Handgun for arthritis

[Sigarms]

This here shows how foolish you are.

You should use the right tool for the job. Every tool can become a hammer, and every screw driver a pry bar, but you would be better suited choosing the right tool for the job.

A gun is a tool designed to kill. In close proximity, a .22LR in a compact handgun is the perfect tool.

Do I carry a 22LR for defensive purposes? No. However, I'm not going to go around quoting Chris Kyle on a rifle caliber when the topic is handguns, nor am I going to criticize someone's caliber choice for a defensive round

Per the Miami shootout, it was a total cluster storm where the Feds felt they needed a scapegoat. Caliber choice became that scapegoat. They felt they couldn't handle the 10MM, so they cut it down to a .40 and then everyone marketed it to the civilian scene. From my understanding, more and more LEO's are switching back to the 9MM from the .40. A quick look two minutes ago found this...

FBI returns to 9mm rounds, once shunned as ineffective - The Washington Post

Dude, honestly, I'm not certain why you're getting your panties in a wad over this subject.

 

[Soundguy]

I am not familsrbwith25acp. who likes 22lr, because he doesn't want to admit his wife is under gunned because she is scared, or you are, is bs.

You are making assumptions with no basis other than speculation.

22lr has it's uses. I like it as a concept. I don't carry a 22lr as my carry gun, primary or backup. My wife does not carry 22lr as a primary gun, but does have a small NAA 22lr as a backup because it fits in her change purse. I prefer larger calibers because shooting more than once is wasting ammo.

.....I hope he doesn't have a heavy coat on.

Heavy coat will protect the perp from 25acp, not from 22lr.

I am not familsrbwith25acp

As you stated.. and I agree with... you are not familiar with 25acp.

 

[Soundguy]

This here shows how foolish you are.

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That's right.. just start insulting all the thread participants that don't agree with you. ;0

 

[Soundguy]

Dude, honestly, I'm not certain why you're getting your panties in a wad over this subject.

Come on.. he says he hand loads.. but is not familiar with 25 acp ???

It's data is in the same manual as whatever other cartridge he is reloading.. it's just way towards the front / shallow side of the pool.

I reload as well. Plenty of us here do I bet. I cast too. Convert brass to different cartridge calibers, etc. fun hobby.

22lr is one of those rounds that's big for being little, and if there weren't other better options around, it would be a good option. After the aopcalypse, IMHO.. at least for a few years anyway.. 22lr will be king. you can carry 1000 rounds of it in same or less weight of 100 intermediate cartridges, or 40 rifle cartridges. It takes small to medium game, and in a pinch, it will take 2 legged game... who wants to get shot when there are no hospitals around.

I also look at practicality.

25 acp suffers even more here. 22lr will do everything 25acp does, better, cheaper, faster.

unit price wise, 22lr is cheaper than 25acp. Size wise, the 25acp is real close to 22lr, weight is close, in bulk you will notice a difference.

i don't think I have ever seen 25acp reccomended for survival situations. I don't recal AR-7's chambered in 25acp... but they were in 22lr

Sure 25acp is reloadable... but with about 35$ in tools.. so is 22lr if you are desperate enough to do so.

22lr have other good uses... drawing out their spend cases to make HP jackets for .224 caliber projectiles, again, with a specialty die set.

am I a 22lr fan? not really.. but will be when the zombies show up. I'm more of a 357 fan. Likes me some pythons.

 

[Soundguy]

Here are a couple of points to ponder. In general larger, heavier handguns have less recoil for a given caliber. That is just common physics, and on top of that since they have full size grips they are easier for stiff fingers to grasp, and overall are easier to shoot and hit with. Now let's take some examples.

I like 38 in a 357 for introducing people to wheelguns. heavier gun ( usually ), absorbs that recoil.. When needed, you can upscale your firepower to 38+P, or 357mag.

Thus you can actually digest 3 different ammo types... that a bonus by itself.

for people that have a hard time with trigger pull, go single action. ( and stay away from glocks )

 

[Zerk]

OP here.

Wow, my original post sure generated a lot of replies. I hope some of them help others with similar problems. Clerks in gun shops say they see a lot of people with similar problems. A gal working at one shop says she use to shoot competitively but can't handle 1911 any more because the recoil from thousands of rounds has damaged her wrist.

A little clarification.
For those who say to see a doctor, it's osteoarthritis, not RA. Stomach can't tolerate NSAIDs. Hand specialist says he can't do anything for me. Best treatment has come from a physical therapist. Been doing hand exercises which help a little.

Have looked a lot of guns in various shops. So far, the S&W Victory (.22LR) comes closest to something I can handle, but it's only a .22. I plan to go to the next gun show which ought to have many times more guns than the gun shops around here.

