard I say live and let live, they fill a niche in the ecosystem.
These gators would be what I would get, easy on and off.

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I do appreciate the encouragement about not seeing snakes. I'm a newbie to Georgia and have seen only one water moccasin, of which I laid to rest. Having spent about 70 years in Texas, both South Texas and West Texas, what I've learned is that you usually don't see the snake that bites you BEFORE it does. So, I'm putting caution before comfort here.

Now, if you want to see some genuine poisonous snakes, you might visit the Canyon Lake area, or just about anywhere out in West Texas. They're there. And they bite. Hopefully I won't be seeing any of those big guys around here.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #23  
I killed 3 water moccasins and 1 copperhead this week. Everyone around here says they are bad this year. I have been hit one time. Stepped on a copperhead. He stuck my boot. I was wearing rubber boots. The fangs went in the boot and the venom wet the inside layer.
Boot should be good for bits, snakes usually do not strike high. I spent many years hunting rattle snakes. I considered snake leggings then because when you gas a den they may come out of the den in any crack or hole around you. I have had some very big snakes come up behind me on a rock I was sitting on.
I had my closest experience on a mountain side in Oklahoma. The ground was steep enough that I could reach out and touch it while I was standing, trying to make my way along it. I looked down and found a rattler at groin level. I pulled my groin back and that put my face down to it. I raised my head and my groin went back towards it. I then made a turn and a controlled fall down the hill. I was lucky not to find any snakes while falling down the hill.
 
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I killed 3 water moccasins and 1 copperhead this week. Everyone around here says they are bad this year. I have been hit one time. Stepped on a copperhead. He stuck my boot. I was wearing rubber boots. The fangs went in the boot and the venom wet the inside layer.
Boot should be good for bits, snakes usually do not strike high. I spent many years hunting rattle snakes. I considered snake leggings then because when you gas a den they may come out of the den in any crack or hole around you. I have had some very big snakes come up behind me on a rock I was sitting on.
I had my closest experience on a mountain side in Oklahoma. The ground was steep enough that I could reach out and touch it while I was standing, trying to make my way along it. I looked down and found a rattler at groin level. I pulled my groin back and that put my face down to it. I raised my head and my groin went back towards it. I then made a turn and a controlled fail down the hill. I was lucky not to find any snakes while falling down the hill.

Geez! Close call. I'll say this, you're braver than I am. I've seen a lot of snakes, including some 6' rattlers. And those big guys will dang sure fight you! They aren't afraid of man nor beast. yeah, I'll start wearing some legging's; at least I'll feel safer.

Thanks for sharing your experience. That even makes me a little 'willy' just reading about it.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #25  

A late second vote for this type of protection. I got a fiberglass pair about 1984. Still wear them on occasion. I've probably worn them more when "weed eating" while wearing shorts. They are great easy protection and one size fits most. I've "lent" them to most of the family at one time or other, which I couldn't do with just boots.

Geez! Close call. I'll say this, you're braver than I am. I've seen a lot of snakes, including some 6' rattlers. And those big guys will dang sure fight you! They aren't afraid of man nor beast. yeah, I'll start wearing some legging's; at least I'll feel safer.

Thanks for sharing your experience. That even makes me a little 'willy' just reading about it.
Don't trust "thigh high" chaps, be aware of your surroundings. I've seen big snakes in trees, and they don't read the books that say they can't strike above a certain level.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #26  
I thought the same thing about those snakes, wimpy. They act nothing like our Timber Rattlers or our Copperheads. I don't think I paid $300 maybe $199 - less than an Ambo ride. I was looking for a good pair of leather boots but these won out for comfort with my very wide foot.

I reckoned you must have some bad tempered snakes too. What is an Ambo? Google says it is a type of lectern or a place in Ethiopia.

And a later post....... snakes climb trees and scrub a lot more than people think, although I still think a bite between the ankle and the knee is more likely. I once caught a small one (Adder - 2 feet) in Britain to show my BIL because he had never seen one. I then offered it to the cats. One took it right behind the head and the others ate enough of the rest that the one that held it was able to eat the head and a bit of the body.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #27  
Ambulance
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #28  
I'm getting a pair of these for use with chain sawing and general brush work- I'm getting tired of getting my shins dinged and dented, but they would prolly keep a snake safely away too.

