Robotic Following Cart to Replace Light Duty Tractor Tasks?

   / Robotic Following Cart to Replace Light Duty Tractor Tasks? #101  
Lots of competition in the field too. Saw this on YouTube today:

 
   / Robotic Following Cart to Replace Light Duty Tractor Tasks? #102  
Yeah, Boston Dynamics has some neat videos on Youtube.

They call that one the nighmare inducing robot....
 
   / Robotic Following Cart to Replace Light Duty Tractor Tasks? #103  
Yeah, Boston Dynamics has some neat videos on Youtube.

They call that one the nighmare inducing robot....
I remember seeing the video of their "Big Dog" when it first came out, that is an interesting machine:

Aaron Z
 
   / Robotic Following Cart to Replace Light Duty Tractor Tasks? #104  
I have to admit, you seem determined to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

Material handling is one of the main areas in agriculture that's pretty well handled. For your machine to be viable you'd need to drastically cut the price or up the payload. You've built an automated wheelbarrow. Novel, but the ag market is mostly made up of people who expect their equipment to both last and be durable enough to survive a bit of abuse. What's the expected maintenance cycle? What happens when it gets overloaded?(Because it will get overloaded. Farmers can't stand not filling boxes) What's your safety margin? What's your profit margin?(If you plan on selling these for 4500 your input costs, including labor, should be about 2250) How top heavy is it? How rough of terrain can it handle? How many can you produce in a week with current resources? How easy are spare parts to come across?

Take the new prototype into Little's JD and talk to their sales and service staff.
 
   / Robotic Following Cart to Replace Light Duty Tractor Tasks?
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#105  
I have to admit, you seem determined to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

Material handling is one of the main areas in agriculture that's pretty well handled. For your machine to be viable you'd need to drastically cut the price or up the payload. You've built an automated wheelbarrow. Novel, but the ag market is mostly made up of people who expect their equipment to both last and be durable enough to survive a bit of abuse. What's the expected maintenance cycle? What happens when it gets overloaded?(Because it will get overloaded. Farmers can't stand not filling boxes) What's your safety margin? What's your profit margin?(If you plan on selling these for 4500 your input costs, including labor, should be about 2250) How top heavy is it? How rough of terrain can it handle? How many can you produce in a week with current resources? How easy are spare parts to come across?

Take the new prototype into Little's JD and talk to their sales and service staff.

Good point - we will swing by Little's soon to speak with them. Believe they cater more towards the landscaping/lawn care segments rather than the AG space. Do you think there could be a market in landscaping?

Re: Material handling being well handled, is that always the case? It seems like there are still a lot of people walking around with buckets, bins, carts, wheelbarrows, etc. on farms to shuttle things back and forth from one point to another right? What if those people had a cart that did the shuttling, and they could just work at the pick point? Could that have value in some applications? We look at an industry like table grapes, where it appears that about 15-20% of the labor in picking is shuttling picked produce from pick point to collection point. If Burro worked there at least, it would have value we believe, and there are over 120K acres in the US and a crop worth something like $1.8B. Off base?

Re: expectations, it seems like much of your point is that our machine will be too expensive, too fragile, not carry enough, not be able to cross rough terrain, and that AGR will be unable to produce it or service/support it. On the cost portion (the other points seem very solve-able) would you pay 3-4K for something like this though? That particular machine has a 750 pound payload, but requires an operator and can't shuttle itself back and forth.

Does something that shuttles payloads back in forth at least sounds like a handy thing for some applications where you have to pick something, shuttle it back somewhere, and then come back to keep picking? Sounds like your answer is no.
 
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   / Robotic Following Cart to Replace Light Duty Tractor Tasks? #106  
Don't listen to naysayers. Saying "what is available is good enough" isn't how progress is made. Availability of options and competition is what business and free market is all about. Continue your refinements and the learning process that comes with it. You'll find the niche it fits and could easily do well.
 
   / Robotic Following Cart to Replace Light Duty Tractor Tasks? #107  
Too bad we can't just keep such technology to ourselves and let much of the rest of the world (that incidentally want us dead) freeze in the dark! It's kind of interesting to note, that much of todays technology won't do anyone any good without support and updates.
 
   / Robotic Following Cart to Replace Light Duty Tractor Tasks? #108  
Don't listen to naysayers. Saying "what is available is good enough" isn't how progress is made. Availability of options and competition is what business and free market is all about. Continue your refinements and the learning process that comes with it. You'll find the niche it fits and could easily do well.

:thumbsup:

negative comments from knowledgeable folks can be even more helpful
autonomous activity, some form of artificial intelligence, some nifty capability no one has thought of yet.
I personally find this fascinating, though I can't help the OP.
 
   / Robotic Following Cart to Replace Light Duty Tractor Tasks? #109  
I wonder if they use 93 octane in this thing....

 
   / Robotic Following Cart to Replace Light Duty Tractor Tasks? #110  
This one is pretty impressive...

Just be sure to watch it until the "blooper" at the very end...

 

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