Comparison LS ranked best tractor supplier.

[atsah]

The TC series to my knowledge were made by Shibaura.
Some of the later model Boomer series were made by LS.

The ones we bought were in 2007, I thought NH made the boomers, that's what they were. Maybe LS did IDK, either way they didn't perform well. IMO, NH makes very good haying equipment but they should have left tractor making to Deere, Massey and Kubota..

 

[rgr33]

I was a bit nervous about buying my LS in 2012, as they were nearly unknown in this area at the time. It turned out to be a good decision. Now there are four dealers within an hours drive.

I plan to bring in another tractor in the 40 hp range in the next year or two. The g3033h has been bullet proof, and makes a strong case for another LS. Went to the local ag show last week, and was very impressed with the comfort and features of both the LS and the Kioti, both have good dealers with good track records. Both get very good reviews from owners on this site.

On a side note, was very disappointed to learn the Massey Fergusons in the models I looked at needed regen every four hours, compared to 50 hours on the LS. That means it would need regen at least twice a day, as we often work long days in the summer.

 

[atsah]

I was a bit nervous about buying my LS in 2012, as they were nearly unknown in this area at the time. It turned out to be a good decision. Now there are four dealers within an hours drive.

I plan to bring in another tractor in the 40 hp range in the next year or two. The g3033h has been bullet proof, and makes a strong case for another LS. Went to the local ag show last week, and was very impressed with the comfort and features of both the LS and the Kioti, both have good dealers with good track records. Both get very good reviews from owners on this site.

On a side note, was very disappointed to learn the Massey Fergusons in the models I looked at needed regen every four hours, compared to 50 hours on the LS. That means it would need regen at least twice a day, as we often work long days in the summer.

I haven't looked at a LS ever, maybe they are completely different than the NH.. If people are happy with them they must have done something to change them. In the 2006-2011 time frame we lost three dealers because of customer disappointment.

 

[jaydee325]

I haven't looked at a LS ever, maybe they are completely different than the NH.. If people are happy with them they must have done something to change them. In the 2006-2011 time frame we lost three dealers because of customer disappointment.

Per the lstractorusa.com website, LS USA was not created until 2009. Prior to that, they manufactured tractors for other entities. So what brand dealers are you referencing?

 

[DK35vince]

Per the lstractorusa.com website, LS USA was not created until 2009. Prior to that, they manufactured tractors for other entities.

And I think its was 2012 or 2013 before LS began supplying some models for New Holland

 

[atsah]

Per the lstractorusa.com website, LS USA was not created until 2009. Prior to that, they manufactured tractors for other entities. So what brand dealers are you referencing?

NH dealers.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Where are you getting those numbers?
How current are they ?
I'd like to see it. Can you supply a link.

No one has a link as its not public info. Some years ago Kubota publicly acknowledged at a national meeting they had crossed 50%. The way the AEM works (where this data comes from) is that no one knows the shares of other brands, but you do know your own. Some conjecture of what dealers see floating around kinda fills in the gaps, and whats fairly well known continues to put Kubota @ 50%, Deere around 25%, Mahindra around 8-10% and the remainder combined picking up the last 10-15% of the market. Give or take a few points obviously. You won't find it reported by any news outlet or study. Thats basically tractors between 20-75Hp. Obviously Kubota's dominance is at the bottom of the range and it would start to skew more Deere\CNH\Agco as you go higher.

 

[lilranch2001]

I know that you are a well respected dealer on this forum, and I know I will get blasted for the following statement.

I'm sorry, but that statement seems somewhat self serving.
You are going to say that Kioti, LS, and all of the other brands are doing 1/3 the business of Kubota??

Sorry, that makes very little sense to me

 

[Juiced06GTO]

I can see those numbers being real. I work for a company that is tops in our industry and when you roll up our three largest competitors they are still not as big as us and we just purchased the number 11 company in our industry to further push us away from the pack.

 

[Spencer C]

I know that you are a well respected dealer on this forum, and I know I will get blasted for the following statement.

I'm sorry, but that statement seems somewhat self serving.
You are going to say that Kioti, LS, and all of the other brands are doing 1/3 the business of Kubota??

Sorry, that makes very little sense to me

I don't post often, but want to back up Neil on this. I own 3 Kubota dealerships, and can absolutely confirm these market share numbers. In the "under 100 PTO horsepower" categories, Kubota typically does more business than all other brands combined in the U.S. No dealer is going to post exact AEM numbers, because that's highly frowned upon.

The growth of Mahindra, LS, TYM etc. has been at the expense of New Holland mainly. Kubota, followed by Deere, are dominant in this category and are not losing market share. Those other brands make quality equipment and offer good value, but they aren't taking business from Kubota or Deere. And the the data provided to AEM by ALL manufacturers shows this. The real story is how New Holland is crumbling in the largest segment of the equipment industry. The good news is for the consumer....lots of great tractors,competition and options. It's hard to go wrong with many of these brands. Take care!