Used U.S. Military Surplus Shinguards, Black - 3386, Military Sporting Goods at Sportsman's Guide

The review comments [except mine- they sent me a mismatched pair- both the same leg, which might have been Ok, but one was adult, and the other was Youth sized] are pretty good, and the price is hard to beat.

I priced them at sporting good stores online and locally.

Whew- baseball is an expensive hobby.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #29  
Ambulance

Thanks Joe. A little slow on the uptake - it took me a while to deduce that was for my info. Yet another expense you all have that I do not. Last year (Good Friday) I had an emergency ambulance trip in the middle of the night. Kidney stone. First visit to a Dr since the same time 13 years previously with another kidney stone-other side. No charge, and no charge for a 5 day stay in hospital either. Although I pay tax, I have never contributed to the social services system because I was over-age when I moved here.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #30  
Good lead Dennisfly! Best bang for the buck, for my use. I've ordered 2 pair.

Many thanks!

That way you'll get your free shipping! I haven't bought mine yet but soon will. They were recommended to me by a friend who swears by them. I have a store nearby, so I can pick them up and not pay shipping, and then I can browse all the other fun stuff!
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #31  
Long time ago heard of guys wearing stove pipes when bank fishing on the Columbia in north central WA. Aggressive snakes up there by the sound of the clinking on the pipes I was told.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #32  
. . . Yet another expense you all have that I do not. Last year (Good Friday) I had an emergency ambulance trip . . . No charge, and no charge for a 5 day stay in hospital either.

OK, that's why the expence of preventive care is worth it for us with a $5,000.00 deductible on health care and no free rides on the ambo. The Ambulance ride is between $500 and $1000.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #33  
I really don't know if the Kevlar jeans are snake proof or not... They're called 'Draggin Jeans', specifically made for motorcycle riding accident protection. I'm hoping there are some more knowledgeable woodsmen on here that can advise me on that. Too bad I gave most all of my leather riding gear away some time ago, including some leather chaps, when I switched to soft goods protective gear.
Good for dragging, chaffing,.. Not sharp pointed fangs. Don't forget good gloves, maybe welding type. A lot of people are bitten picking stuff up. Also don't under estimate the babies. They are as much if not more of a venomous bite, releasing all there venom.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #34  
I read (somewhere?) recently that a female black widow spider has venom in her bite that is 15 times more potent than a rattlesnake! :eek: I am a little skeptical.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #35  
Good for dragging, chaffing,.. Not sharp pointed fangs. Don't forget good gloves, maybe welding type. A lot of people are bitten picking stuff up. Also don't under estimate the babies. They are as much if not more of a venomous bite, releasing all there venom.

Good reminder on wearing leather work gloves all the time. I do, year 'round unless I'm handling rope (old Navy habit).

You're also quite right regarding baby venomous snakes, they haven't learnt to 'regulate' the amount of venom in their bite and will strike repeatedly, expelling 'the lot'. Snake handlers/removalists always say that the young ones are the most dangerous.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #36  
I carried a baby copperhead around inside lowes for about a hour in a basket that doesn't leave the store. The handle pinched it's head as it was trying to get out when I picked it up. Just happen to notice it when I was checking out. Looked like a piece of rope tangled inside basket. When I turned basket around, It's head was sticking out about 3" through the putter side. It's a miracle I or someone walking by didn't get bit. image-3223802004.png
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #37  
Various comments:

a. The closest I've come to being snake bit was while mowing a field of Christmas trees with my DR Field and Brush mower [a righteous piece of machinery]. The snake was up in a tree about shoulder high and I saw him just as he drew back to strike.

b. Most people who are bit by snakes are bitten after they identify the snake -- i.e. people decide to fool around with it and then get bit. If you leave them alone, they will leave you alone.

