My shop build

[STx]

I am insulating it, the rolls are 6' wide. It's almost always windy here, especially since we're at the top of a hill. Usually, I like it but, right now I'm cussing it. Some of the framing members were a lite iffy in the wind, we had some days last week that were blowing 15 to 20 sustained. I'm.hiping to at least get enough of a break to do the side on the side of the prevailing wind and that doing that will give me enough of a wind break to get the rest done. Problem is, this time of year, the prevailing wind is either E/SE or N/NW...

 

[lt190b]

STx are your purlins punched or do you need to drill all your skin metal?

 

[STx]

STx are your purlins punched or do you need to drill all your skin metal?

I have to drill all my skin metal. I had to drill the base and rake angle as well.

 

[lt190b]

That's a lot of drilling. I worked on some buildings years ago that were all pre drilled. All we had to do was punch the hole thru the skin and then put in a rivet. I was going to try and explain a tool we used for locating the holes, but I cant find a picture or the name of it. It was a long time ago.

 

[STx]

That's a lot of drilling. I worked on some buildings years ago that were all pre drilled. All we had to do was punch the hole thru the skin and then put in a rivet. I was going to try and explain a tool we used for locating the holes, but I cant find a picture or the name of it. It was a long time ago.

It's not too bad, actually. I make a template sheet and then clamp 15 together using the template to drill them all at once. The side walls only have 30 panels total so, that was 2 drillings. The end walls will take a little more just because they're not all.the same length.

I would like rivets though, I'm getting tired of self drilling actress through support structure already and I haven't done much yet.

 

[kenmac]

very nice building. I have one I'll have built B-4 long. I don't have any help here. If you don't mind me asking,How big is the bldg, and your estimated cost for concrete and building ?

 

[STx]

very nice building. I have one I'll have built B-4 long. I don't have any help here. If you don't mind me asking,How big is the bldg, and your estimated cost for concrete and building ?

40x50x16

Slab was about $15k, all in. $9800 of that was concrete, I used 4,000 PSI, went about 7" and used 89 yards.

Building was about $15,700 with delivery and tax. This is rated for 100MPH sustained winds and includes insulation.

Insulated roll up doors with an electric opener were another $3200.

It could be done for less, I added some things that increased the costs. I plan to install A/C in the future and will be putting in a vehicle lift and possibly getting a CNC mill or some other heavy machinery so I built for that.

Electrical and lights is another $1300 and I'll probably spend $3000 or so on interior buildout of an office and bathroom.

 

[kenmac]

very nice size building & not a bad price either, but it's a lot of work for one or two people to put together. It would take me for ever ! lol

 

[lilranch2001]

Having a cooperating " partner" is key to success in a project like this
My ex and I did not work well together....
I guess thus the "ex"

 

[ovrszd]

40x50x16

Slab was about $15k, all in. $9800 of that was concrete, I used 4,000 PSI, went about 7" and used 89 yards.

Building was about $15,700 with delivery and tax. This is rated for 100MPH sustained winds and includes insulation.

Insulated roll up doors with an electric opener were another $3200.

It could be done for less, I added some things that increased the costs. I plan to install A/C in the future and will be putting in a vehicle lift and possibly getting a CNC mill or some other heavy machinery so I built for that.

Electrical and lights is another $1300 and I'll probably spend $3000 or so on interior buildout of an office and bathroom.

Very realistic offering of costs involved STx. People that have never built a building think the cost of the building itself is all of it. There is sooooo much more involved if you plan to have a productive shop. I'll also add, which you already know, pour a good floor!!! Not a minimal floor....

My 42x50x10 cost me $42,500. Bathroom. No AC. Heated. Well lit and wired with multiple 220V outlets on three sides. Six large windows, walk-in door, three 10x12 insulated roll up doors.

Thanks for starting this thread. I enjoy watching your progress. Looking forward to more updates!!!

 

[STx]

The little things you don't plan for add up. I had dirt on site to build the pad but, if I'd had to buy it, that would have added $4700 (I used 400 yards). I still need to level out around the pad and put in some asphalt millings. Having electric connected by the co-op is another $1900 for the transformer and wire with me providing the conduit, meter can and grounding rod and burying it all.