One thing I really like about my Blackhawk is the balance, that forward center of gravity really helps to keep the front sight steady. Haven't seen any new guns that good in that department. If I were to (or could) take up target shooting, I think I would use that old gun.

Have you tried topical nsaid? Like Voltaren gel. Also different meds. For me celobrix is not hard on stomach. I take every day. With meals obviously.

 

[Zerk]

OP here.

Wow, my original post sure generated a lot of replies. I hope some of them help others with similar problems. Clerks in gun shops say they see a lot of people with similar problems. A gal working at one shop says she use to shoot competitively but can't handle 1911 any more because the recoil from thousands of rounds has damaged her wrist.

A little clarification.
For those who say to see a doctor, it's osteoarthritis, not RA. Stomach can't tolerate NSAIDs. Hand specialist says he can't do anything for me. Best treatment has come from a physical therapist. Been doing hand exercises which help a little.

Have looked a lot of guns in various shops. So far, the S&W Victory (.22LR) comes closest to something I can handle, but it's only a .22. I plan to go to the next gun show which ought to have many times more guns than the gun shops around here.

One thing I really like about my Blackhawk is the balance, that forward center of gravity really helps to keep the front sight steady. Haven't seen any new guns that good in that department. If I were to (or could) take up target shooting, I think I would use that old gun.

A gun is a tool designed to kill. In close proximity, a .22LR in a compact handgun is the perfect tool.

Do I carry a 22LR for defensive purposes? No. However, I'm not going to go around quoting Chris Kyle on a rifle caliber when the topic is handguns, nor am I going to criticize someone's caliber choice for a defensive round

Per the Miami shootout, it was a total cluster storm where the Feds felt they needed a scapegoat. Caliber choice became that scapegoat. They felt they couldn't handle the 10MM, so they cut it down to a .40 and then everyone marketed it to the civilian scene. From my understanding, more and more LEO's are switching back to the 9MM from the .40. A quick look two minutes ago found this...

FBI returns to 9mm rounds, once shunned as ineffective - The Washington Post

Dude, honestly, I'm not certain why you're getting your panties in a wad over this subject.

I never wanted a 25 acp either. You brought it up.

Also I said use the right tool for the job. Never said 22 was not a bad tool.

The reason my panties are in a bunch, is cause I 100% disagree with on everything. I also think you can't read and comprehend, or you just want to be a know it all jerk, and twist things.

 

[Zerk]

FBI returns to 9mm rounds, once shunned as ineffective - The Washington Post

bject.

did you read the article, or just the headline?


First the 9mm they are returning to, is not the 9mm they had then. Ballistic improvements. Just a 38 is not the 38 of over 100 years ago that failed in the Spanish American war. We have different bullet types and more velocity. All the .357 is, is a 1/8 bigger 38, so you can chamber modern loads in old guns. Many guns now are labeled +P. Same with 44 mag and 44 special. Elmer was loaded up 44s and 38s, but the gun industry was afraid people would put modern ammo in old black powder guns and other old stuff. While we do have a more sue happy society, with +P ratings, I wonder if they would have bother making magnum loads. 45 colt they never did.

2nd the guy was fatally shot, multiple times, but did not die until he kept on fighting. This is enough reason to advocate more knock down power.

People using 22lr for killing animals, are not in a life and death struggle. Most animals will run, and die somewhere, if not on the spot. A bad guy may or may do that, one loaded on drugs and crazy, is less likely to do that. Hunters with 22s are not shooting big animals in the spur of the moment. They are using a calm well placed shot, or they are shooting in a trap to save fur.

Sure lots of poachers take deer out of season with 22. But it is not a legal round to use during hunting season. If the deer runs off wounded, they are probably not going after it, sadly. You want a big debate just take about neck shots with deer hunters, which are easier then head shots. I personally take neck shots. But I fired over 200 rounds of 30-06 last fall practicing. Most guns 2-4, if that.


I have been wanting the NAA revolver, though I would rather have 22 mag. I believe a little gun is better then nothing.

 

[Zerk]

I like 38 in a 357 for introducing people to wheelguns. heavier gun ( usually ), absorbs that recoil.. When needed, you can upscale your firepower to 38+P, or 357mag.
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100% agree. GF was scared of big guns, until I let her shoot my Blackhawk with 38s. She loved it. Wants to get rid of the 22 Taurus that has jammed a couple times. So brands better then others. But don't have to worry with a 38.

 

[dragoneggs]

I like 38 in a 357 for introducing people to wheelguns. heavier gun ( usually ), absorbs that recoil.. When needed, you can upscale your firepower to 38+P, or 357mag.

Thus you can actually digest 3 different ammo types... that a bonus by itself.

for people that have a hard time with trigger pull, go single action. ( and stay away from glocks )

All very good points and advice!