c. I have had a venomous spider bite a couple years ago [probably a brown recluse but could have been a black widow, no way to tell]. Bit me right at the top of my sock while driving to work. The next day I thought I had bubonic plague -- what else turns you calf black as coal with a hole that weeps bright yellow fluid. It took two trips to doctors/hospital and various antibiotics before I felt ok -- probably 10 days total. I still have a brown patch on my calf where the new skin grew over the dead skin. Please don't mess around with this should it happen to you.

d. Have bought lots of stuff from Sportsman's Guide over the years. Most was OK -- just OK. There always seemed to be a little something wrong with it -- not fatally wrong, just not what you might expect or want. I bought rubber camo hunting boots and the girth of the calf area was way too tight [and I don't have fat calfs]. Bought sneakers and they had a seem at the back that wore through the skin on my heel. Bought skiffs to slip on when I need to run out for firewood and found the catalog photo obscured the lip on the back making them non-slip-on. Bought a metal detector and it works fine but it was really short. Bought leather gantlet riding gloves and they were sort of dry and scaly. In short, I think they tend to have this stuff at such good prices because real stores [Cabalas, Gander Mountain, et al] would reject it. Won't condemn them unconditionally but buyer beware.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #38  
Various comments:

a. The closest I've come to being snake bit was while mowing a field of Christmas trees with my DR Field and Brush mower [a righteous piece of machinery]. The snake was up in a tree about shoulder high and I saw him just as he drew bac

b. Most people who are bit by snakes are bitten after they identify the snake -- i.e. people decide to fool around with it and then get bit. If you leave them alone, they will leave you alone.

c. I have had a venomous spider bite a couple years ago [probably a brown recluse but could have been a black widow, no way to tell]. Bit me right at the top of my sock while driving to work. The next day I thought I had bubonic plague -- what else turns you calf black as coal with a hole that weeps bright yellow fluid. It took two trips to doctors/hospital and various antibiotics before I felt ok -- probably 10 days total. I still have a brown patch on my calf where the new skin grew over the dead skin. Please don't mess around with this should it happen to you.

d. Have bought lots of stuff from Sportsman's Guide over the years. Most was OK -- just OK. There always seemed to be a little something wrong with it -- not fatally wrong, just not what you might expect or want. I bought rubber camo hunting boots and the girth of the calf area was way too tight [and I don't have fat calfs]. Bought sneakers and they had a seem at the back that wore through the skin on my heel. Bought skiffs to slip on when I need to run out for firewood and found the catalog photo obscured the lip on the back making them non-slip-on. Bought a metal detector and it works fine but it was really short. Bought leather gantlet riding gloves and they were sort of dry and scaly. In short, I think they tend to have this stuff at such good prices because real stores [Cabalas, Gander Mountain, et al] would reject it. Won't condemn them unconditionally but buyer beware.

Hi Dr Rod,

A) My DR Brush and Field Mower has been awesome- we had to replace the B&S engine on it after ethanol came out in regular gas, but the HF Predator replacement had been very reliable and the mower itself is bulletproof and a beast.

B) Too right, at least based on all the cases I have read about in medical journals, seen on reality TV, and seen on youtube videos.

C) Based on your description, that was clearly a Brown Recluse bite- their venom is noted for killing the surrounding and underlying tissue and leaving a black weeping ulcer.

D) Not only did they send me a mismatched pair of leg guards by having one each of adult and youth sizes, they also sent two of the same leg-either right or left, I couldn't tell.

On the other hand, I buy a lot of name brand (not grey market either) items from them and they have had very good prices on them- usually becaude they are the prior year's models.

Their house brand "Guide Gear" is pretty spotty for quality, and even for the name brands, you have to be careful, because they do get and sell a lot of factory seconds, and they can range from great deals (Irontown Carpenter Pants, which are relabeled E Schmitt or Walls brand, which are otherwise indistinguishable from nonseconds- no visible flaws) to horrible- (many of which I have returned over decades of buying (and then apparently blocked from memory, as I can't think of a specific one now)).
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #40  
Grew up in South Texas kill my share of Western Diamondbacks. I'd say 75% of people I know were bitten on the arm/hand while reaching for something. Nobody wore anything other than jeans and boots (too hot) and a .410. (Don't mean that's the "right" way)
 

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