I've always been told that with metal buildings, you should figure 1/3 for foundation, 1/3 for the building and 1/3 for erection and build out. If I was hiring someone to do the erection and build out, that would be pretty much spot on.

 

[ovrszd]

I've always been told that with metal buildings, you should figure 1/3 for foundation, 1/3 for the building and 1/3 for erection and build out. If I was hiring someone to do the erection and build out, that would be pretty much spot on.

Yep. I leveled the pad and poured piers where my beams sit. Then hired the floor poured. Then completed the rest myself.

I'm not a concrete guy and don't want to be one so I gladly paid that labor bill.

 

[STx]

There is a definite learning curve with the insulation and panel installation. We got almost one full sidewall done yesterday and if I were to tell you I'm sore this morning, that would be the understatement of the decade. Have to work through it though, even the light breeze we had yesterday could be a problem at times and winds are supposed to pick up again tomorrow. We're getting the NW sides (I have my building angled to take advantage of the prevailing SE summer wind) done first since the wind is forecast to be N/NW, the hope being that those sides will block the wind well enough for us to finish the rest.

We started on the SE side yesterday morning but, you can see in the first pic that the wind was against us so we muscled those first 2 panels in on that side and moved over to the NW side.

Turns out "Safety Dog" did me a favor on the man lift, I don't think we could get the siding done without it.

 

[ovrszd]

To those having never done this type of construction, the slightest breeze becomes troublesome. A wind such at STx was working in doubles the physical efforts. Sore muscles will prevail until this part of the project is completed.....

 

[two_bit_score]

To those having never done this type of construction, the slightest breeze becomes troublesome. A wind such at STx was working in doubles the physical efforts. Sore muscles will prevail until this part of the project is completed.....

The wind has been bad. I was glad I have an 8' bed on my truck when I was loading a couple sheets of plywood the other day in the wind.

I can just imagine the problems he is having with that sheet metal.

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[ovrszd]

The wind has been bad. I was glad I have an 8' bed on my truck when I was loading a couple sheets of plywood the other day in the wind.

I can just imagine the problems he is having with that sheet metal.

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It's been a windy Winter up here. Large swings in direction and speed.

 

[STx]

Yesterday, it was only blowing 5 to 7, today is forecast as 7 to 11 and it's already windier than yesterday. Tomorrow, winds are supposed to turn from NW to NE and crank back into double digits. All we can do is move with the wind so it's blowing the sheets onto the building. The bigger problem is keeping the insulation in place at the bottom. Double sided tape is helping but, it'll come off that sometimes.

It's an adventure. At least when it's done, I can say I did it myself and be proud of the effort I know went into it.

I'm actually looking forward to getting to the roof where I can lay the sheets flat.

 

[hawkeye08]

I'm glad to have shop I have, but when I see a nice steel structure going up, I regret that I did not opt for that over the wood that I have. Stay safe.

 

[ovrszd]

Yesterday, it was only blowing 5 to 7, today is forecast as 7 to 11 and it's already windier than yesterday. Tomorrow, winds are supposed to turn from NW to NE and crank back into double digits. All we can do is move with the wind so it's blowing the sheets onto the building. The bigger problem is keeping the insulation in place at the bottom. Double sided tape is helping but, it'll come off that sometimes.

It's an adventure. At least when it's done, I can say I did it myself and be proud of the effort I know went into it.

I'm actually looking forward to getting to the roof where I can lay the sheets flat.

My building has two rollups on South end. One window on North end. Day we roofed we had 5-10mph wind out of the South. Had trouble with it lifting the insulation. Luckily for me there were 6 of us working on it.

You should be very proud of what you are doing. Good for a man's Soul.

 

[ovrszd]

I'm glad to have shop I have, but when I see a nice steel structure going up, I regret that I did not opt for that over the wood that I have. Stay safe.

My previous wood shop burned. So I was very paranoid when I rebuilt using steel. I also kept my wall height down to 10' but installed a drive-on hoist. The "vaulted" ceiling allowed me that option.